Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[kindbeats]

@THC SCIENTIFIC still no update on the Vaporizer? You said it would be updated on the site soon, i dont see it yet!

The Vaporizer is also called the Kiss Mini. It's supposed to be the smallest pen vape out. I could be wrong, but I believe they're already available for purchase in shops. http://www.w9tech.com/vaporizer-vape-pen-essential-oil/

 

[DieHard]

I've been having nothing but problems with my herc (sr74x) for the past week. Did complete cleanings several times. Now no oil is dripping in the second chamber, it seems the issue lies within the top chamber, with the coil. Its getting hot, but all that happens is the wax/oil melts. No vapor whatsoever. And the cart is getting hot. I take the cap off to see whats going on, and the oil is just bubbling. I made sure the coil was seated in the bottom and it was. I have no idea why this is happening. Any help would be much appreciated, or I might have to just put it in the drawer and stick to the kiss carts.

What kind of batteries are you using? If your batteries are not up to the task, you will not have enough power to achieve vapor. I have experienced this when my batteries are discharged. It can also happen if you have a poor connection somewhere. Look first at the spring loaded center pin and the spring pin on the insulated adaptor.

 

[lonelyhero]

It sounds like non AW batteries or possible fake aw's the stock 18350's I got with my persei worked exactly the same way but my aw's work great

 

[quader]

I've been having nothing but problems with my herc (sr74x) for the past week. Did complete cleanings several times. Now no oil is dripping in the second chamber, it seems the issue lies within the top chamber, with the coil. Its getting hot, but all that happens is the wax/oil melts. No vapor whatsoever. And the cart is getting hot. I take the cap off to see whats going on, and the oil is just bubbling. I made sure the coil was seated in the bottom and it was. I have no idea why this is happening. Any help would be much appreciated, or I might have to just put it in the drawer and stick to the kiss carts.

is your rod glowing red?

 

[Krazzykid]

Yeah solid pin connection. 7.4v. It's getting hot. As hot as normal. Using AW batteries.

What resistance are you getting once you fully assemble your herc? Measuring the resistance fully assembled is an essential part of using the herc.

If using a multimeter to measure the resistance don't forget to subtract the resistance of the leads.

 

[k3nd4l]

well todays the end of my month long tolerance break. got a gram each of 3 different strains of waxes. gonna break out my new sr74x at 3.7 w. one strain & my new kiss v3 7.4 w. one of the other strains when i get out of work later

One question.. how does the kiss work with shatter? i have one really hard shatter that snaps like glass. one that seems to be right between shatter and crumble. & one that is full crumble. (from left to right). i plan on using the one all the way on the right in the sr74x

 

[Skeena]

@chronickiller7 while I only have the sr71, I am able to produce clouds at 7.4v with non aw batteries(standard imr that came with the persei). Are you able to test the voltage?

 

[DaNi_DuB]

Yeah solid pin connection. 7.4v. It's getting hot. As hot as normal. Using AW batteries.

Do they have the AW sticker?

 

[chronickiller7]

I am using authentic AW batteries from w9 tech's website. Reads 2.2 and 2.3 ohms. It does glow red. I'll double check the pin. How do I check this without taking the two chambers apart?

 

[lonelyhero]

2.2-2.3 would be good the only things I can think of now are

1. Is your coil all the way down
2. Are you getting good airflow or is it restricted

I sometimes get small whispy hits if I inhale too fast you have to draw on it very slowly to get good thick hits

 

[chronickiller7]

2.2-2.3 would be good the only things I can think of now are

1. Is your coil all the way down
2. Are you getting good airflow or is it restricted

I sometimes get small whispy hits if I inhale too fast you have to draw on it very slowly to get good thick hits

Airflow is wide open. I'll try dragging slower. Coil is just about level with the top of the rod. Rod is a hair higher.

 

[SamuraiSam]

Have you tried putting the lower chamber directly on to the Persei (skipping the bottom adapter and black plastic shield)? Stick the mouthpiece on the top cap and see if that works.

Just trying to work through a process of elimination.

 

[Fredster951]

Airflow is wide open. I'll try dragging slower. Coil is just about level with the top of the rod. Rod is a hair higher.

Sounds like draw technique to me. Another possibility is not enough oil. Do you have enough buffer oil?

 

[chronickiller7]

Have you tried putting the lower chamber directly on to the Persei (skipping the bottom adapter and black plastic shield)? Stick the mouthpiece on the top cap and see if that works.

Just trying to work through a process of elimination.

I have used it without the insulating shield/cover, but not the bottom adapter. I thought you have to use the adapter to make a connection. Ill try that anyway.

Sounds like draw technique to me. Another possibility is not enough oil. Do you have enough buffer oil?

Tried messing with the draw. Did not help. I thought it was just low on oil. Added more. Slight vapor, but barely anything.


I will say that when I stop drawing, I hear a weird crackling sound. At this point, I might just try to get oil the oil out and just do another cleaning assembly, then throw a new coil in. Maybe a new ceramic rod, but I don't have a 7.4v laying around, just a 3.7v, so I may need to just wait til I order some, as 3.7v may not help. What do you guys think? For some reason, I think its the rod.

 

[SamuraiSam]

You should be able to press the button with the cap off and a loaded herc, and if you just watched it instead of hit it, it should produce visible vapor. If that's not happening with fully charged batteries, a coil that is seated firmly in the bottom of the chamber, then there has to be a fault or poor connection somewhere. You squished your coil so it doesn't slide up while you draw, right? If you don't have any wear on the contact points of the ceramic rod, and it's in the correct place, and producing heat, I don't think that is your culprit. You only have a 3.7V rod? You'll need to hold the button for quite some time before the 3.7 rod heats up and produces vapor. Make sure the button is staying lit the whole time you're preheating; you may need to let off for a quarter second and re-press to keep power to the Herc while warming up. The 3.7V rod will not put out as thick of vapor as the 7.4 rod in my experience.

 

[StickyShisha2]

I've been having nothing but problems with my herc (sr74x) for the past week. Did complete cleanings several times. Now no oil is dripping in the second chamber, it seems the issue lies within the top chamber, with the coil. Its getting hot, but all that happens is the wax/oil melts. No vapor whatsoever. And the cart is getting hot. I take the cap off to see whats going on, and the oil is just bubbling. I made sure the coil was seated in the bottom and it was. I have no idea why this is happening. Any help would be much appreciated, or I might have to just put it in the drawer and stick to the kiss carts.

to me it sounds like a power or resistance problem. Do you have an Ohm meter to check the entire herc with bottom adapter?

 

[SamuraiSam]

to me it sounds like a power or resistance problem. Do you have an Ohm meter to check the entire herc with bottom adapter?

He did get 2.2-2.3Ω. So that part sounds good; although I know a month or more ago, @Beanporn had a Herc that ohm'd out good, it had a bad bottom adapter.

 

[Beanporn]

This situation sounds exactly like mine. I changed out the bottom adapter and I was good to go. I have since replaced the spring loaded center pin as well. I have also been using the core rather than batteries and I think that alone was the biggest difference. I'd suggest not using the bottom adapter and using only fully charged batteries. If you can afford it, the core is essential to optimal herc performance.
Like everyone told me, don't give up. When you get it dialed in you will love the herc, it is truly a game changer.

A nice slow draw is also key to good performance. Be patient and keep trouble shooting, this forum is filled with helpful people that are happy to help. And if all else fails gary from W9 is about the most customer friendly business owner I've ever come across. Talk about standing behind your product and doing the right thing. Good luck

 

[chronickiller7]

Yeah great vibes here from just about everyone! Here is what my coil looks like right now. Should I throw some oil in and skip the bottom adapter? Does the coil look good?

 

[Beanporn]

Yeah the coil looks good. How much oil have you loaded? I loaded a good 1/2 gram to 3/4 gram before it really established a solid buffer.

 

[chronickiller7]

At this point, its empty. I would normally load .3, soak the coil, then add .2-.3, or what ever I want to vape that session. I will try it again without the bottom adapter now.

 

[SamuraiSam]

Personally I would recommend leaving the coil out and holding the button to see if the rod will get bright red after 15-20 second continuous press. If it does then put the coil in and load your oil. If it doesn't get bright red there's still an issue.

 

[lockie]

Those new AW batteries with the black stripes are awesome with the Hercules SR-71, lasts much longer at maintaining full power.

 

[chronickiller7]

Here's what the coil looks like now that it's saturated and loaded. I'm charging my batteries before I actually try it out. Should I hold or pulse the button?

 

[lockie]

You can never go wrong with pulsing.