The Magic-Flight Box

[Lokbok]

I don't know if I'd agree with this sentiment. I don't think what is going on at GC can be drawn in parallel to what goes on here, with any vaporizer. Here, people discuss vapes on their merits. If you say something as fact, you'd better be able to back it up if someone questions it. And you get a wide cross-section of opinions on all sorts of different vapes.

At Grasscity, and some parts of reddit, people see their choice of vaporizer as an extension of their own personalities. If you do not unequivocally agree with their choice, you are insulting a part of their very essence and they get very defensive, angry and usually end up saying anything to make it seem like they are right and you are wrong. For these communities, it's usually the MFLB. Thank goodness this does not happen much here, as in my opinion it embarrasses all vaporists when it happens, making us look like pedantic, territorial children. I enjoy reading this thread because it is one of the few places to get information about the box without letting fanboyism get in the way of the fact.

When I posted that post, it was in reply to a thread that was entitled "Why do some people dislike the MFLB". These aren't so much all my own reasons for disliking the box as they are what I think may be the reasons other people don't like the box. For me, it's just the high - I just don't like the tired high I get off of it. It's not so much about being able to master the box - I have (made a video a while back when someone tried to claim I just didn't like it because I couldn't use it) and still don't like it, but I appreciate it on it's own pro's and cons rather than affiliation with another product.

I can see where you're coming from. I think a lot of people do hate on the MFLB as a counter-reaction to separate themselves from what they deem as MFLB "rabble" - its kind of a shame. Personally I get the most mileage out of MFLB but I've definitely learned to handle it pretty efficiently. I've actually owned a Solo and Pax before but sold both to get another MFLB. I just like how it works for me and like the company that stands behind their product 100%. The only other vape I own now is the E-Nano. With all that said.. when a random person new to vaping asks me what my opinion for a good overall portable, I'd recommend the Solo over the MFLB because for most people its far easier to use (though I'd recommend an E-Nano over Solo by far if one doesn't care about cordless capabilities). MFLB requires a little more time to get "the feel" down for it even though its easy to operate - it can be difficult for some to get better mileage out of it.

 

[vapirtoo]

CentiZen has an interesting observation on convection vs. conduction . The LB's conduction and short
vapor path can make the hit seem almost as harsh as combustion, but I never thought about the high of a convection hit.
The only pure convection vape I have is the Vapir 5.0 which still works after 3 years, and I must admit the high is impressive and the ABV is never scorched.
The LB takes a fair amount of virtuosity to really satisfy, and some times I just want a simple no-brainer hit, so I go to another vape.
Out in public the LB shines every time. ( Glyph batts )
As our whole community seems to be moving towards bigger and stronger vapor, the LB is being
left in the ABV.
Magicflight has to jump on the concentrate bandwagon, hint hint. ( Are you fremen listening ?)

 

[Lokbok]

I've never used it but MFLB does sell trays that allow you to use concentrates in their units.

 

[Vicki]

I've never used it but MFLB does sell trays that allow you to use concentrates in their units.

I am using the concentrate trays "without" the pads for my bubble hash right now.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I've never used it but MFLB does sell trays that allow you to use concentrates in their units.

And they work pretty damn well! But you would need to get the power adapter to use it at its best since it's a bit taxing on batteries. It does work, just nowhere as good as using the PA I'd say.

 

[syrupy]

I am using the concentrate trays "without" the pads for my bubble hash right now.

Does the bubble residue deposit a mess on the screen? That would be my worry.

 

[Vicki]

Does the bubble residue deposit a mess on the screen? That would be my worry.

No. The bubble hash stays on the concentrate tray.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Does the bubble residue deposit a mess on the screen? That would be my worry.

The "no-pad" tray she mentions is the one I call the "naked/blank/unscreened" tray. There's one with the screen and a small pad in the middle of it which I use ONLY with 100% full-melt stuff like BHO, CO2, etc. The naked tray has no screen or pad, it's just the shape of the metal only. That one's good for everything else from hash to bubble to kief that melts too much to be used just in the trench. You can just torch it red for 5 seconds to clean it and once it cools down you can give it a quick brush down and a little ISO if you want.

 

[CkT Legend]

Hey guys,
While I'm not new to the concept of smoking, combustion has been my only tried and true method for years...until now. After some discussion with a few friends of mine on different ways to use our herb, vaporization was brought up. I then found myself searching the Internet and found this forum and the thing that caught my eye...the Magic-Flight Launch Box. I had experienced the LB before, but it was poor to put it nicely. Meaning neither i or its owner knew the proper technique. But now I begin to find myself interested in alternate methods and the LB has my attention. All in all, I'd like as much info as possible so I can be sure it is a sound investment. Any and all advice is welcome. Thanks.

 

[Stu]

All in all, I'd like as much info as possible so I can be sure it is a sound investment. Any and all advice is welcome. Thanks.

Welcome, CkT Legend. This thread is a great resource, and our wiki has lots of great information about the MFLB.

You've come to the right place.

 

[escierdanyc]

I've tried a fair amount of vapes and the MFLB is my favorite

Hey guys,
While I'm not new to the concept of smoking, combustion has been my only tried and true method for years...until now. After some discussion with a few friends of mine on different ways to use our herb, vaporization was brought up. I then found myself searching the Internet and found this forum and the thing that caught my eye...the Magic-Flight Launch Box. I had experienced the LB before, but it was poor to put it nicely. Meaning neither i or its owner knew the proper technique. But now I begin to find myself interested in alternate methods and the LB has my attention. All in all, I'd like as much info as possible so I can be sure it is a sound investment. Any and all advice is welcome. Thanks.

I also had a poor experience with the box when I first tried it. After using it a couple of times, and then eventually buying it for myself, it's turned into my favorite vape by far.

It's the most economic vape. It's really easy to control once you get a technique down (which should take less than a week of practice). It's made in the USA, a life-time warranty, and it's made with all safe materials. Oh and the batteries are user replace-able, which is great if you always carry a fresh one.

To sum it up, I really like how "bare" the MFLB is.

 

[OF]

All in all, I'd like as much info as possible so I can be sure it is a sound investment. Any and all advice is welcome. Thanks.

Outstanding attitude, IMO. I'm big on informed buying decisions, IMO it avoids a lot of wasted time and money as well as disappointments.

MFLB is indeed a great vape I think. Widely popular, and many of us have several copies. Both good signs. IMO a good choice, but given it's 'learning curve' and limited bowl size not good for all in all situations (not the best for sharing for instance).

Also well worth considering are the various VGs I think. The bat versions (with the possible exception of the glass one) can be a challenge, perhaps best to stick with more conventional designs at first (although a vape you can 'sanitize' completely in solvents is a nice feature for some). Some look very much like conventional tobacco pipes. They hare heated with a butane lighter (you heat a heat exchanger block inside, most feel there's no evil 'butane fumes' involved although some find the fire part a problem). The trade off is you can explore vaping in all it's glory this way since you have much more control of the heat than with MFLB.

You've got a lot to learn about different extraction temperatures (it can control the 'fractions' of active chemicals you draw off, like making different fuels from crude oil). VGs with their wider working temperature range lets you explore from 'wonderful flavor, but little or no high' right on through 'couch lock'.

IMO if you want to learn what vaping is all about VG is a better call. If you want to kick back and vape another load, MFLB might work out better. But I think you should also check out VG......not to worry MF will still be here when you decide to explore that (a real man needs at least one back up vape you know....). No special battery issues, you can even use a Bic lighter in an emergeny.....

Good luck, hard to go wrong with informed choices really.

OF-

 

[freaktown]

MFLB is 40% off today only until 11:59 pm EST at vapeworld.com

with code: MFLB40

after discount it is $71.40 plus free shipping in continental US.

not sure what state vapeworld is in but i am in CA and punched in my zip and no tax showed up.
plus you get a free 3 piece acrylic grinder.


this seems like an awesome deal and i would get one myself but i already own two LB's.

 

[S1N3]

MFLB is 40% off today only until 11:59 pm EST at vapeworld.com

with code: MFLB40

after discount it is $71.40 plus free shipping in continental US.

not sure what state vapeworld is in but i am in CA and punched in my zip and no tax showed up.
plus you get a free 3 piece acrylic grinder.


this seems like an awesome deal and i would get one myself but i already own two LB's.

PuffitUp also has this deal on the Finishing Grinder today

• Finishing Grinder — $26.99 Code: MFF

Here is a link to the composite all of deals for Cyber Monday

 

[CkT Legend]

Outstanding attitude, IMO. I'm big on informed buying decisions, IMO it avoids a lot of wasted time and money as well as disappointments.

MFLB is indeed a great vape I think. Widely popular, and many of us have several copies. Both good signs. IMO a good choice, but given it's 'learning curve' and limited bowl size not good for all in all situations (not the best for sharing for instance).

Also well worth considering are the various VGs I think. The bat versions (with the possible exception of the glass one) can be a challenge, perhaps best to stick with more conventional designs at first (although a vape you can 'sanitize' completely in solvents is a nice feature for some). Some look very much like conventional tobacco pipes. They hare heated with a butane lighter (you heat a heat exchanger block inside, most feel there's no evil 'butane fumes' involved although some find the fire part a problem). The trade off is you can explore vaping in all it's glory this way since you have much more control of the heat than with MFLB.

You've got a lot to learn about different extraction temperatures (it can control the 'fractions' of active chemicals you draw off, like making different fuels from crude oil). VGs with their wider working temperature range lets you explore from 'wonderful flavor, but little or no high' right on through 'couch lock'.

IMO if you want to learn what vaping is all about VG is a better call. If you want to kick back and vape another load, MFLB might work out better. But I think you should also check out VG......not to worry MF will still be here when you decide to explore that (a real man needs at least one back up vape you know....). No special battery issues, you can even use a Bic lighter in an emergeny.....

Good luck, hard to go wrong with informed choices really.

OF-

Thanks a lot. What's more outstanding than my attitude is how willing you guys are to help the newbie. So far I've really liked what I've read. I was considering a VaporGenie( that may be the VG you kept eluding to, these acronyms are still new to me.). So I've decided to hybridize yours and escierdanyc's advice. Although the MFLB is what piqued my interest initially, it'll always be there to come back after I'm done getting my feet wet in the whole vaping scene. Plus, like you said, should have a back-up available. Thanks again.

 

[axakal]

the lotus vaporizer could also be a good choice. i don't own one myself, yet, but judging by all the positive impressions in the lotus thread, you should think about checking it out. provided you have the necessary money, since it's more expensive than the VG. however, still affordable, if you ask me.

I was considering a VaporGenie( that may be the VG you kept eluding to, these acronyms are still new to me.). So I've decided to hybridize yours and escierdanyc's advice. Although the MFLB is what piqued my interest initially, it'll always be there to come back after I'm done getting my feet wet in the whole vaping scene. Plus, like you said, should have a back-up available. Thanks again.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Peep the Arizer Solo thread too if you haven't already. Reliable unit.

 

[Darkedhunter]

Probably a little late to the party, but I just got my concentrate trays! Haven't had the opportunity to try them out yet, and I have a quick question before I do. Is the tray without the mesh is suitable for any type of concentrate? Let's say I had some wand buildup handy from my underdog...

Also was gifted a maple stem; what a lovely change in pace.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Probably a little late to the party, but I just got my concentrate trays! Haven't had the opportunity to try them out yet, and I have a quick question before I do. Is the tray without the mesh is suitable for any type of concentrate? Let's say I had some wand buildup handy from my underdog...

Also was gifted a maple stem; what a lovely change in pace.

Yeah, I use the screen tray for full-melt goodness like quality BHO and CO2 oil, and the naked blank tray is for everything else that has particulate.

 

[Farid]

Just wanted to say how impressed with the Magic Flight I am. I got one in 2009, and I used it for a solid three years before I traded it for a few grams of BHO. I've owned many portables since, but I just traded my T1 for another Lanch box. I have to say I miss the efficiency that the convection/conduction hybrid gives. I still own convection vapes for when I'm using recreationally, but for a medical user on the go, the magic flight is the only portable for flowers I've tried that doesn't waste time and can be used anywhere. The only other products I've used that come close in that respect are designed for concentrates.

Not to mention the company's customer service is incredible - hands down the best company I've dealt with. I sent them a mere inquiry about a product, and they were kind enough to send me a box for free. Totally wasn't expecting it, but I'm thrilled.

Note: The LB works perfectly for my condition (partial complex seizures) because its' conduction allows for a deep extraction of a small quantity of material. For someone who needs more THC and less deep actives other vaporizers may be more practical, but the SOLO just didn't cut it for me, as I need one deep hit every few hours rather than a full session.

 

[bench88]

What's the best deal for the MFLB water pipe adapter? Is there a tutorial about how to make my own?
thanks!!

 

[axakal]

yesterday i was returning home late at night. the last tram was late as usual, when it's windy, rainy, cold and almost nowhere to hide. then i remembered to have the mflb in one of my pockets. it's so light weight, you sometimes forget that you got it with you. anyway, i went a couple of meters away from the other waiting person, turned my back to him and took a couple of hits. what a pleasant way of warming up in adverse weather conditions

 

[DasBlunt]

Bumping the best true vaporizer, Magic Flight. Man this forum has been overrun with crap electronics with a highlight on evolving innovative LED lights.

When you combust, you are not vaporizing. Looking at the ABV photos, there is a boatload of combustion going on and no one I see is calling it out.

peace out…

 

[Vicki]

Bumping the best true vaporizer, Magic Flight. Man this forum has been overrun with crap electronics with a highlight on evolving innovative LED lights.

When you combust, you are not vaporizing. Looking at the ABV photos, there is a boatload of combustion going on and no one I see is calling it out.

peace out…

If people were combusting, their leftover material would be black and ash.

 

[vapirtoo]

Hey I feel you DAS, but Vicki is right about the ash and black ABV. I feel many of our members have
become dazzeled by the lights, but that's their choice.
I just got some Glyphs and they fit nice and snug in my box which was reamed by the
banana plug on the beta power adapter. Nice to be off the cord and back to total vape
freedom eventhough these new Glyphs seem just a tad weaker then the old beta ones.
They still do a wonderful job, and I'm back to vaping in the great outdoors.
My high always felt stronger outdoors then in my garage or basement with the exhaust fan on.