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The most important vaporization discussion we need to have. (Your Vape Mail)
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florduh
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What a lovely young lady. I like that despite her livelihood being threatened by this bullshit, she can speak on it for 20 minutes without ranting and raving. Can't say the same for myself. EightVape was my go-to when I was hooked on nicotine too.
I looked up this new shipping company. It doesn't look like it's much more expensive than FedEx or UPS. Here's part of their statement on vape shipping:
The Only National Shipping Carrier That Can Ship Vape Products – Reimagine Delivery
reimaginedelivery.com
Abysmal Vapor
Saturnine in my mind
Well what is happening is not right ,neither it is pleasant and for sure will have imPACT on the industry,but at least it will be decided on a state level ,also people will have delivery options and not gonna rely on physical shops. She mentioned that California wont tax the hardware ,only juices. I hope it works out just fine for everyone on your side of the pond ,if not you know who to NOT vote for on the next local elections,lol.
I posted about X a couple weeks ago. They seem very sketchy. I have reached out to them several times and gotten no response. Will let you know if they ever get back to me.What a lovely young lady. I like that despite her livelihood being threatened by this bullshit, she can speak on it for 20 minutes without ranting and raving. Can't say the same for myself. EightVape was my go-to when I was hooked on nicotine too.
I looked up this new shipping company. It doesn't look like it's much more expensive than FedEx or UPS. Here's part of their statement on vape shipping:
The Only National Shipping Carrier That Can Ship Vape Products – Reimagine Delivery
florduh
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Please do. The marketing speak is pretty off-putting. I wonder if they're just getting slammed right now. And they're probably focusing on companies like Eightvape that do shit tons of volume.
"X" is a fucking stupid name too.
Abysmal Vapor
Saturnine in my mind
Reminds me of a Gyros/Duner joint across the street called "Molly" and under it at 4-5 different places "It is not what you are thinking" ..
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They just got back after I refilled the application. They only handle shipments for companies doing 500+ daily devices. Seems like this will leave out the little guys and startups.
Vapefanatic
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I'm curious to know who sells 500+ dry herb vape devices daily?
florduh
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It's the nicotine people. That's where the big money is. Maybe if this really takes off, the minimum can be lowered. We're running into the same problem that got us into this mess: the dry herb vape market is too small to have any influence.
Correct. They sell 500+ packages a day easy over at 8vape or similar sites.
I'd take this article with a grain of salt... for whatever reason this website always rubbed me the wrong way, plus the author seems to write every single article there and they always reek of click bait... sucked me right in today though 
www.marijuanamoment.net
While I didn't really find any super helpful info, it did point me in the direction of this, which gives me a bit more hope that we might end up being ok:
www.federalregister.gov
Again nothing definitive by any means but it appears the USPS is at least open to considering exemptions... possibly exemptions for vaporizers intended to be used with legal hemp product? Or did I completely misunderstand... entirely possible
USPS Wants Hemp And CBD Vape Companies To Prepare For Upcoming Mailing Restrictions
The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) wants to help businesses that mail hemp and CBD vaporizers prepare for a forthcoming rule change that could impact the mailability of their products. In a notice published in the Federal Register on Monday, the agency discussed how congressional legislation passed...
www.marijuanamoment.net
While I didn't really find any super helpful info, it did point me in the direction of this, which gives me a bit more hope that we might end up being ok:
Treatment of E-Cigarettes in the Mail
A forthcoming final rule will determine whether electronic nicotine delivery systems (``ENDS'') may continue to be mailed pursuant to certain statutory exceptions that are currently administered through an application process. To the extent that such exceptions may ultimately be made available...
www.federalregister.gov
Again nothing definitive by any means but it appears the USPS is at least open to considering exemptions... possibly exemptions for vaporizers intended to be used with legal hemp product? Or did I completely misunderstand... entirely possible
flammy
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I'd take this article with a grain of salt... for whatever reason this website always rubbed me the wrong way, plus the author seems to write every single article there and they always reek of click bait... sucked me right in today though
USPS Wants Hemp And CBD Vape Companies To Prepare For Upcoming Mailing Restrictions
The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) wants to help businesses that mail hemp and CBD vaporizers prepare for a forthcoming rule change that could impact the mailability of their products. In a notice published in the Federal Register on Monday, the agency discussed how congressional legislation passed...
While I didn't really find any super helpful info, it did point me in the direction of this, which gives me a bit more hope that we might end up being ok:
Treatment of E-Cigarettes in the Mail
A forthcoming final rule will determine whether electronic nicotine delivery systems (``ENDS'') may continue to be mailed pursuant to certain statutory exceptions that are currently administered through an application process. To the extent that such exceptions may ultimately be made available...
Again nothing definitive by any means but it appears the USPS is at least open to considering exemptions... possibly exemptions for vaporizers intended to be used with legal hemp product? Or did I completely misunderstand... entirely possible
That article is a bit misleading. The only exemption that the USPS proposed to apply to ENDS is the business/regulatory exception. They did have an open comment period where you could advocate for the inclusion of the consumer testing/public health exception but that period closed at the end of March and was largely misused as a way to ask the USPS to provide a carve out for cannabis vapes or dry herb vapes.
I will put here one last thing that should put to rest the debate as it relates to the interpretation of ENDS and more specifically "through an aerosolized solution". The USPS also published a notice on the Register when they opened the comment period as it relates to the potential exemptions on 2/19/21 and within that notice they provide a definition of an ENDS (https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...1-03393/treatment-of-e-cigarettes-in-the-mail):
"ENDS are electronic devices and their components and fillers, which deliver either nicotine or non-nicotine substances to a user when a liquid is vaporized, and the resulting vapor inhaled."
The phrase "when a liquid is vaporized" is pretty clear and conforms to the interpretation that a device needs to be capable of aerosolizing a solution to be considered an ENDS.