The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

[ktmstick]

hey guys

I have my Mighty now since February last year. At the beginning it was a great experience but meanwhile I'm getting this "popcorn" taste very early at the beginning of a bowl. Even a cleaned cooling unit does not affect this (cleaned chamber too but I don't get that fully clean).
I can't remember how it was at the very beginning with the Mighty but I would say with time the taste abated.. Can anyone relate to this?

I'd also like to nowif there is a real difference between the Mighty Medic and the regular Mighty.

Please read the previous 2 pages to answer your question regarding mighty medic.

Do you have more than 1 cooling unit?

Seal your thumb over the gauzed bit that attaches to the mighty and blow/suck in the mouth piece. Is there a leak?

 

[Skywalker420]

Yep, there is a real difference. And it's just been explained on this page.

thanks I just got it the moment you wrote that ^^

Please read the previous 2 pages to answer your question regarding mighty medic.

Do you have more than 1 cooling unit?

Seal your thumb over the gauzed bit that attaches to the mighty and blow/suck in the mouth piece. Is there a leak?

yes I do have two cooling units. I'm cleaning them with isopropyl. Cannot test that right now but will do later at home. But both seem not to have leaks as far as I did never notice sth.

The chamber looks way like this one. little burned in though but not that much

 

[vapviking]

thanks I just got it the moment you wrote that ^^



yes I do have two cooling units. I'm cleaning them with isopropyl. Cannot test that right now but will do later at home. But both seem not to have leaks as far as I did never notice sth.

The chamber looks way like this one. little burned in though but not that much

Clean vape is a happy vape.
I think the popcorn taste may br one of two things.
Maybe you have used very fine grind or maybe oils and some of that has gone done below the chamber, only to be reheated over and over again. In my opinion this would requiore a factory service to get clean in there. It would void warranty if you were to open the case to do this yourself.

The other possibility is that dirty chamber!
Two methods to get it clean(er); both take some time and a little heat.
First turn unit on and let it warm to about 80-90 degrees C, with c/u off. Turn off.
Take a section of paper towel, fold and roll into a cylinder, a plug that will fit snugly into the chamber, then moisten with iso alcohol, the more pure, the better. Not a dripping mess, but fully moist. Put the plug in the oven and leave it there. It's universally suggested that this kind of thing be done with Mighty upside down, so no alcohol can drip into the unit. You can turn Mighty on again while plug is in, just to warm, not hot. You can turn the plug 'round to swab the chamber.
Give it 5-10 minutes, but before it's dry, take the plug it out. It will have absorbed a lot of resin. You can refold, reuse or start with an new piece; repeat until clean.

Another choice is to use a Magic Eraser, with either water or alcohol ( I think the alcohol is quicker). Find a type that doesn't have any detergents, etc. I've used Mr. Clean Extra Strength (or some such name, idr). Again, a warm oven is your friend in cleaning process. I use a small piece, put it in there and then use the butt end of the cleaning brush to push the eraser around the perimeter of bowl. This will make it shine like new, but takes time and a little patience.

Down and dirty method would be to use an abrasive cleaning pad, but this will leave the bowl with a coarse finish (scratched) that's later harder to clean, and may possibly leave some aluminum dust behind!

 

[biohacker]

Just to add to what Vapviking said, I also make sure the bowl is warm but not hot. I use the little wooden brush that comes with it + an ISO wipe (the little mini ones from drug store). I wrap the wipe around the end of the brush and then apply pressure to the sides of the bowl and keep doing that until it's shining. I first thought the resin "scratches" I had in the bowl would never be able to be removed, but I was so happy that I was wrong! It's amazing how quickly the bottom of the chamber can fill with weed dust, and it turns black and quickly affects flavour, so maintenance is essentially to keep everything clean as a whistle. Even just a use or two can affect it as well as the CU stinks after use. I don't know how some of you guys wait for reclaim, yuck!

I'm not sure anything would survive falling through the chamber, unless I supposed it's right under the holes, but it should get hot enough in there to incinerate it. I personally would never use a magic eraser in anything i'm inhaling from, no matter how much residue you think you've cleaned from it. But if you do, make sure you really clean up properly with ISO after.

I'm surprised that S&B haven't come out with some sort of "cleaning kit" yet, but the key here is to not let it get to that point!

 

[blablablabla]

the caps might help to avoid this problem in future

 

[blablablabla]

I was asking about the chinese oil pads few days ago, but what about those SB ones? are they quality, did anybody got harsh throat from them or other complications? they seems like steel wool

 

[Skywalker420]

Thanks. I'll do it as described and will use the caps in future. Ordered some yesterday.

 

[calebsw]

I just got a mighty a few weeks ago, and I'm in love with it! but I have a question about the dosing capsules. Does anyone ever find them cinched down so tight that they're nearly impossible to open? Mine came with 2 magazines of capsules, and I used 1 magazine with its 8 caps exclusively for the first month. Everything was great, capsule lids were easy to remove, and there was no apparent resistance with closing the magazine.

This week it was time to wash everything, so I grabbed the second magazine. There's resistance trying to twist this magazine all the way closed. I see the notch where it's supposed to rest in the closed position, but it takes noticeable effort to make the notches get lined up. I didn't think much of this until I started trying to open these capsules, and I was breaking my nails with every single one. The only way I can open many of these is to literally deform the capsule, and then push it back into its original shape after opening it. I'm thinking maybe the magazine or the capsules are out of spec, and when I tried closing that magazine, it was cranking the lids on the capsules down tight, which might explain the resistance I experience trying to close this magazine.

But then I grabbed capsules out of the bag of 40 I also bought, and used them instead. I put them into the original magazine I had been using, the magazine without any issues, and now this magazine has some resistance in closing, and now the capsules I've put into this magazine are cinched down super tight! So now I'm not so sure it's the magazine that's out of spec, maybe it's the capsules... I just don't know, though.

What can I do to prevent this from happening? I know it seems silly to complain of broken nails, but my thumbnail has been utterly abused in this process. Chipping, breaking, and folding backwards, that's what my nail has endured this past week. So deforming the capsules in effort to open them is the best solution I have right now, but I just want to know why the capsules are not as easy to open as they were initially? but more importantly, I just want tips for how to circumvent this, or how to prevent this altogether. Thanks

 

[SSVUN~YAH]

Hi @calebsw

I don't have a magazine for the capsules. However, I know for a fact you can heat the dosing capsules to separate. A good tip is to separate them when they are hot enough to handle. If you let them sit too much longer the odds of them cinching up again will increase.

 

[ambertrichome]

@calebsw re capsules I use the end of the Mighty brush to gently expand the lids circumference. Job done no more broken nails

 

[blablablabla]

I just got a mighty a few weeks ago, and I'm in love with it! but I have a question about the dosing capsules. Does anyone ever find them cinched down so tight that they're nearly impossible to open? Mine came with 2 magazines of capsules, and I used 1 magazine with its 8 caps exclusively for the first month. Everything was great, capsule lids were easy to remove, and there was no apparent resistance with closing the magazine.

This week it was time to wash everything, so I grabbed the second magazine. There's resistance trying to twist this magazine all the way closed. I see the notch where it's supposed to rest in the closed position, but it takes noticeable effort to make the notches get lined up. I didn't think much of this until I started trying to open these capsules, and I was breaking my nails with every single one. The only way I can open many of these is to literally deform the capsule, and then push it back into its original shape after opening it. I'm thinking maybe the magazine or the capsules are out of spec, and when I tried closing that magazine, it was cranking the lids on the capsules down tight, which might explain the resistance I experience trying to close this magazine.

But then I grabbed capsules out of the bag of 40 I also bought, and used them instead. I put them into the original magazine I had been using, the magazine without any issues, and now this magazine has some resistance in closing, and now the capsules I've put into this magazine are cinched down super tight! So now I'm not so sure it's the magazine that's out of spec, maybe it's the capsules... I just don't know, though.

What can I do to prevent this from happening? I know it seems silly to complain of broken nails, but my thumbnail has been utterly abused in this process. Chipping, breaking, and folding backwards, that's what my nail has endured this past week. So deforming the capsules in effort to open them is the best solution I have right now, but I just want to know why the capsules are not as easy to open as they were initially? but more importantly, I just want tips for how to circumvent this, or how to prevent this altogether. Thanks

@calebsw re capsules
I use the end of the Mighty brush to gently expand the lids circumference. Job done no more broken nails

great post man, the smartest, wisest ideas are usually very simple. I was thinking about the same issue and wanted to tell the op to pick up scalpel like knife and gently pry it open, but try not to cut yourself! I was also thinking about using some vegetable oil or some kind of lubricant as they use with glass mouthpieces and similar stuff.

 

[vapviking]

I just got a mighty a few weeks ago, and I'm in love with it! but I have a question about the dosing capsules. Does anyone ever find them cinched down so tight that they're nearly impossible to open? Mine came with 2 magazines of capsules, and I used 1 magazine with its 8 caps exclusively for the first month. Everything was great, capsule lids were easy to remove, and there was no apparent resistance with closing the magazine.

This week it was time to wash everything, so I grabbed the second magazine. There's resistance trying to twist this magazine all the way closed. I see the notch where it's supposed to rest in the closed position, but it takes noticeable effort to make the notches get lined up. I didn't think much of this until I started trying to open these capsules, and I was breaking my nails with every single one. The only way I can open many of these is to literally deform the capsule, and then push it back into its original shape after opening it. I'm thinking maybe the magazine or the capsules are out of spec, and when I tried closing that magazine, it was cranking the lids on the capsules down tight, which might explain the resistance I experience trying to close this magazine.

But then I grabbed capsules out of the bag of 40 I also bought, and used them instead. I put them into the original magazine I had been using, the magazine without any issues, and now this magazine has some resistance in closing, and now the capsules I've put into this magazine are cinched down super tight! So now I'm not so sure it's the magazine that's out of spec, maybe it's the capsules... I just don't know, though.

What can I do to prevent this from happening? I know it seems silly to complain of broken nails, but my thumbnail has been utterly abused in this process. Chipping, breaking, and folding backwards, that's what my nail has endured this past week. So deforming the capsules in effort to open them is the best solution I have right now, but I just want to know why the capsules are not as easy to open as they were initially? but more importantly, I just want tips for how to circumvent this, or how to prevent this altogether. Thanks

Only a partial response to a part of your capsule problem...and just a thought...

If the capsules are set into the magazine upside down (lid toward the orange half) then they don't seat all the way down easily, the magazine lid will be restricted in travel and it will also exert pressure on the caps, forcing their lids on tighter. On the other hand, in partial answer to another part, this upside down placement with the pressure can help bring distorted cap lids back into shape.

As I try to lift a lid off, if its not easily coming off, I rotate and look for a spot where it will come off.

Hope these are not too simplistic, it's sure possible you have a bum batch. Let S&B know you have trouble and they'll replace, I'm sure, without question.

 

[MonkeyTime]

I just got a mighty a few weeks ago, and I'm in love with it! but I have a question about the dosing capsules. Does anyone ever find them cinched down so tight that they're nearly impossible to open? Mine came with 2 magazines of capsules, and I used 1 magazine with its 8 caps exclusively for the first month. Everything was great, capsule lids were easy to remove, and there was no apparent resistance with closing the magazine.

This week it was time to wash everything, so I grabbed the second magazine. There's resistance trying to twist this magazine all the way closed. I see the notch where it's supposed to rest in the closed position, but it takes noticeable effort to make the notches get lined up. I didn't think much of this until I started trying to open these capsules, and I was breaking my nails with every single one. The only way I can open many of these is to literally deform the capsule, and then push it back into its original shape after opening it. I'm thinking maybe the magazine or the capsules are out of spec, and when I tried closing that magazine, it was cranking the lids on the capsules down tight, which might explain the resistance I experience trying to close this magazine.

But then I grabbed capsules out of the bag of 40 I also bought, and used them instead. I put them into the original magazine I had been using, the magazine without any issues, and now this magazine has some resistance in closing, and now the capsules I've put into this magazine are cinched down super tight! So now I'm not so sure it's the magazine that's out of spec, maybe it's the capsules... I just don't know, though.

What can I do to prevent this from happening? I know it seems silly to complain of broken nails, but my thumbnail has been utterly abused in this process. Chipping, breaking, and folding backwards, that's what my nail has endured this past week. So deforming the capsules in effort to open them is the best solution I have right now, but I just want to know why the capsules are not as easy to open as they were initially? but more importantly, I just want tips for how to circumvent this, or how to prevent this altogether. Thanks

I like everyone's suggestions, and thought @vapviking nailed it with the thought of them being upside down. Then I did it to one of mine, and it popped right open. Then again.......

I've also found mine to loosen up with use. Now I use the same 16 in rotation and only blow them clean. I like a little resin in them, it's helps them stay closed!

I second the idea of contacting S/B.

**Edit - it just came to me, this is really a great thread! I'd like thank all of you
We have no drama, very few complaints, and someone asks a question, and he gets a bunch of great replies. Well done team Mighty!

 

[Skywalker420]

**Edit - it just came to me, this is really a great thread! I'd like thank all of you
We have no drama, very few complaints, and someone asks a question, and he gets a bunch of great replies. Well done team Mighty!

word! I'm also verry happy that I found this thread here.

I always use the official S&B grinder which grinds the herb very fine sometimes even a little dusty. Is it better to use a less fine grinder for the Mighty?

 

[biohacker]

We have no drama, very few complaints, and someone asks a question, and he gets a bunch of great replies. Well done team Mighty!

Interesting how this is supposed to be a "problem RMA" vape as well, so I guess that goes out the window! Don't people come on to forums and threads to voice their problems? Guess the Mighty is a tank! I always thought so! The Crafty on the other hand? Perhaps it's solid now too? That thread is a GHOST TOWN! Why?

Is it better to use a less fine grinder for the Mighty?

I don't think so, but it's personal preference and you will get a bunch of replies that disagree with mine. I don't like fine grinds in any vape really. I find that a coarser grind allows better airflow, taste, and most importantly for me - lung comfort. A fine grind in the Mighty really irritates me at higher temps, and taste goes south much faster. Also more destruction of terpenes compared to a coarser shred. All depends on the vape, but with the Mighty being a Convection/Conduction hybrid, more on the convection side IMO, I think a medium to coarse grind is ideal. But do you want CLOUDS? You know more particulate condensate? Go fine. I disagree that you get more medicated with a fine grind like I think Vape Critic says.

Experiment and tell us what you think Skywalker420!

 

[MonkeyTime]

word! I'm also verry happy that I found this thread here.

I always use the official S&B grinder which grinds the herb very fine sometimes even a little dusty. Is it better to use a less fine grinder for the Mighty?

I'm with @biohacker , I did think you get vapor faster/easier with a fine grind. But I prefer closer to a medium shred, it saves on cleaning, doesn't irritate my throat..... Then again, if I'm trying to show off for smokers, a fine grind thru water at 410F and away I go!

 

[mucsusn]

I was asking about the chinese oil pads few days ago, but what about those SB ones? are they quality, did anybody got harsh throat from them or other complications? they seems like steel wool

I've been using the S&B pads since day 1, no issues.

 

[mitchgo61]

Just to add to what Vapviking said, I also make sure the bowl is warm but not hot. I use the little wooden brush that comes with it + an ISO wipe (the little mini ones from drug store). I wrap the wipe around the end of the brush and then apply pressure to the sides of the bowl and keep doing that until it's shining. I first thought the resin "scratches" I had in the bowl would never be able to be removed, but I was so happy that I was wrong! It's amazing how quickly the bottom of the chamber can fill with weed dust, and it turns black and quickly affects flavour, so maintenance is essentially to keep everything clean as a whistle. Even just a use or two can affect it as well as the CU stinks after use. I don't know how some of you guys wait for reclaim, yuck!

This right here has to be the best advice I've seen yet for cleaning the Mighty bowl. I just did a slight variation on it....I used a bamboo spear instead of the brush....wrapped an iso wipe around it and just wiped against the metal bowl sides, in circular fashion, with slight pressure, over and over again....part of the trick seems to be just getting into a groove with it and continue to rotate the wipe against the metal, over and over.

Took me a total of four iso wipes and about ten minutes of constant wiping rotation, but my bowl went from black to shiny metal. Cleanest it's been in over a year. Nice tip Biohacker!!

 

[blablablabla]

Interesting how this is supposed to be a "problem RMA" vape as well, so I guess that goes out the window! Don't people come on to forums and threads to voice their problems? Guess the Mighty is a tank! I always thought so! The Crafty on the other hand? Perhaps it's solid now too? That thread is a GHOST TOWN! Why?



I don't think so, but it's personal preference and you will get a bunch of replies that disagree with mine. I don't like fine grinds in any vape really. I find that a coarser grind allows better airflow, taste, and most importantly for me - lung comfort. A fine grind in the Mighty really irritates me at higher temps, and taste goes south much faster. Also more destruction of terpenes compared to a coarser shred. All depends on the vape, but with the Mighty being a Convection/Conduction hybrid, more on the convection side IMO, I think a medium to coarse grind is ideal. But do you want CLOUDS? You know more particulate condensate? Go fine. I disagree that you get more medicated with a fine grind like I think Vape Critic says.

Experiment and tell us what you think Skywalker420!

Shout out to vape critic he inspired me to step my game up and go for the mighty. Is he a member of FC?
Did you tested the fine grind and filled the chamber or capsules?

 

[bobo305]

ready to jump on the mighty with the new price drop. how's the reliability issues? still a concern as with the crafty. comments appreciated.

 

[Baron23]

Also more destruction of terpenes compared to a coarser shred.

I don't seem to want to immediately agree with this. Do you mean that the terps are damaged by grinding or that when fine ground, the terps are extracted fully in the first draw or two?

I do grind fine as I believe that this exposes more surface area to heat. I do think that this speeds up extraction, to include terps, but I don't see any negative consequences to this in terms of effect.

Cheers

 

[blablablabla]

ready to jump on the mighty with the new price drop. how's the reliability issues? still a concern as with the crafty. comments appreciated.

how much is the new price drop? with shipping for you? thx

 

[mitchgo61]

I gave Biohacker's method a try on my other Mighty, with similar results. While not spotless, I removed 99% of the build-up (and as you can see, it also thoroughly cleans the bottom screen in the process).

Still have the buildup under the lip of the ceramic part....I'm loathe to attempt anything particularly aggressive with it. Some of it gets removed during this process, but not enough to really clear out the seam between the ceramic and the metal.

Here's a couple quick-and-dirty before/after pix.

 

[biohacker]

Did you tested the fine grind and filled the chamber or capsules?

Yep, I wasn't really much of a fan of the capsules, just so much of a different experience than direct load. Same with the MiniVap actually with the flexicone basket if you are familiar with that Spanish high end vape, but its bowl is massive. I would have to test the capsules a little more, and plan to as my usage patterns are changing, and I actually think I will prefer using the capsules nearly exclusively once I start vaping again.

Perhaps others can chime in more on the capsules?

ready to jump on the mighty with the new price drop. how's the reliability issues? still a concern as with the crafty. comments appreciated.

Nope, the Mighty is rock solid IMO. Crafty I think is still a little hairy for reliability, but lots go the distance, I think it depends on your usage habits. I destroyed my batteries very quickly with the Crafty, but the Mighty could hold up to my abuse.

I don't seem to want to immediately agree with this. Do you mean that the terps are damaged by grinding or that when fine ground, the terps are extracted fully in the first draw or two?

Trichs are damaged more with a finer grind, and yes with the fine your terps are getting extracted much faster IMO. Alot depends on temperature as well.

I do grind fine as I believe that this exposes more surface area to heat. I do think that this speeds up extraction, to include terps, but I don't see any negative consequences to this in terms of effect.

I don't either, but a coarser grind will give you a different experience....better flavour IMO as well as a longer session, and easier on your airways, and less mess in the CU as fast. It's not "more surface area is better" IMO.

it also thoroughly cleans the bottom screen in the process)

Yes completely forgot about that! I'm so happy you like the technique and it works for you! Your post clean Mighty looks awesome!

 

[vapviking]

I gave Biohacker's method a try on my other Mighty, with similar results. While not spotless, I removed 99% of the build-up (and as you can see, it also thoroughly cleans the bottom screen in the process).

Still have the buildup under the lip of the ceramic part....I'm loathe to attempt anything particularly aggressive with it. Some of it gets removed during this process, but not enough to really clear out the seam between the ceramic and the metal.

Here's a couple quick-and-dirty before/after pix.

While @biohacker 's method works great, the two that I described (that he was 'adding to') are less work.

Heat and time are your friends in the vape cleaning business.

Depending on your comfort level with the magic eraser (melamine) pads, consider that they will even get the brown ring of gunk at top of bowl cleaner. Even the brown cap ring atop the chamber will clean up better.
For touch-up cleaning later, it's very quick, even just with water.

I always remove the screen if I want to thoroughly clean the chamber.

If not the eraser, then the paper towel plug I described, OR the towlette that @biohacker suggests, but just wad it up and put it in the bowl for the ten minutes with warmth from bowl and it will do most of the work without as much scrubbing.

I prefer to buy my iso in bottled form, it costs less this way than in individual packets.

Another thing I like to do after a deep clean of chamber is change the o-ring, after cleaning up the perimeter. Nothing personal @mitchgo61 but I think your Mighty would look very happy with a bright blue o-ring to set off that clean bowl!

I'm not sure anything would survive falling through the chamber, unless I supposed it's right under the holes, but it should get hot enough in there to incinerate it.

This is logical. I think Grasshoppers rely heavily on this incineration to keep their bowl clean, but we've also noticed (with Hopper) that they seem to sometimes get clogged to a point of restricted draw, only alleviated by a factory service - or some very brave souls have immersed Hopper in alcohol up to it's intake holes.
But, consider this; If stuff below Mighty's chamber is being self-cleaned by incineration, why then is the chamber itself not cleaned by incineration?