The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

[QualityVapes]

What about the option to choose any temp you want with the touch of a button? You can't make the Crafty equal to or better than the Mighty in all respects. They're designed for different preferences. It was a good marketing strategy. Take one basic design and provide what people want with 2 models.

The Crafty does give you that option, it's just on your phone or tablet.

I'm not trying to make the Crafty sound way better. I'm just trying to break down the differences for potential buyers because they're suppose to perform exactly the same.

First, the temp control on the Mighty vs the app temp control/one button control on the Crafty. I admit this is more of a pro for the Mighty, but that really depends on the person.

The Crafty can also stand up right on it's own, while the Mighty can't. Also the Crafty has to be 20% charged before you can use it while it's charging, while the Mighty can go from a dead battery to being used while it's charging.

In my opinion, the two biggest pro and con for most users is size vs battery life. And I'm sharing all of ways for the user to work around the battery life of Crafty (which gives at least 3 sessions any way) but you can't work around the size of the Mighty.

At this point I'm beating a dead horse so I'll try to fall back from the conversation, but I agree that they were designed for different prefences and it was a great marketing stargety.

 

[kimura]

How is it that the crafty and mighty offer identical performance when the cooling unit on the mighty is significantly larger? Is it just superfluous?

 

[EAG1E4]

I'm thinking about going with the Mighty. But I have some Q's

After you take a draw the temperature will drop, and then it takes a while for it to get back to that set temperature you had it on. Are you supposed to wait till it gets back to that set temperature to take another draw or does that not really matter?

Also some people have been reporting that the built in timer doesn't reset fully if they aren't taking a big of enough draw. So there has to be like a point in temperature difference that the timer will reset. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks.

 

[max]

Are you supposed to wait till it gets back to that set temperature to take another draw or does that not really matter?

It matters if the temp you're using is a low one. Hit it again too quickly (more likely when being passed around) and it may not be up to vaping temp again yet. If the temp is well into vaping range, another quick hit may be fine. It also may get back to temp quickly enough so it's not even an issue. It's certainly not anything I've ever worried about with any of the dozens of models I've used over the years.

 

[QualityVapes]

How is it that the crafty and mighty offer identical performance when the cooling unit on the mighty is significantly larger? Is it just superfluous?

Everyone is reporting that the vapor they produce are the same and the larger cooling unit isn't making a difference.

Also some people have been reporting that the built in timer doesn't reset fully if they aren't taking a big of enough draw. So there has to be like a point in temperature difference that the timer will reset. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks.

Yeah, the Vape Critic reported that it has to be a big enough draw to make it go down 5 degrees, give or take. He said it isn't exact but thats what he's been experiencing for the most part.

I know with the Crafty you can just press the button once before the minute is up to reset the timer. And I think with the Mighty you can just toggle the degrees once before the minute's up to reset it. Can any owners verify that?

 

[BuzzDanklin]

So I decided to do a pre-heat test last night.

I got the Crafty and the Mighty both to full charge. I then fully filled them both with the same type of herb and the same sized bowl, set them both to max temp (410) and timed their pre-heatting. The ambient temp in my basement was low to mid 60's

The Mighty was able to get to 410 in 1:35, The Crafty took a whole 2:38 to get there, so performance is definitely not EXACTLY the same, although vapor production is close enough that I haven't been able to tell a difference there yet.

 

[grokit]

I know with the Crafty you can just press the button once before the minute is up to reset the timer. And I think with the Mighty you can just toggle the degrees once before the minute's up to reset it.

Is an accelerometer involved in the auto shutoff?
If not perhaps there should be

 

[QualityVapes]

Is an accelerometer involved in the auto shutoff?
If not perhaps there should be

Idk. But I'm not too concerned because I don't mind pressing the button before the minute is up.

 

[Ralph]

Hey folks,
So its been almost 2 weeks with both the crafty and the mighty. In nutshell the performance is about 80 percent close. The mighty does heat up faster, does stay warmer longer which I will attribute to thermal mass, and the battery is far superior. Taste is identical! For me personally, the mighty is 10 times more convenient. If I had to pull out my phone to maximize my capability experience all the time I would quit smoking. However, the times I'm watching live music the crafty is cool and a tad more stealth but not a game changer . I definitely use my mighty way more, the size is bigger but still portable and the battery rocks!!!!!! For the user that is looking for a vape that fits all, I would without hesitation go with the mighty. I currently own the herbalizer as my desktop vape but it has taken a back seat to the mighty. I freakin love this thing!!!!!!

 

[max]

If I had to pull out my phone to maximize my capability experience all the time I would quit smoking.

Since you're on fuckcombustion we assumed you already had.

 

[EAG1E4]

If I pull the trigger on this vape, I might have to make some budget cuts in the future. The VAS though..

 

[Sabe]

Maybe someone with both the Crafty & Mighty can post a video heating them to max temp at the same time.
I believe the poster who talked about the disparity in heat-up time. Though it makes perfect sense, it makes me a little sad. I was under the impression that size and battery life were the only two differences between Crafty & Mighty.

 

[jdee]

crafty 1x18650@3.7v/30amps=111watts available, mighty 2x18650@7.4v/60amps=444watts available, although the spec sheet says 27W for crafty and 30W for mighty, the 1:35 vs 2:38 heatup to 410f of the crafty/mighty suggest a difference of more than 3W for the heating element.

 

[Ralph]

Maybe I can clear the smoke a little better for everybody between the crafty and the mighty. Fortunately for me I am not a medical user. As of now I have been blessed with good overall health. I have been smoking recreationally since about 7th grade ( I'm now 44 ) because at the time it was cool and fun and since then because I just like to. I have been smoking with combustion over 30 years, while not heavy, but still combusting. Bought the digital volcano maybe over a decade ago which I still own and many portables in between. This includes the Solo, the Pax, the flower mate 5, the firefly, the cloud, the harbalizer which I still own and in my personal opinion the top of the food chain in terms of desktop vaporizers go, and the mighty and crafty as my current toys. Unless I am going to a big event where I am going to be frisked, the mighty serves the stealth aspect enough for me. The crafty is cool and works great. Its more techy and all but the mighty is almost as good as it gets. It is super convenient, heats up fast, gives just as big a cloud as any vape Ive used, tastes incredible, easy to clean, has a great battery, and just plain does exactly what it is suppose to. It is very easy to judge after the fact in terms of how to make anything better. But if having to push a button to reset a timer or to have to hold 2 buttons to go from Celsius to fairenheight is such a big deal than maybe I'm not that critical. But if getting the desired affect in a quick, tasty, convenient, portable manner is all you need this thing is fucking perfect!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sure there will be someone on this forum with much more skills or ingenuity than I, that will come up with a glass mouthpiece, and bubbler attachments , etc,, but that will only add to the great factor. Best money I've spent on this "hobby" ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Halfqq]

Hey folks,
So its been almost 2 weeks with both the crafty and the mighty. In nutshell the performance is about 80 percent close. The mighty does heat up faster, does stay warmer longer which I will attribute to thermal mass, and the battery is far superior. Taste is identical! For me personally, the mighty is 10 times more convenient. If I had to pull out my phone to maximize my capability experience all the time I would quit smoking. However, the times I'm watching live music the crafty is cool and a tad more stealth but not a game changer . I definitely use my mighty way more, the size is bigger but still portable and the battery rocks!!!!!! For the user that is looking for a vape that fits all, I would without hesitation go with the mighty. I currently own the herbalizer as my desktop vape but it has taken a back seat to the mighty. I freakin love this thing!!!!!!

Thankfully I went with the mighty - I also have a herbalizer, wondering if I'll use her much once the mighty arrives ( tomorrow hopefully)

 

[Malibu0578]

Seems to me it is a matter of preference. From my experience (I have the mighty), the mighty is the way to go. Just because of the different options and battery life. No doubt, the crafty is also a strong second. To me, if I was going to pay almost 400 for the crafty, may as well put a few more dollars in, and get a satisfying model. And to me, it is just as stealthy as the crafty. People probably think you have a cell phone in your hand till' they see that strong vapor rising up through the air...

I did notice after my first mouthpiece and cooling unit cleaning, the taste was fresher than before. I would
almost suggest a good cleaning before first use.

 

[EAG1E4]

I have been mostly vaping with a Solo recently. It is nice, but I don't really like the draw resistance and I would like something that is a more "heavy hitter" with bigger clouds. I want this vape because for a portable, it looks like it can give me desktop quality vapor. The reports say that there is little to no draw resistance with the Crafty and Mighty. I would go with the Mighty to have that extra battery life. I have only had my Solo for 6 months and I can already tell that the battery's performance is slowly weakening. With the Mighty you will have great battery life for years..

I just read through the entire thread and I am convinced that I won't be less than impressed when it arrives.

A couple more Q's I have before I go all in with the Mighty.

How is the taste? I understand it uses a combo of convection/conduction. But what is the ratio? 50/50 25/75... ect. Do you feel it uses more conduction than convection and vice versa...

Do you feel like you miss out on some of that taste due to whatever amount of conduction is taking place?

How do you guys think the Mighty stacks up against the MiniVap?

 

[Malibu0578]

Hey, all you Mighty owners,
When I am charging my unit, it always charges up fully. That's good. Crazy thing that, when it is low, I plug it up to the wall for normal charging. The display gets to the last notch on the battery display and keeps on blinking! If I pull the plug out the unit and put it back in, it shows full charge. I Just wonder why it keeps on blinking when I thought it was supposed to stop when the charge was full?

Thought about contacting tech support..

 

[JCat]

If we order in Canada from storz-bickel.com us site will we also get charged duty? Or is the mighty duty free?

Duty on the Crafty w/ a maintenance kit and screen set was ~$70 (ie. total cost was ~= $400 + $35 + $5 + $70 = $510)

 

[Gonzo]

Hey, all you Mighty owners,
When I am charging my unit, it always charges up fully. That's good. Crazy thing that, when it is low, I plug it up to the wall for normal charging. The display gets to the last notch on the battery display and keeps on blinking! If I pull the plug out the unit and put it back in, it shows full charge. I Just wonder why it keeps on blinking when I thought it was supposed to stop when the charge was full?

Thought about contacting tech support..

How long did you wait for the last bar to stop blinking?

 

[tdriver]

I'm almost there ordering the mighty....... one question though.

my wife and me use a solo the last 6 months.... we need usually about 3-4 longish hits to get medicated.
this 8 hits are almost a full stem on level 4 on the solo. (there are a couple more hits left, but way weaker)

suppose we had the mighty filled and charged...... how many hits would we need? the same 8 again or less??

it seems fast 4 hits each, but it's not. it takes about 15 minutes to get us where we want to be..... I hope the mighty is somewhat faster.

is the filling chamber any bigger?
maybe someone with both can give me some answers.

 

[Malibu0578]

How long did you wait for the last bar to stop blinking?

It's like an eternal wait! I let it sit overnight and it was still blinking. I take out the plug, and put it back in, it shows full. Maybe this is a glitch?

 

[Kaptan]

I'm almost there ordering the mighty....... one question though.

my wife and me use a solo the last 6 months.... we need usually about 3-4 longish hits to get medicated.
this 8 hits are almost a full stem on level 4 on the solo. (there are a couple more hits left, but way weaker)

suppose we had the mighty filled and charged...... how many hits would we need? the same 8 again or less??

it seems fast 4 hits each, but it's not. it takes about 15 minutes to get us where we want to be..... I hope the mighty is somewhat faster.

is the filling chamber any bigger?
maybe someone with both can give me some answers.

A Solo stem holds just about the same that the Crafty / Mighty can in the heat chamber. I usually get about 7-10 lung busting hits on my Crafty with a filled chamber at temp 385 F. I would estimate that you would get where you two want in about half the time.

 

[tdriver]

A Solo stem holds just about the same that the Crafty / Mighty can in the heat chamber. I usually get about 7-10 lung busting hits on my Crafty with a filled chamber at temp 385 F. I would estimate that you would get where you two want in about half the time.

cool, that is what I wanted to hear....

 

[EAG1E4]

How do you guys feel about the plastic design? I guess that is one major thing that is holding me back. I really am trying to avoid plastic pathway. Idk how safe it is.. ect..

Do you guys get any plastic taste?