The Magic-Flight Box

[Vicki]

It will not loosen up in time if the spring is seriously misaligned. I tried using a flathead screwdriver to move it, but to no avail.

I will process this as a warranty. When I get my new one, I will be glad to sell this at a fantastic price (serial # scratched off). Then someone here can struggle with it and "loosen it up in time."

A new product should not be like this. Obviously, this was not inspected prior to shipment.

No worries though. I am sure MF will stand by their product. I just hate being without my precious box. I feel naked.

Peace

You really shouldn't sell it after MF has done a warranty on it.

 

[kente777]

You really shouldn't sell it after MF has done a warranty on it.

Thanks, wasn't aware of the policy. Don't want to undermine a great company.

 

[Rusty778]

Thanks, wasn't aware of the policy. Don't want to undermine a great company.

Look carefully at the battery insertion hole. I find that on most boxes, the spring does not protrude evenly all the way around on the inside. This means that the spring + wood is what is crating a contact. Rather than modifying the spring, consider sanding away a small amount of wood. One of my boxes was far too tight, and this remedied it immediately.

 

[kente777]

Look carefully at the battery insertion hole. I find that on most boxes, the spring does not protrude evenly all the way around on the inside. This means that the spring + wood is what is crating a contact. Rather than modifying the spring, consider sanding away a small amount of wood. One of my boxes was far too tight, and this remedied it immediately.

After I get my replacement, I will give that a try if the company doesn't want me to ship it back.

I appreciate the advice, I really do, but I should not have to shave wood on a new product to get it to work. In my opinion this is poor QC, and I will let the company know.

I love Magic-flight. I love their product, their philosophy, their attitude, and their spirituality! However, I recommend they check their product first before putting it in a box for shipment especially for something that seems to happen semi-frequently.

 

[OF]

Thanks, wasn't aware of the policy. Don't want to undermine a great company.

Actually, it's more a matter of ethics I think? Selling the unit you had replaced would not be legal no matter, it doesn't belong to you any longer.

And practicality. MF will ask for a photo showing you've destroyed the screen section. I guess too many dishonest folks resold defective boxes (which sure doesn't help their 'bottom line')?

However, I recommend they check their product first before putting it in a box for shipment especially for something that seems to happen semi-frequently.

By all means do point out what you see as their shortcomings. Their perspective might not be the same, however.

Good luck with it.

OF

 

[kente777]

Actually, it's more a matter of ethics I think? Selling the unit you had replaced would not be legal no matter, it doesn't belong to you any longer.

And practicality. MF will ask for a photo showing you've destroyed the screen section. I guess too many dishonest folks resold defective boxes (which sure doesn't help their 'bottom line')?



By all means do point out what you see as their shortcomings. Their perspective might not be the same, however.

Good luck with it.

OF

I'll let you guys know if their perspective is not mine.

I've only owned 2 so far. One great; the other defective. 1 for 2 might be good in baseball, but.... Anyway, I just ordered a new Cherry box so I'm hoping it'll be 2 for 3 on the positive side.

 

[pakalolo]

I will process this as a warranty. When I get my new one, I will be glad to sell this at a fantastic price (serial # scratched off). Then someone here can struggle with it and "loosen it up in time."

Mentioning that you plan to sell something is against our rules:

• No selling or soliciting items on the forum. The only exception is the Classifieds section, which is the only public area on the forum where you can mention that you have (or may have) items for sale or trade. It is also the only public area where you can request to buy items. If you would like to direct a member to a classified ad please use the private conversation system.

Note the underlined part. This is an easy mistake to make, so you're excused this time—but now you know. As others have pointed out, your plan was both unethical and illegal anyway.

 

[Rusty778]

I appreciate the advice, I really do, but I should not have to shave wood on a new product to get it to work. In my opinion this is poor QC, and I will let the company know.

Keep in mind that MF has to allow for different diameters of battery tolerances, if the fit is not "snug" no power will flow through the screen. For instance, the old PowerEx's that used to ship with the box are slightly larger then the new glyph batteries, and both in my opinion are larger than the power adapter's dummy battery body. So every box needs to accommodate a wide variety of sizes, better to be a little too small, and remain functional, then to be too large and not work at all.

 

[the_cascadian]

here's a method i like to use when my lungs are tired of slowly pulling on the box like it's a too-frozen milkshake through a straw: open the lid, crank the pa on 100%, and draw. works like a charm!

 

[kente777]

Mentioning that you plan to sell something is against our rules:

• No selling or soliciting items on the forum. The only exception is the Classifieds section, which is the only public area on the forum where you can mention that you have (or may have) items for sale or trade. It is also the only public area where you can request to buy items. If you would like to direct a member to a classified ad please use the private conversation system.

Note the underlined part. This is an easy mistake to make, so you're excused this time—but now you know. As others have pointed out, your plan was both unethical and illegal anyway.

I do appreciate you bringing this up, and I seem to remember reading that from Magic Flight, though I had forgotten. I was actually half joking since I was told to force something that would not go with a prophetic word that "it will loosen up."

Keep in mind that MF has to allow for different diameters of battery tolerances, if the fit is not "snug" no power will flow through the screen. For instance, the old PowerEx's that used to ship with the box are slightly larger then the new glyph batteries, and both in my opinion are larger than the power adapter's dummy battery body. So every box needs to accommodate a wide variety of sizes, better to be a little too small, and remain functional, then to be too large and not work at all.

This is well beyond snug. Different tolerances? Sure. But you would think the tolerance would center on their own gryphon batteries. I'm afraid I'll bust the battery that's how tight it is...or bust my teeth trying to pull it out. Lol

 

[KidFated.]

I've had over 10 different boxes through my hands, and zero had any issues.

Hell, I've sent out bad parts by mistake, it happens. What matters is they will always take care of their customer no matter what.

 

[kente777]

This is well beyond snug. I'm afraid I'll bust the battery that's how tight it is...or bust my teeth trying to pull it out. Lol

I've had over 10 different boxes through my hands, and zero had any issues.

Hell, I've sent out bad parts by mistake, it happens. What matters is they will always take care of their customer no matter what.

I agree. I had a bad power adapter and they took care of it. Great process!

I just don't like the fact that I cannot use a product that I purchased and bought as a back-up, only to find when I need it, it's not up to standards.

This problem seems to be common. Maybe some units will "loosen up" over time, but as often as this seems to be happening, it tells me their QC process is not that great.

This box, as is, should have never left the factory.

 

[RUDE BOY]

Kente777 If you can fit the battery through the ring now even if its a little tough to pull out to do for now it will loosen up after a dozen or two trenches. One of my maple boxes was like yours even to the point of the pushback ring being useless at first( battery remaining engaged until pullin it) now it's fine.

Use that box enough to break it in for goodness sake, it's brand new.

 

[pakalolo]

I do appreciate you bringing this up, and I seem to remember reading that from Magic Flight, though I had forgotten. I was actually half joking since I was told to force something that would not go with a prophetic word that "it will loosen up."

The contact coil is a heavy gauge wire that should barely protrude into the battery hole, and then only in one place. It should be easy to see exactly where by carefully examining the coil inside the battery hole. There'll be a place that has obviously more wear than the rest of the ring; that is the contact point. From your description, this part of the coil is protruding too far. You can use this information to help you decide how to shift the coil. The slightest of nudges should be enough. If you actually do move the coil, it's possible that you'll over-correct and push the contact point back so far that it won't be a contact point anymore. On the other hand, shifting the coil like that could easily bring another contact point into play.

This problem seems to be common. Maybe some units will "loosen up" over time, but as often as this seems to be happening, it tells me their QC process is not that great.

I've read this thread from beginning to end (more than once) and I don't think this is a common problem at all. It's not unique but it certainly isn't common.

 

[kente777]

Kente777 If you can fit the battery through the ring now even if its a little tough to pull out to do for now it will loosen up after a dozen or two trenches. One of my maple boxes was like yours even to the point of the pushback ring being useless at first( battery remaining engaged until pullin it) now it's fine.

Use that box enough to break it in for goodness sake, it's brand new.

Sigh. I've had a new Magic Flight box before. And it's not a "little tough" either.

The contact coil is a heavy gauge wire that should barely protrude into the battery hole, and then only in one place. It should be easy to see exactly where by carefully examining the coil inside the battery hole. There'll be a place that has obviously more wear than the rest of the ring; that is the contact point. From your description, this part of the coil is protruding too far. You can use this information to help you decide how to shift the coil. The slightest of nudges should be enough. If you actually do move the coil, it's possible that you'll over-correct and push the contact point back so far that it won't be a contact point anymore. On the other hand, shifting the coil like that could easily bring another contact point into play.



I've read this thread from beginning to end (more than once) and I don't think this is a common problem at all. It's not unique but it certainly isn't common.

"Not unique, but it certainly isn't common."

I'll accept that, though I found 2 instances on other forums describing the exact problem.

And thank you for "listening" to my words and giving me good advice.

 

[pakalolo]

"Not unique, but it certainly isn't common."

I'll accept that, though I found 2 instances on other forums describing the exact problem.

And thank you for "listening" to my words and giving me good advice.

You're welcome. I just merged your last two posts. (Again. )

There probably more MFLBs out there than any other vapourizer, so it's not surprising that you found a couple of other examples.

 

[RUDE BOY]

And thank you for "listening" to my words and giving me good advice.

We did "Listen" and share our experiences and what worked for us. Go ahead and warranty your box if you desire no one here is stopping you.

 

[OF]

"Use that box enough to break it in for goodness sake, it's brand new."

You did not. In fact your last statement was rather condescending. Perhaps you should change your user name?

I disagree, I think he did share out experience here. He's not the only guy to tell you 'it's normal for them to be tight, use it some it'll loosen up.

IMO you just don't want to hear that, which is fine I guess. I too encourage you to warranty exchange the box or whatever makes you happy.

The advice you asked for stands, though.

OF

 

[RUDE BOY]

Kente777 If you can fit the battery through the ring now even if its a little tough to pull out to do for now it will loosen up after a dozen or two trenches. One of my maple boxes was like yours even to the point of the pushback ring being useless at first( battery remaining engaged until pullin it) now it's fine.

This here is my experience. 8 boxes bought, one with a very tight battery retention ring/spring that was a pita for two days. 4 years later the battry falls out if you don't hold it in.

My advice was plainly stated I thought but: @kente777

I would recommend you use your box for a dozen or two sessions and if your not happy with it after that send it back for a new one.

I wasn't workin' in Butthead mode yet !

 

[kente777]

This here is my experience. 8 boxes bought, one with a very tight battery retention ring/spring that was a pita for two days. 4 years later the battry falls out if you don't hold it in.

My advice was plainly stated I thought but: @kente777

I would recommend you use your box for a dozen or two sessions and if your not happy with it after that send it back for a new one.

I wasn't workin' in Butthead mode yet !

Np. May I suggest you lose the sarcasm next time? Please?

Thanks

 

[RUDE BOY]

Ok yours is unique ! Sorry about that.

 

[kente777]

Ok yours is unique ! Sorry about that.

Lol. Thanks

 

[KidFated.]

Just cleaned my room and found two batteries

 

[OF]

Just cleaned my room and found two batteries

Please come clean mine, bet you find more......

OF

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Please come clean mine, bet you find more......

OF

So about your stash...