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BrianTL

Westchester, NY
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Meanwhile i just saw Juul Mango flavour disposables at the local hardware store next to hammers and buckets of paint.... ,double rofl... I guess health has never been an concern in Eastern Europe ,bwabhah.

Shiiiit.... send some to the US. They'll go for big bucks here

No mango juul pods... but "blue razzberry" flavored "CIGARS" are cheaper than dog shit ... and everybody knows people only buy those and the other flavors for blunts.

I kinda miss my nicotine days sometimes. Smoked a pack (or more) of Marlboro's a day for quite some time... quit that, picked up Juul like a year after I quit ciggs which was a big mistake because I was instantly hooked to the juul. I guess the body never forgets nicotine. Was going through a "pod" or more of that daily, supposedly the equivalent of a pack of ciggs. First mango, they took that away, then mint, they took that away, then menthol.... they took that away

For the kids.
 

Tranquility

Well-Known Member
Nothing really new here other than date published:
U.S. postal rules make outlook bleak for small vape companies


Apparently, we'll never get banking:
How Long Before The Senate Approves The SAFE Banking Act?
Crapo went on to say he stands against the reform proposal. Yet he indicated that he might be more responsive if it incorporated specific stipulations viewed as untenable to the industry. This would include a two percent THC potency limit on products. The purpose of this limit is for cannabis businesses to qualify to access financial services. As well as preventing banking services for workers that sell high-potency vaping devices or edibles that could attract young kids.
 

Abysmal Vapor

Saturnine in my mind
Shiiiit.... send some to the US. They'll go for big bucks here
We should figure something out ,i can do with minimum profit and still feel like i am rich,medium wage around here is just 600$ a month :D :D :D
And what about that IQOS shit ? Worst of both worlds . Tobacco infused with e-juice, lol.. ,i wonder what will happen if some decided to light up one , second degree burns ?
 
Abysmal Vapor,

BrianTL

Westchester, NY
We should figure something out ,i can do with minimum profit and still feel like i am rich,medium wage around here is just 600$ a month :D :D :D
And what about that IQOS shit ? Worst of both worlds . Tobacco infused with e-juice, lol.. ,i wonder what will happen if some decided to light up one , second degree burns ?

Idk, as they say here, "Fuck around and find out." We can create a few shell corps to protect ourselves and label everything... idk, something catchy...

We shall call them NATHAN systems.

Nothing Actually Too Hazardous, Anti - Nicotine systems.

Sneak these mango bastards right past customs I bet.
 

Tranquility

Well-Known Member
While only tangently related, with menthol, it's not just "think of the children!" it's "think of the people of color who need us to save them".

US vows again to ban menthol flavor in cigarettes, cigars
The flavor’s persistence has infuriated anti-smoking advocates, who point to research that menthol’s numbing effect masks the harshness of smoking, likely making it easier to start and harder to quit.

The mint-flavored cigarettes are overwhelmingly used by young people and minorities, particularly Black smokers, 85% of whom smoke menthols. That compares to about a third of white smokers.

“The science is there, the data is there, so why are these products still on the market?” said Carol McGruder of the African American Tobacco Control Leadership Council.

If you read the rest of the article, the paternalism is patent. The people making the rules think we're idiots needing to be saved from all potential health risks.
 

hillbill

Well-Known Member
Menthol makes the smoke go down easier and deeper and probably makes it harder to quit. Menthol cigarettes were marketed as healthy and fresh when I was a kid. Obama cigarette tax pissed me off and I quit 11 years ago because of the high taxes , Thank God. Saved at least $20,000.00 since.

This is much different, denying a healthier alternative. This all started with trump’s hissy fit over a few deaths from pneumonia with the altered capsules. 600,000 dead from Corona Virus is no big deal though.

Hopefully this gets fixed soon, bought two Arizer Airs and an Edge for wife before shops stopped sending.

Also, got my vapes as well as seeds just before the latest mailbox thief bastard started their shit. Reported a theft to local post office and they said we were not alone as there were several last week. Last thief couple that did this a while back are serving time. Rural delivery area where each place has a mailbox on the road.

Will not order any seeds until these fucks are caught.
 

Gigsabits53

Well-Known Member
Also, got my vapes as well as seeds just before the latest mailbox thief bastard started their shit. Reported a theft to local post office and they said we were not alone as there were several last week. Last thief couple that did this a while back are serving time. Rural delivery area where each place has a mailbox on the road.

Will not order any seeds until these fucks are caught.
Sorry to hear about this. I get so angry when I hear these theft stories. I hope they are caught soon.
 
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Tranquility

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This is much different, denying a healthier alternative. This all started with trump’s hissy fit over a few deaths from pneumonia with the altered capsules. 600,000 dead from Corona Virus is no big deal though.
No, that's not why THIS happened. ENDS has been progressively more regulated over time. This goes all the way back to long before Trump. Back to the original tobacco settlement. But, all the people dying for no reason certainly motivated politicians from both sides of the aisle to consider things and vote on a law that is popular with most of the U.S. population.

Except here.

We can try to educate others as to how dry herb vapes should not be a part of ENDS both for logical and for practical reasons. But, try to find someone to put forward the legislation. Gaetz used to be a friend, but, he has problems going back a bit involving something else most of the U.S. population frowns upon, so won't be the guy. (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/a...z-probe-grew-sex-trafficking-medical-pot.html)

We need people from both parties to push forward an agenda. 1/2 plus one vote from a party in power only keeps things uncertain and not to our liking. Blaming Trump for this is just silly.
 

RobbIt

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I received this today from cannabis giant Greenlane. Talk about vertical integration ! They now provide shipping solutions to third party cannabis companies
GREENLANE PACT ACT SOLUTION
Dear Greenlane Customer,
As you may have already heard, Congress recently amended the Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking Act (PACT Act), placing restrictions upon the shipment of certain vaporizers referred to as Electronic Nicotine Delivery Systems, or ENDS. The vaporizers subject to these restrictions include some non-nicotine vaporizers, batteries, parts, and accessories. When the statute takes full effect in the near future, the US Postal Service will no longer deliver packages containing ENDS products. In response to these developments, FedEx, UPS, and DHL adopted or amended their policies to prohibit shipment of ENDS. We’re excited to share with you that Greenlane has launched an ENDS shipping solution for parcel shipping!
Greenlane’s ENDS shipping solution will cover more than 85% of the US and will deliver within 4–6 business days; we will continue to work with our partners to expand coverage and improve shipping times. ENDS orders will require an Adult Signature and are not eligible for any special services including express, overnight, 2nd day, COD, and pickup.
Although the increased regulatory burdens and prohibitions on using traditional carriers may lead to an increase in shipping costs for ENDS, Greenlane has created a sliding-scale freight cost recovery program that’s curated for your business needs to ensure we offer the lowest shipping rates possible. Freight/LTL orders will continue to ship as usual.
We’re thrilled to provide a solution that will continue to give customers access to the products they need in an economical, efficient, and compliant manner.
Thank you again for your loyalty and support!
 

Trackrat

Well-Known Member
While only tangently related, with menthol, it's not just "think of the children!" it's "think of the people of color who need us to save them".

US vows again to ban menthol flavor in cigarettes, cigars


If you read the rest of the article, the paternalism is patent. The people making the rules think we're idiots needing to be saved from all potential health risks.
Help me Mr. Government Man. I need to be saved . As I not capable, to think for myself .
 

Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
The banning of specific "flavored" stuff enrages me to no end.

I don't smoke anymore. Gave it up many years ago with the help of nicotine vaporizers, but this shit still pisses me off.

As if adults are not allowed to enjoy anything that tastes good. Fuck em.
 
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Abysmal Vapor

Saturnine in my mind
I heard something on the Troy and Jerry Think Dank on youtube that the ban has been postponed for the time being while they decide how to inforce this. They said it could take a year, maybe 2.
This is kind of old news already.(previous page :D ) I personally dont see it ever happening :)). That act is decades old and should be precised before they add anything to it.
 
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EliumVapor

Manufacturer
Manufacturer
Hopefully the postponing of the enforcement will give us all time to come together and convince them to change the wording to insure that we can all stay in business! Happy to hear we at least have time to figure things out. Much love to everyone in the industry and to all of the support from the community on this!
 

biohacker

GemStoned
Forgive my ignorance but I haven't been keeping up with this thing and curious if it's even possible for me to mail vape pens and cart batteries from Canada to USA anymore with CanPost/USPS? From my minimal research it appears that I can't, but I also see that it's not being enforced as of yet? Is this right?
 
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C No Ego

Well-Known Member
Forgive my ignorance but I haven't been keeping up with this thing and curious if it's even possible for me to mail vape pens and cart batteries from Canada to USA anymore with CanPost/USPS? From my minimal research it appears that I can't, but I also see that it's not being enforced as of yet? Is this right?
I think personal to personal is ok ,,, just not a business sending it to little kids with asthma ... save kids !
 
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