The Magic-Flight Box
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kente777
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Got my new MFLB last night and used throughout today. I really like this vape. Here are my thoughts:
1) Love the design (especially the small size), and yes, I do believe love is greater than fear!
2) Hate the O ring. Took it out immediately...much easier to use. Just can't forget to pull it out a bit after each draw. lol
3) Native or stem, the ease of draw blows my Solo out of the water.
4) The fact that it is almost instant vaporization means I only use herb when I am drawing. I like this -- means I should conserve more product.
5) This vape seems to need a bit drier herb than the other vapes I've used. Herb was ground up using the finishing grinder.
***Anyone have any tips to dry out your herb? How bout a dehydrater?
6) I did experience a little combustion after taking 3 quick, successive draws. I was a bit surprised by this, and went back to slower, longer draws.
So far I am very pleased. Glad to be a part of this community.
Ken
1) Love the design (especially the small size), and yes, I do believe love is greater than fear!
2) Hate the O ring. Took it out immediately...much easier to use. Just can't forget to pull it out a bit after each draw. lol
3) Native or stem, the ease of draw blows my Solo out of the water.
4) The fact that it is almost instant vaporization means I only use herb when I am drawing. I like this -- means I should conserve more product.
5) This vape seems to need a bit drier herb than the other vapes I've used. Herb was ground up using the finishing grinder.
***Anyone have any tips to dry out your herb? How bout a dehydrater?
6) I did experience a little combustion after taking 3 quick, successive draws. I was a bit surprised by this, and went back to slower, longer draws.
So far I am very pleased. Glad to be a part of this community.
Ken
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
I leave my goodies out overnight on a piece of clean paper. Seems to be enough for me, in the morning the flower is notably less moist.
GenYHippie
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Hey all 
. I mentioned this in my MJ Journey thread but I figure here it will get more input. Anyone here use low temps and/or have low tolerance use the MFLB? I keep coming back around to it as a "purse vape" no matter how many other models I look at. I need something compact, butane/flame free, and on the lower end of the price range which it fits very well.
My concern is learing to control the temp. Most How To's on it say to go by visual (the wisps of vape in the chamber area) but I rarely see whisps or clouds in my solo so I don't think I can rely on that. The solo is great and I love the accuracy but its not a "quit hit while im out" vape.
Now that im finding daytime strains im getting frustrated with carrying a bigger purse and having to wrap/pad it up safe. Im getting relief from MJ and want to be able to enjoy it outside my house in a bit more stealth. Is it possible for a low tolerance and temp user (usually do two hits at a time on level 2 solo) to use the MFLB without constantly getting overly medicated?
. I mentioned this in my MJ Journey thread but I figure here it will get more input. Anyone here use low temps and/or have low tolerance use the MFLB? I keep coming back around to it as a "purse vape" no matter how many other models I look at. I need something compact, butane/flame free, and on the lower end of the price range which it fits very well.My concern is learing to control the temp. Most How To's on it say to go by visual (the wisps of vape in the chamber area) but I rarely see whisps or clouds in my solo so I don't think I can rely on that. The solo is great and I love the accuracy but its not a "quit hit while im out" vape.
Now that im finding daytime strains im getting frustrated with carrying a bigger purse and having to wrap/pad it up safe. Im getting relief from MJ and want to be able to enjoy it outside my house in a bit more stealth. Is it possible for a low tolerance and temp user (usually do two hits at a time on level 2 solo) to use the MFLB without constantly getting overly medicated?
OF
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I left my goodies out once, I was kinda drunk. It didn't work out well and had to spend the night with some very unpleasant people and talk to the judge about it the next day. I take it he hears about that kind of stuff a lot, he had some pretty firm ideas on the matter.
I don't drink any more.
OF
horst
horsed
Hey all
My concern is learing to control the temp. Most How To's on it say to go by visual (the wisps of vape in the chamber area) but I rarely see whisps or clouds in my solo so I don't think I can rely on that. The solo is great and I love the accuracy but its not a "quit hit while im out" vape.
Now that im finding daytime strains im getting frustrated with carrying a bigger purse and having to wrap/pad it up safe. Im getting relief from MJ and want to be able to enjoy it outside my house in a bit more stealth. Is it possible for a low tolerance and temp user (usually do two hits at a time on level 2 solo) to use the MFLB without constantly getting overly medicated?
Hi GenYHippie,
maybe we have the same low tolerance. I use my MFLB since nearly a full year now and can fully recommend it to low dose users. I have no experiences with other vaporizers but with the MFLB i switched from only combustion to only MFLB in no time.
I highly recommend the finishing grinder and super dry herbs. I load a trench with around 0.2g herb and hit it as followed:
5 seconds pre heat, 5 seconds very slow straw with not fully closed lips on stem and still pressed battery, and then another 5 seconds without the battery just soaking up the steam left.
With this technique my trench lasts for 14-18 hits where 2 hits in a row medicate me nicely for 2 hours. i usually dont exceed 4 hits a day and dont toke every day. a trench usually last for a week, minimum a half.
The amount of hits seem to depend on the quality of my weed. Good homegrown with intense care raised and lovely cured buds last 18 hits. Average Commercial Weed tends to last 14 hits.
The first 4 hits are very intensive and tastefully but low on vapor.
The hits between 5 and 10 are nearly tasteless but hit as intense as the first, slightly more vapor.
Hits 11 to 18 getting harsher in taste, approaching the burned popcorn taste, slightly decreasing medication but more vapor.
As you can see, my tolerance seems pretty low but maybe it helps you to compare it to your Solo Experience.
For me the MFLB was a game changer. Coming from combustion in type of tobacco mixed sticks, the MFLB was my way out of this awful tobacco addiction without the need to give up the lovely herb. This alone is still making me speechless at times, plus the benefits in terms of better taste and more efficience usage of the herb equals in the perfect tiny stealth toking device which i fell in love with.
Greetings from Germany
horst
Hey all
My concern is learing to control the temp. Most How To's on it say to go by visual (the wisps of vape in the chamber area) but I rarely see whisps or clouds in my solo so I don't think I can rely on that. The solo is great and I love the accuracy but its not a "quit hit while im out" vape.
Now that im finding daytime strains im getting frustrated with carrying a bigger purse and having to wrap/pad it up safe. Im getting relief from MJ and want to be able to enjoy it outside my house in a bit more stealth. Is it possible for a low tolerance and temp user (usually do two hits at a time on level 2 solo) to use the MFLB without constantly getting overly medicated?
I'm a low temperature/low tolerance guy and I love my LBs. If you have experience with vapourizing then you should be able to master the LB quickly. I don't think I ever relied on watching for the vapour, although perhaps I did the first couple of times. I found that it didn't take long to learn how to judge by taste and temperature. The worst part of the learning experience is actually reaching combustion, because the LB will taste awful for a few loads afterwards. The taste does go away eventually.
axakal
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from my recent experience, 5sec steps could be a touch too long sometimes. it depends on the battery in case, of course. with a fully loaded glyph, 5sec preheat followed by a 5sec slow draw would definitely take me to combustion.
it depends on the battery in case, of course. with a fully loaded glyph, 5sec preheat followed by a 5sec slow draw would definitely take me to combustion.
KidFated.
Unknown Member
I dunno about you guys but 5 seconds with zero draw would be some insane charting in mine, and i haven't cleaned them ever.. Its like 2 second heat up and micro draws to control temp. Usually gotta draw about 2 seconds after to get the remaining vapor that's around thelid.
Mr Mellish
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Wow. I heat for 8-10, draw for 12-13, then pull the battery and go another 2-3 seconds. That gets me 10-12 hits. Guess I'll try backing off a bit when I get home. This is with glyphs that are only a few months old.
kente777
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And you don't ever combust using this technique?
Mr Mellish
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No. Only combusted once, when I first got it several years ago. Heard someone coming and tossed the thing with the battery still in place.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
It depends on both battery like you said, and each person's Launch Box. They tend to break in as I'm sure you know, so maybe that's why he can hold it for 5 seconds. I think 5 seconds on mind would be approaching combustion, but then it also depends on how moist the material is.from my recent experience, 5sec steps could be a touch too long sometimes.
Welcome to the party @horst, glad to hear you were able to quit combusting and tobacco
axakal
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Mr Mellish
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It's a miracle then
I'll alert the Vatican! Maybe mine needs a thorough cleaning, or would that make it hotter?
If it works for you and you're happy with your timings, why would you change anything?
OF
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Listen to the man, he is wise.
Don't let some random net.guys convince you you're not happy when you are.
OF
GenYHippie
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Horst - Wow thanks for all the detail that very helpful. I hadn't considered the moisture content of the bud before im glad you pointed that out. Till yesterday when I opened some of my new bud they had all has very similar springy sticky consistency not much variation but the big bud I ground is extremely crisp by compare.
Im going to go google and see if I can find a video with a visual compare of the finishing grinder. Turning mine upside down gets it pretty fine but better safe than sorry. Yes your experience with how long a trench last helps me a lot. A light load in my solo lasts around 4 days if im using multiple times a day so we do sound very similar.
BTW if you don't mine me asking where about from Germany? My brother has lived there over a decade now but my health has never allowed me to travel there.
Im still new to vape and bud but ive gotten the hang of the solo for basic use. Oh yeah combust would be bad with my asthma. Have you tried vaping mint or something to get the taste out faster?
It depends on both battery like you said, and each person's Launch Box. They tend to break in as I'm sure you know, so maybe that's why he can hold it for 5 seconds. I think 5 seconds on mind would be approaching combustion, but then it also depends on how moist the material is.
Welcome to the party @horst, glad to hear you were able to quit combusting and tobacco
Since you mention it are there some batteries you recommend for a light user? Something that doesn't discharge to quick just sitting in my purse for a bit? Great to know about the "wear in" period as well. Id rather go light than combust for sure. I know most people hate the O ring but for little micro pulses it seems like leaving it in might work for me? With my joints im not the most nimble so im afraid I might not be able to break battery contact ne handed.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Sure thing @GenYHippie. You'll want to be looking for a type of battery called "LSD" 'which stands for "low self-discharge." It's exactly what it sounds like, a battery that has a low self-discharge. The batteries that provide more "oomph" are called HSD batteries, short for high self-discharge. LSD batteries will retain something like 80% total charge after a year on the shelf, but with HSD batteries you can expect them to self-drain much quicker, noticeable within a week of no use. I believe the Eneloop AA's are still good, you'll want minimum 2000mAh to work with the Launch Box. You'll also have to peel the wrappers off the batteries so that the metal body is exposed; this ensures that the ring inside of the battery port in your LB makes contact with the battery body (this is the negative terminal in this vaporizer).
kente777
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Lol. They didn't smell anything?
GenYHippie
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Hahaha the irony of that acronym on a MJ board
. Wow yea big difference in the LSD vs the HSD. I remember seeing tha name Eneloop before I thought I had saved some of those to my amazon cart but I couldn't find them, going to go find some to look at. Thank you for the specifics im getting better with the shorthand int he MJ community but the gear is a whole other realm im still learning.Thanks for the not on the wrapper. Does that effect anything other than aesthetics I should know about?
ETA: If its higher than 2000mAh is that an issue?
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
No problem, I was there once too and the greats like Vito and OF and the rest of the gang helped ease me into itHahaha the irony of that acronym on a MJ board
Thanks for the not on the wrapper. Does that effect anything other than aesthetics I should know about?
The only real risk with peeling batteries is that since you're exposing the whole body of the battery, it's much easier to cause an unintended short-circuit. Don't do stuff like, say, put a peeled battery with no protection (like those rubber caps MF gives you) into your pocket or purse where it might come into contact with other metallic objects like keys, coins, etc. That's a surefire way to cause a critical battery failure, and when that happens they have a tendency to get extremely hot and vent acid so they don't explode. Simple enough fix for that is to use the battery caps over the positive end (with the nipple) and then you won't be able to complete a circuit, or use the battery cases where you can store 2-4 batteries in them. For what it's worth, @OF loves using some small dram vials to keep metered amounts of flower in, the right size (I believe 1 dram?) will fit in an AA slot, so simple enough to throw 3 AA's in and a little dram with flower. If you don't have battery cases and don't want to purchase any, shoot me a PM with your address, I've got 3 or 4 of them and only use 1, it wouldn't be a problem mailing one out to ya (free of charge)
GenYHippie
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No problem, I was there once too and the greats like Vito and OF and the rest of the gang helped ease me into it
The only real risk with peeling batteries is that since you're exposing the whole body of the battery, it's much easier to cause an unintended short-circuit. Don't do stuff like, say, put a peeled battery with no protection (like those rubber caps MF gives you) into your pocket or purse where it might come into contact with other metallic objects like keys, coins, etc. That's a surefire way to cause a critical battery failure, and when that happens they have a tendency to get extremely hot and vent acid so they don't explode. Simple enough fix for that is to use the battery caps over the positive end (with the nipple) and then you won't be able to complete a circuit, or use the battery cases where you can store 2-4 batteries in them. For what it's worth, @OF loves using some small dram vials to keep metered amounts of flower in, the right size (I believe 1 dram?) will fit in an AA slot, so simple enough to throw 3 AA's in and a little dram with flower. If you don't have battery cases and don't want to purchase any, shoot me a PM with your address, I've got 3 or 4 of them and only use 1, it wouldn't be a problem mailing one out to ya (free of charge)
I feel so fortunate to have had such good experiances int he MJ world online, in dispensaries, on the phone everyone has been very kind to me
. Thanks for the safey tip im assuming the MFLB comes with caps for its batters I would just need extras for whatever I buy? Thanks so much for the offer I will likely hit you up once I place my MFLB order. So kind of you to offer but id happy pay Also here is what I found real quick after browsing the MFLB tips page and amazon -
http://www.amazon.com/Capacity-Pre-...sition/dp/B009LU9150/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
http://www.amazon.com/Imedion-2400m...4-Pack/dp/B003LWMZ5M/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Will using the higher 2400 cause change the heating or do they just give a longer life to the battery?