Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

torggzorz

All your Vape are belong to us
I have been using my SR-71 at 6.6v on the core, it seems to be the setting where I can hold the button down continuously without pulsing, while getting maximum flavor/vapor potential with just a few seconds draw.... just deliciously medicating. Gary you are a gentleman and a scholar!
 

Fredster951

Well-Known Member
What voltage do you guys usually set the core at when using the herc w/ the 7.4 rod? I'm really diggin 6.6 - 6.7, but I'm curious what others like. I apologize if I've asked this before, but this nug run shatter won't let me pay attention long enough to search for it.
6.8v here on a SR71 white rod. You can ride that button until lungs explode with tasty shatter vapor!
 

AntKiller

Well-Known Member
I just received the SR-71 and 2 18350 batteries - I am about to stack them in the 8 and I am placing the fuse at the base of the stack - want to be sure this is the correct configuration. I also purchased a black rod with the 71 and tried it first and could not get it to fire. I get a reading of 1 ohm on the black rod and 1.7 on the white one. Plan to research more later - slightly baked from the Okeanos. I really enjoy the 8/Ok combo and I also pair it with the Kanger SUBTANK clearomizer for my liquid. This thing R-O-C-K-S !
 
AntKiller,

mixchu69

Well-Known Member
Thanks guys. I got to use the core with my hercules sr 74 x. I have only been messing with the 7.4. The consensus seems to be mid to high 6s?
 

invisiblefriend

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
  1. I keep at 7.4 with sr74 -- the sr71 i feel dials down to 6 better IMO


Happy holidays



I am dealing with some issues too -- I been having problems with my v3 silver top -- deasd -- and the core and the hammer recently -- but its always ok -- cause I love W9 so much -- I have spent so much 4 my medicinal reasons!

I just hope after 3 months I can finally come with a resolution and hopefully quick -- I just don't want to but I may have to get some other crap to hold me over till i get return --

i just hope they cash turn around fast --- I'm gunnas pay overnight return to help ! :)


@sethhobrin
(I Received the new V4 top yesterday. It is incredible and allows my SR-71s to function perfectly now. All I would get with the V3 tops was blinking lights and not firing. I just wish the two new Persei's I purchased a month ago came with the V4 and not defective V3 tops that would not function with the multiple SR-71s I purchased with them.

W9tech wanted me to purchase 2 hammer tops and wait to get replacements for the V4 tops for another month and half because I have silver persei's. I didn't want to go this route for multiple reasons so they agreed to allow me upgrade to the V4 tops. It cost me $25 bucks. Kind of silly to have to pay $25 bucks to get replacement tops that would function on two brand new persei's. Not exactly thrilled over that but it is what it is I guess.

I use my persei's for medical reasons so I did not want to be without at least one of them. It barely worked but I could get it to fire if I tried about ten times to find a sweet spot by screwing it and unscrewing it over and over. Now I just have to get the ball rolling on exchanging the other one as well. I am sure they are going to charge me another $25 for a 2nd V4 top. ($10 for warranty upgrade, $6 for return shipping, $2 for handling, and $6 to ship the V3 top back to them which I must do first).

Kind of sad to see that i am treated this way after having an extensive order history of close to $1000 with W9TECH directly including omicron, at least 10 TI Kiss carts and accessories, 2 Persei's, 2 SR-71s, and a bunch of spare parts and supplies. At least I have a functioning top now.

Those of you waiting on V4 tops to replace V3 tops that won't fire consistently won't be disappointed by the V4 top.))))))))##



why when it rains it pours n all happens at once at the most important times :)


much luv n respect to @THC SCIENTIFIC and the entire w9 crew thk u 4 the products !

bless


happy holidays friends
 
Last edited:
invisiblefriend,
  • Like
Reactions: Skeena

bdmonkeyj3w

Well-Known Member
guys.... i just got my xmas bag from w9, and there are gonna be alot of happy people thanks to g and w9! Extra heaters with the globes, and a rod with the hammer top! Idk if there are any other surprises lurking, the omicron and other parts are going as gifts, but i cant thank W9TECH.COM enough for fast shipping and awesomeness!

The hammer top was my gift to my herc this year and incredibly stoked that there was a ceramic rod in there, but not sure how to use it... 7.4v or what?
https://imageshack.com/i/eyXkJeh4j
 

bdmonkeyj3w

Well-Known Member
no no, i get that part... but 7.4 volts? keep button on for ? can i use two 18350s? are they gonna last more than a couple dabs?

edit: SHIT. Now i need a core....
 
bdmonkeyj3w,

Big Baby Jesus

The momentum is finally on our side. Carpe diem!
7.4 I'm almost positive. Believe hammer top stays on until you press button again, so it's supposed to be on while you're dabbin. You can use all their attachments with batteries or core, but I've no idea how long they'll last with that attachment. Sounds like you have to have a battery draining session immediately to test it out :spliff:

On a side note, noticed the core is on sale yesterday.
 
Big Baby Jesus,

mixchu69

Well-Known Member
I just used my hercules 74x and fell in love. Put about 1/2 gram shatter in, gave a few second pulses, and saw vapor coming out. Quickly put on the mouthpiece and got a few smooth hits. Didn't want to get too baked so haven't held down the button yet. I def will this evening. But I can see what all the good posts were about. Appreciate everyone's input.
 

Cheerful Dub

Spaced Station
yeah that lines up with exactly what i've observed. 1.5ohms cool and about 2.2 when hot.
the mod i'm ordering DOES push 12v so i'm not too worried about that. i'll be pushing the thing to the limit but i wouldn't try if i thought i was gonna fry something....

unless it's hooked up to water filtration i usually only run the herc between 5v and 6.5v.
the herc doesn't NEED that much power. 20-30watts is a great amount of vapor with nice flavor preservation.
Let me know what you end up going with. I am getting into sub-ohm builds on my RDA/RTAs and am going to be upgrading to a box mod very soon. With the level of technology available these days there is literally no reason to not run my SR-71 with a 601/510 adapter off the same box. As long as it can run 7.4V and push the required wattage it should be completely fine. I was considering a Sigelei 100W+ box mod as they run 7.4v max output and can run an atomizer from 0.15-3 ohm.
 
Cheerful Dub,

dilvish

in hypno-vision
halp
i am new to the w9 tech life and only have an omicron. is it compatible with the hercules with the black rod in it?

edit: nevermind, wrong thread. reallyhighguy.jpeg
 
Last edited:
dilvish,

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
I believe the ceramic rod is used with the hammer to do dabs off of a nail. Take the hammer to the nail, get it?

no no, i get that part... but 7.4 volts? keep button on for ? can i use two 18350s? are they gonna last more than a couple dabs?

edit: SHIT. Now i need a core....
Hammer Top onto the CORE tube plus the Hammer Rod and the BENDER glass chamber. I haven't used my Bender for a month, but think it will see a Christmas eve session...

The Hammer rod is designed to be used around 7.4V. I use the CORE to heat it up at 8.4V initially, then turn it down. It kills batteries fast. I used it with 2x18650's, hated the size, tried 2x18500's before finally getting the Core. Now I can use it with the 18350 insert and I'm very happy.

Besides the Bender and the dabs method already talked about (which never worked well for me, seemed to waste a lot of oil, even as I tried to develop a technique to lift it into and out of the pool of liquid oil) you can use it as a soldering iron/heat wand to touch to herbs/flower in a bowl or pipe. Try having it on a high voltage and hovering it just above the flower as you inhale. Or use a lower voltage to touch to it (try tapping?) Honestly, been a while since I used the Hammer rod for anything other than heating the Bender.

Let me know what you end up going with. I am getting into sub-ohm builds on my RDA/RTAs and am going to be upgrading to a box mod very soon. With the level of technology available these days there is literally no reason to not run my SR-71 with a 601/510 adapter off the same box. As long as it can run 7.4V and push the required wattage it should be completely fine. I was considering a Sigelei 100W+ box mod as they run 7.4v max output and can run an atomizer from 0.15-3 ohm.
If you have a variable voltage capable thing; that will work better than variable wattage. Wattage referenced things are e-cigarettes designed for wire heaters. The Hercules has a ceramic heating rod which wants more linear voltage. So if you can tell your fancy box to give it 7.4V with whatever wattage it works out to be; that would work. Most boxes reference wattage so their use is slightly less than ideal. Do you have a favorite RDA unit? I have an 8 and still haven't bought any 510 threaded things yet. I would be interested to know what you have used and if you would recommend anything for vaping VG e juice?

However I think the SR-74 is really a powerhouse above 8 volts (fresh batteries start at 8.4V) so if you can give it 8.0-8.4V that would be super killer. My SR-71 rods work great at 6.6-7.0V on the Core for holding the button, depending on the concentrate and whether I'm using a 1.5 or 1.7 ohm heating rod; they work great with 8.4V fresh batteries too; but high voltage means a little technique and tapping to keep the oil flavorful and hits tasty.
 
Last edited:

Hashassin

the uniBHOmber
Let me know what you end up going with. I am getting into sub-ohm builds on my RDA/RTAs and am going to be upgrading to a box mod very soon. With the level of technology available these days there is literally no reason to not run my SR-71 with a 601/510 adapter off the same box. As long as it can run 7.4V and push the required wattage it should be completely fine. I was considering a Sigelei 100W+ box mod as they run 7.4v max output and can run an atomizer from 0.15-3 ohm.

actually if you take a good look at it the sigelei 100w mod runs on the yihi sx330 chip which is only rated to 6v output.i have the iris for my persei and i almost never run the 7.4v rod below 6.5v
never tried the 3.7v rod with the iris.

i don't want to derail the persei thread but if you wanna chat mods and whatnot feel free to PM me.
 
Hashassin,

Cheerful Dub

Spaced Station
If you have a variable voltage capable thing; that will work better than variable wattage. Wattage referenced things are e-cigarettes designed for wire heaters. The Hercules has a ceramic heating rod which wants more linear voltage. So if you can tell your fancy box to give it 7.4V with whatever wattage it works out to be; that would work. Most boxes reference wattage so their use is slightly less than ideal.
From what I understand operational Wattage range is simply derived from the Input Voltage x Atomizer Ohm resistance. Variable Wattage boxes just do the math the other way around, adjusting the volts as necessary to achieve the set wattage functionality. There are different ways of handling the stepping between settings and fractions of settings depending on the voltage or wattage setting and even depending on the chipset manufacturer, but they are basically controlling the same things at the end of the day.

Similarly, near as I can tell, the only new innovations to this market are present in the DNA-40 chipset which, when utilizing non-resistance wire for the atomizer build, can monitor the temperature of the wire itself and limit the voltage through constant checks so it never goes past a certain set temperature point, regardless of your chosen voltage or wattage settings. A sort of ceiling built into the loop, if you will.

As with all things I could be totally wrong, but all of this knowledge comes from my exposure to high end e-cigarette oriented devices.

I know of at least one other user who mentioned his intentions to run his SR-71 on a custom built wood enclosure dual 18650 box mod with a dna chipset but I don't remember following up on his experience. I should search and check. Hmmm. Thanks for the reminder.

Do you have a favorite RDA unit? I have an 8 and still haven't bought any 510 threaded things yet. I would be interested to know what you have used and if you would recommend anything for vaping VG e juice?
I really am in love with the Aqua V2. You can buy a clone of it for $20. As with any rebuildable, the quality and performance of the device is always up to the end user and how well they understand the mechanics of coiling, installing and properly wicking the device. That being said, you can set it up as a really sick dripper or as a really nice tank system, either way it is my favorite rebuildable atomizer and I have owned most of them or at least a clone at some point (ie genesis, kayfun, fogger/taifun, drippers etc)

However I think the SR-74 is really a powerhouse above 8 volts (fresh batteries start at 8.4V) so if you can give it 8.0-8.4V that would be super killer. My SR-71 rods work great at 6.6-7.0V on the Core for holding the button, depending on the concentrate and whether I'm using a 1.5 or 1.7 ohm heating rod; they work great with 8.4V fresh batteries too; but high voltage means a little technique and tapping to keep the oil flavorful and hits tasty.
This is interesting information, thank you. I only have an original SR-71 so I am basing my math on the reported statistics of its ohm reading of 1.5-2.2 and the 7.4v unregulated output of the dual 18350s in the original persei mod. But it is always good to know a little more voltage or wattage won't hurt things.

Quite similarly, even though I have no perceived need for going over 50 watts with any atomizer, the output statistics and overall quality of the chinese box mods leave much to be desired in this regard. This has been my main point of reticence in terms of retiring my persei, although I believe it is now reasonable given the models available.

The only thing that would make it perfect is if W9Tech made an bottom insulator that was 510 threaded instead of 601... the adapter looks so wonk, but I'll probably just order one and take the aesthetic hit, as it were... lol

actually if you take a good look at it the sigelei 100w mod runs on the yihi sx330 chip which is only rated to 6v output.i have the iris for my persei and i almost never run the 7.4v rod below 6.5v
never tried the 3.7v rod with the iris.

i don't want to derail the persei thread but if you wanna chat mods and whatnot feel free to PM me.
Hmm well thank you for this information, that is very important. I must have mis-read. I know you mentioned a 12V box mod with high wattage. Let me know what you end up with, I think we are in the same boat. Cheers :nod:
 
Cheerful Dub,

bdmonkeyj3w

Well-Known Member
Im gonna be done posting for the night, but just thought id share my experiments for the evening with surprise gear from w9. First off, the hammer rod, complete surprise. i only wanted the top, and it was fan-freaking-tastic. I just slowly brush the oil on to the rod over the domeless and bam, instant heaven. Second, i did something blasphemous: i put a 71 coil into an sr 74!!!! It works, and I had originally planned to cut it down, but as a whole piece the screw top squishes it in to place. Works perfect, definitely cleaner than my ratty old coil, but dunno if its the same metal. I had to be a little more patient to get it going, but i like the larger coil on my 3.7. I never got the 2 coils together to work right. My final dilemma comes from obtaining a kiss globe as well. That things insane. I had a ti kiss cart, but that got swooped. I feel like the globe hits insanely harder than the original kiss and kiss ti. I know my globe is for the ss tube and the v1 top for travel, but its hard not to pull it out to blast around at home.
One globe I gave is already being enjoyed for the holidays - my friend is leaving for the m.e. and i got tired of seeing him with a non w9 heater at least. Hes furious that hes not gonna see the hammer for the next 13 days but amazed at how good a layg cart can be. W9 has been nothing but awesome, and look forward to enjoying for a while!
 
Top Bottom