The Magic-Flight Box

[schmokinVapes]

Yeah, I wasn't happy when I saw the track either. Hopefully they are wrong.

I do use my batteries, situations like being in the yard or being in bed, etc. I love the car adapter too.

So going back to batteries after using PA isn't bad? I have 4x 2400, I should look in to the Powerex. I usually use the volcano in bed though and plan on using the PA at desk, etc.

 

[VapingLobster]

They don't come with Powerex (rather, LSD Imedion 2400's I believe?), but your use sounds heavy if you're draining them 4 times a day. I think you need to invest in the power adapter and get infinite power. I know it sounds like a sales pitch, but adjustable power from just about 0 vapor up to "combustion-in-5-seconds" high if you want/like a fast draw. It IS $60 so it's an investment for sure, but IMO it's already paid itself off for me since I got it ~1.5 months ago.

You're doing a full cycle on the batteries from charged to near-dead I assume, I remember reading a long time ago most batteries are rated for 500 cycles before they start to degrade, so at 4x a day, that 500 charges is achieved in 125 days, if not less... see where I'm going with this?

I also think maybe you need a different vaporizer, although that's almost the equivalent of heresy around these parts are stealth and portability major factors? Have you considered a desktop vaporizer like the Extreme Q or an Underdog? Possibly even a Pax?

Oh I thought they came with powerex, haha oh well. I ordered it off Amazon and for some reason my batteries that came looked different from my friends...aside from that they worked fine.

That makes sense, I figured I just cycled them too many times. I believe the batteries the mflb came with were LSD? The HSD Sonys I used later were MUCH better and held their charge MUCH longer.

Actually I have a PA, I ordered it about 2 weeks ago. I was just asking about the batteries because I'd still like it to be portable sometimes when I go out.

As far as other vapes go I have a Da Buddha and a PD but I got the MFLB to try and limit my consumption more. Unfortunately that hasn't really been working out.

 

[pakalolo]

Oh I thought they came with powerex, haha oh well. I ordered it off Amazon and for some reason my batteries that came looked different from my friends...aside from that they worked fine.

That makes sense, I figured I just cycled them too many times. I believe the batteries the mflb came with were LSD? The HSD Sonys I used later were MUCH better and held their charge MUCH longer.

Actually I have a PA, I ordered it about 2 weeks ago. I was just asking about the batteries because I'd still like it to be portable sometimes when I go out.

As far as other vapes go I have a Da Buddha and a PD but I got the MFLB to try and limit my consumption more. Unfortunately that hasn't really been working out.

They do come with Powerex. The brand name is Powerex, their LSD 2400s are called Imedions.

Were you using a rapid charger? That'll shorten battery life. Other than that, Quetzalcoatl is right about the number of cycles.

 

[Lo]

I've had batteries that just didn't seem to work as they used to that I've popped into my Maha 9000 charger using the refresh/analyze feature - brings them back way better than the stock MF charger IMHO.

 

[GOATPUSSY]

I've used powerex, PEARSTONES, imedions, energizers, duracells, tenergy and the life will degrade after a while. I had pretty good luck in the past few months by not letting them fully drain (cycling them with freshly charged ones) and by not using a rapid charger.

Find that once you fully drain them, they don't seem to work as well.

 

[willieR]

All batteries will poop eventually. Even identical batteries will behave differently. One Powerex might last a year, and another starts loosing charge capacity after three months. Battery technology is surprisingly primitive still.

 

[UpUpandAway]

I received my Zebrawood MFLB stem from Ed's TNT; it's DY-NO-MITE! I think it adds a nice finishing touch to the look of the LB. Thanks, Ed!

On a separate note, the PA rules. Again, an amazing marriage of form and function by the folks at Magic Flight. I love how the look of the PA complements the "vibe" of the box. Add temperature control and a car adapter and you get a pretty rad power setup for the LB. Those guys know what they're doing.

 

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[UpUpandAway]

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D'oh! Okay, hopefully this one works:

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

D'oh! Okay, hopefully this one works:

Oh snap, 75-85% range. It runs a nice warm but it'll backfire on you if you're not paying attention! I usually start at the 50% and in fact I can kill trenches at this temp, but I always end the trench at a similar power.

Pretty effin' sweet, huh?

 

[UpUpandAway]

Oh snap, 75-85% range. It runs a nice warm but it'll backfire on you if you're not paying attention! I usually start at the 50% and in fact I can kill trenches at this temp, but I always end the trench at a similar power.

Pretty effin' sweet, huh?

Haha, just noticed that. I usually start at 50% too and then crank it up by the end of the session.

Out of curiosity, I turned it up to 11 once. I've been practicing pyronym's technique, but the highest setting was too advanced for me. Oh no, combustion!

Oh well, now I know and knowing is half the battle...

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

My OEM batteries lasted almost a year. That was just (2) batteries and I didn't use my PA much for that 1st year, since I was on the move so much... my box was generally on the go.

I'm rather disappointed with the PA also. My first unit is an early one, before the dial was marked. It died completely about a month ago. It had the common problem, of not making good contact. I received a newer one, that works... but it also started to rapidly degrade in its ability to vape a trench. My batteries at 1.38 volt charge can and will go 3-4 trenches. I can set the PA for 1.45 and it barely lights the light and hardly vapes.

Since I just got 4 new Imedions and they actually work well, with my glass pieces, better than the PA. My PA is pretty much useless.

 

[kingofnull]

That stem looks nice. God I'd love a dark stained MFLB.

 

[Stu]

I'm giving my LB some love tonight. I gave the Cloud the night off and am rockin' it old school this evening.

I had almost forgotten how faded this little box can get you.

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Well, if I can find the setting somewhere in the 70% range, I can recreate the vape from the batteries with the PA, though its a blow to my efficiency so far. Have to find that happy medium between heat, draw and vapor. Its a pretty good setting for milking the Saxo though.

 

[magicflight]

... PA... Have to find that happy medium between heat, draw and vapor...

Hi,

Also, one thing you might need to check is to ensure that the PA is making good contact when inserted in the battery hole. If the PA is not making good contact, particularly at the negative contact ring (on the side of the PA where it goes into the Box), this can decrease heating performance. With the Box empty/open, the PA at full power, and the button pressed on, does the brightness of the light change if you move the back end of the PA side to side or up and down? If so, the contact right may need to be tightened on the Box.

-- Magic-Flight

 

[willieR]

I agree, something is wrong. The PA will ignite material, so no lack of horsepower.

 

[schmokinVapes]

I got my PA & WPA yesterday. The PA just TRANSFORMS this thing having that constant power and not having to juggle batteries. It makes it truly an amazing desktop vape, but still great portability with batteries if you need. Adding the WPA to it is just insane. So glad I made these purchases. Magic-Flight makes such a great product which is supported by great people. If anyone is on the fence about buying either of those accessories just do it! You won't regret it. I love this thing!

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Hi,

Also, one thing you might need to check is to ensure that the PA is making good contact when inserted in the battery hole. If the PA is not making good contact, particularly at the negative contact ring (on the side of the PA where it goes into the Box), this can decrease heating performance. With the Box empty/open, the PA at full power, and the button pressed on, does the brightness of the light change if you move the back end of the PA side to side or up and down? If so, the contact right may need to be tightened on the Box.

-- Magic-Flight

Yeah, its probably this. I just had to adjust it a while ago, as it wasn't making any contact. I made a small circular tool, out of a coat hangar section, that allows me to apply more equal pressure around the ground ring.

I'll give it another shot.

My original PA, is kaput dead. No voltage readings at all.

Thanks, for the input. I was a little discouraged yesterday, having to spend $240 on a radiator replacement, that 3 years ago, I could have done on my own in about 30 minutes and for about $100.

EDIT: Oh yeah and the $70 I had to dump on a piece of crap bubbler, because you break it, you buy it (though the guy sold me a different piece and only tacked on $15 for the broken one)

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Yeah, its probably this. I just had to adjust it a while ago, as it wasn't making any contact. I made a small circular tool, out of a coat hangar section, that allows me to apply more equal pressure around the ground ring.

I'll give it another shot.

My original PA, is kaput dead. No voltage readings at all.

Thanks, for the input. I was a little discouraged yesterday, having to spend $240 on a radiator replacement, that 3 years ago, I could have done on my own in about 30 minutes and for about $100.

Hey man, let me know how the tightening affects it. I suspect that this is what's happening with my PA as well. I'm wondering if I should tighten it or not, because the batteries I'm currently using fit snugly. I can't afford to not be able to use these batteries.

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Hey man, let me know how the tightening affects it. I suspect that this is what's happening with my PA as well. I'm wondering if I should tighten it or not, because the batteries I'm currently using fit snugly. I can't afford to not be able to use these batteries.

Yeah, it is going to be a VERY tight fit. I'm going to have to come at it, from a different angle than before.

EDIT: Ugh, not going so well. I need to tighten the free end, which is on the bottom of the box. You have to be VERY careful, as I've discovered... the whole "ring" will shift. I'm assuming too much shift and a connection breaks. Luckily I noticed less than a mm of movement, so I stopped. I wish this damn coat hanger was just a gauge smaller, but I'm afraid then, it won't be strong enough. I've got it a little tighter. It feels snug around the PA, but still not conducting electricity the same as the batteries. In fact, I've had to adjust at least 4 times, to get it to even light up with the PA. Luckily I have 4 batteries, so at least 2 are always charged.

EDIT II: Hmmm... idea. Gonna try something else to brace the ring.

 

[VapingLobster]

So nobody uses their PA at full power? I was going to say I think my box runs cold because even at 100% it doesn't combust if I hold it in for 30 seconds, but it works okay just less hot. It is also less hot than my friend's recently purchased MFLB, even when compared running on batteries.

But regardless I guess I will get to find out for myself soon, the screen on my MFLB just tore a tiny hole...I guess I use it too often. It was beginning to look like it was getting stuck to the metal bars of the trench, I was hoping it just got glued to the bars from the oil build up but it turns out it actually ripped, probably from repeated intense heat exposure...

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

So nobody uses their PA at full power? I was going to say I think my box runs cold because even at 100% it doesn't combust if I hold it in for 30 seconds, but it works okay just less hot. It is also less hot than my friend's recently purchased MFLB, even when compared running on batteries.

But regardless I guess I will get to find out for myself soon, the screen on my MFLB just tore a tiny hole...I guess I use it too often. It was beginning to look like it was getting stuck to the metal bars of the trench, I was hoping it just got glued to the bars from the oil build up but it turns out it actually ripped, probably from repeated intense heat exposure...

Ouch, that might be why yours runs cool. 100% on mine is ridiculous, I can't find the happy medium between draw, vapor, and not combusting. Not worth it IMO, maybe I just haven't developed the proper technique. I'm comfortable up to ~80%.

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Yeah, 100% on mine will waste a trench. Just tried it, so I speak from experience.

 

[willieR]

The metal fabric tearing is a real weakness with this unit. I've gone through a few, but of course MF is very good about replacements. If the fabric gets torn, there's that much less electrical resistance = less heat