Short answer: you can, it's risky, but if you mess it up the warranty protects you. See 5.7 Can the contact coil be safety bent or pushed to be a little tighter?
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Short answer: you can, it's risky, but if you mess it up the warranty protects you. See 5.7 Can the contact coil be safety bent or pushed to be a little tighter?
UncleJunior
Well-Known Member
Hey MFLB just arrived today.
Looks classy... like how small it is. The wood finish is a class act.
It works, I get some thick rips.. only problem is.. the vapor tastes like shit.
I should start by saying I currently use a Buddha as my main vape, and get DELICIOUS thick hits when the knob is between 11:30-1:30.
How do I get the MFLB to give delicious hits?
I've been inhaling a lot faster, not holding the battery in as long... but the hits are still really gross tasting.
And a new development..
The battery now hardly fits... it used to (hours ago) slide in and out easily.. now it needs to be jammed in.. and pulled really hard to get out.
I looked in the battery hole with a light, there's nothing obstructing it.
Looks classy... like how small it is. The wood finish is a class act.
It works, I get some thick rips.. only problem is.. the vapor tastes like shit.
I should start by saying I currently use a Buddha as my main vape, and get DELICIOUS thick hits when the knob is between 11:30-1:30.
How do I get the MFLB to give delicious hits?
I've been inhaling a lot faster, not holding the battery in as long... but the hits are still really gross tasting.
And a new development..
The battery now hardly fits... it used to (hours ago) slide in and out easily.. now it needs to be jammed in.. and pulled really hard to get out.
I looked in the battery hole with a light, there's nothing obstructing it.
OF
Well-Known Member
Howdy again, UJ. As I said over on the LT thread, this is the place for 'Box talk'.
Note the poster above your post? That's Pakalolo, you'll find the link to the excellent Wiki page he created in his .sig. That will answer most if not all the questions you now have and are likely to come up with.
Welcome to the fun, lots of folks love the MFLB. Many of us have several.
OF
Note the poster above your post? That's Pakalolo, you'll find the link to the excellent Wiki page he created in his .sig. That will answer most if not all the questions you now have and are likely to come up with.
Welcome to the fun, lots of folks love the MFLB. Many of us have several.
OF
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Heyo. You don't like the taste of it out of the box? I use it as my daily driver and the hits are incredible! Way way better than anything I ever got out of combustion, for sure. However, seeing that you already had a desktop before coming here, I think possibly you've become accustomed to a range of terpenes based on the temperature? You can get the temp down exactly with a DBV because it has a knob, but not so much with the box... maybe that's causing it? I know that the first three or four hits from the box go from incredible to great, to good, to still tasty, to real bad real fast. I've found that a small water pipe (be it homemade with some tubes and a nug jug like mine, or a bong) helps mask the less pleasant tastes. I'll usually go 4-5 hits with the stem or native (without it), then hook it up to the water pipe to finish it up with some cool long hits. Not always the case as I'm sometimes out and about when I need to use it, and I'll tough it out then, but I've become pretty accustomed to my little setup.
Now as for the batteries, either the battery warped to the point where it became smaller, or the coil somehow loosened up. But.... my bet is that it's just how the batteries are. I've got 4 Powerex 2700's I picked up that I can physically feel that they're not perfectly round. Now, I just stuck the battery into my box, and gave it a bit of a spin, and I can actually feel where it gets tighter due to the shape, and where it gets looser. I got it to stay on the loosest part, and tilted the box sideways.... and almost hit my children with it
I know it sounds weird, I promise I'm not messing with you! This was also very apparent with the stock batteries, at least moreso than with the Powerex.I like to think of it more as a safety feature
UncleJunior
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the responses QF and Quetza.
Yeah the Buddha having the temp gauge really helps. The flavor I'm getting from the MFLB reminds me exactly of the flavor I got from DBV when I first got it and was vaping at the 4-5:00 position and the ceramic heater was blazing bright orange.
But once I started heading down to 12:00 and the heater was a very peaceful, lightly glowing orange the hits started tasting like creme brule. As in fuckin delicious.
No such luck yet with any of the 30+ bowls I've packed in the MFLB.
I don't mean to diss this vape, it works, and is discreet as one could hope... but the hits taste like shit still. Super unpleasant taste.. plus I notice the bowl will because dark brown/almost black in certain places after the first hit.
oh kind of forgot about the battery issue.. haha my main concern right now the naaasty flavor this thing produces.
again, don;t get me wrong.. this vape gets me high. It works. But the excellent flavor has been my favorite part about vaping with the DBV.. and honestly the MFLB tastes worse than smoking pipe resin (only a slight exageration).
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Yeah the Buddha having the temp gauge really helps. The flavor I'm getting from the MFLB reminds me exactly of the flavor I got from DBV when I first got it and was vaping at the 4-5:00 position and the ceramic heater was blazing bright orange.
But once I started heading down to 12:00 and the heater was a very peaceful, lightly glowing orange the hits started tasting like creme brule. As in fuckin delicious.
No such luck yet with any of the 30+ bowls I've packed in the MFLB.
I don't mean to diss this vape, it works, and is discreet as one could hope... but the hits taste like shit still. Super unpleasant taste.. plus I notice the bowl will because dark brown/almost black in certain places after the first hit.
oh kind of forgot about the battery issue.. haha my main concern right now the naaasty flavor this thing produces.
again, don;t get me wrong.. this vape gets me high. It works. But the excellent flavor has been my favorite part about vaping with the DBV.. and honestly the MFLB tastes worse than smoking pipe resin (only a slight exageration).
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Vapenstein1
Member
Thats the problem i think. If you burn it a little its disgusting a lot.
The pulse technique helped me with this. Just take a hit when you see a little vapor forming.
Or try faster and shorter hits for fresh trenches.
I can only compare it to my volcano. The LB is loosing the green taste quicker (first 1-3 hits), but the hits after it always taste good, with a special LB flavour.
Maybe this own taste has something to do with the wood used, looking forward to my maple stem, its ordered and on its way!
OF
Well-Known Member
I think, once again, 'the Sage of the High Desert' has focused in on it. I'm also thinking 'technique' here. How come this one box is behaving so unlike the thousands of others? How many other owners are having problems with 'tasting like shit'? Or burning on the first hit? Time I think to review the basics? Dryness, grind, heat control, shaking the load, draw technique and so on?
Progress is, I think, at hand? Go, Vitolo, go!
OF
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
I don't think we're allowed to ask for beta products here, I've seen a few mod notes on it? Not sure what the policy is.
Anyways they said they hoped to get it into beta phase around the 15th, I wouldn't be surprised if they're holding back for a little bit longer trying to get it as good as it can get.
Anyone wanna throw ideas around? What's it gonna look like? I think it's gonna be some sort of pad that you can set down inside the box...
UncleJunior
Well-Known Member
The bud I use is finely ground up.. remember I use a buddha.. I'm aware of a vaporizers tendency to dislike dank/moister weed and big chunks.
put small amounts of finely ground dry weed in the launch box.. I've tried all different techniques involving holding the battery in and different draw speeds... and still the best flavor I've achieved from the MFLB has been, "unpleasant" at best.
*Note that the same weed tastes perfect when vaped in the Buddha.
OF
Well-Known Member
I'm not sure Buddha taste is an accurate predictor here. They're two different schemes for openers. One has huge reserves of power, the other power starved.
Let's do some basic troubleshooting here, have you tried a different strain of bud? Do you have access to other LB owners and their boxes?
OF
UncleJunior
Well-Known Member
no thats why I'm here haha. my friends who vape own a buddha.. which I thought was so badass I bought one of my own.. and a volcano (I don't own a volcano).
No one I know has a MFLB.. but the reviews I read online were unanimously positive... but I'm pretty disappointed.
I'd be really interested in hearing from launch box owners who also use a Buddha.
And I've used two different strains of bud.. and some keef.. And even the keef tasted nasty.
haha.. and not to keep bragging about the frikken buddha... but keef vaped in the buddha... holy shit, the flavor is orgasmic.
I guess I'm a flavor connoisseur ha
No one I know has a MFLB.. but the reviews I read online were unanimously positive... but I'm pretty disappointed.
I'd be really interested in hearing from launch box owners who also use a Buddha.
And I've used two different strains of bud.. and some keef.. And even the keef tasted nasty.
haha.. and not to keep bragging about the frikken buddha... but keef vaped in the buddha... holy shit, the flavor is orgasmic.
I guess I'm a flavor connoisseur ha
If the grind is fine then the problem is either your technique or the LB itself. There are units that run too hot, so you should check that with this method:
4.16 How can I tell if my Box is running too cool?
If it fails this test, then contact Magic-Flight for a warranty replacement. If it passes, then all I can suggest is that you read 9 Usage & Techniqueand make sure you watch the videos.
ETA: By the way, I buy these days with flavour as the most important criterion. I love my LB and I'm quite sensitive to taste. I can get at least 15 hits from the LB before the flavour starts to bother me. I suspect your LB runs too hot.
Oops, thought they were for sale similar to the way that the "beta" WPA were for sale prior to final release. Didn't mean to solicit any freebies.
I agree with you though, only thing that I can picture in my head is some sort of pad/box that sits on top of the mesh screen.
Vitolo
Vaporist
I user a DBV and the MFLB... and the MFLB tastes not unlike the Buddha.
Could there be a weird residue in the box?
Does it smell funny at all?
Some folks find short vapor paths to have an ultra bitter taste until they get used to it, or let the vapor hit another spot in the mouth.
Example. I tried the PD and thought it tasted terrible every hit.
I so wanted to get a Zap.. but the PD tasted bad!
I figured out why...
I was aiming the stem at my tonsil, and the vapor tasted bitter.. this was due to short vapor path allowing heat to hit that one spot on my throat that translated the heat on that spot to "Bitterness" in my senses interpretation..
perhaps try the whip.. a 1 or two foot tube in an effort to lengthen the path and see if that helps.
If it is heat sensation like mine was.. you will suddenly get used to it!
Could there be a weird residue in the box?
Does it smell funny at all?
Some folks find short vapor paths to have an ultra bitter taste until they get used to it, or let the vapor hit another spot in the mouth.
Example. I tried the PD and thought it tasted terrible every hit.
I so wanted to get a Zap.. but the PD tasted bad!
I figured out why...
I was aiming the stem at my tonsil, and the vapor tasted bitter.. this was due to short vapor path allowing heat to hit that one spot on my throat that translated the heat on that spot to "Bitterness" in my senses interpretation..
perhaps try the whip.. a 1 or two foot tube in an effort to lengthen the path and see if that helps.
If it is heat sensation like mine was.. you will suddenly get used to it!
OF
Well-Known Member
Going to see Avengers tomorrow, and can't wait to take my LB's with me. Two LB's, with full trenches, should be good for the movies 2 hours and 20 minutes and travel time in the car.
Sounds like a plan, Vicki. Just don't forget the batteries......not that I ever would.
More than that one time, that is. A bad screw up on my part, it's not like you can duck into 7-11 and grab a few. Of course those combustion enablers are very happy to sell you overpriced papers......
OF
Cinnamonster
Well-Known Member
Ah, maybe in an alternate universe, Bic has their name on individual peeled NiMH's...
I just remembered walking into a 7/11 once, and noticing one guy's name was "Indika". I asked him how to pronounce it (I couldn't believe it). "Like the weed", he replied.
Going to see Avengers tomorrow, and can't wait to take my LB's with me. Two LB's, with full trenches, should be good for the movies 2 hours and 20 minutes and travel time in the car.
I love that. I once used my Box in front of Jay Leno, but in back of the cameras. He was doing some outdoor interview. I didn't really gain much from it! It's just nice knowing I can use it just about anywhere, and not be noticed.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
That's what I love about the MFLB. I can use it just about anywhere and get away with it!
Cinnamonster
Well-Known Member
That's what I love about the MFLB. I can use it just about anywhere and get away with it!
What's the weirdest place you've used yours in? I'm not even sure if "weirdest" is the right word for what I mean, but I think we know what I mean.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
What's the weirdest place you've used yours in? I'm not even sure if "weirdest" is the right word for what I mean, but I think we know what I mean.
Oh wow, so many places. I've used it at the movie theatre before many times...Walmart, NASA Kennedy Space Center (always have to go through metal detectors and get my purse searched before entering and ALWAYS got it in), Orange County Convention Center during a Sci-Fi convention, amusement parks, the list goes on and on. I might even use it in the bathroom of a police department!
Not that I really have any reason to go to a police department for any reason.