The Magic-Flight Box

[watertiger]

I've had my LB for about 8 months now and its gotten heavy use over the time. Its accrued quite a buildup under the trench. I've tried just running a few AA's for ~30 sec at a time to burn off as much resin as possible, but it seems its still pretty caked up. I noticed the tube wouldn't clean very well with isopropyl alcohol, but brake cleaner flushed everything right out. I'm hesitant to use anything on the LB itself. Is there any glue used to hold the screen of the trench to the walls of the LB? Would it be safe to use brake cleaner on it? A water rinse would remove any of the brake cleaner residue but I'm worried about any glues used in the internals. Or is the screen just pressed into the walls?

I use the supplied brush, but it only gets whats above the trench. During the burnoff I can even start to smell the wood cook when I pull the battery (using the powerex 2700mah with maha charger, 3 charges then a refresh/analyze), but I still can see a lot of resin built up that I'd like to flush out somehow.

Sorry if this has been answered before. Thanks in advance!

Don't bother running batteries though it to burn off the honey under the trench. That area will never get hot enough and you might be shortening your battery life. Why do you feel the need to clean it out? I just let mine build up, which is what Magic-Flight recommends.

No matter which brand you pick, brake cleaner contains more toxic ingredients than I'd care to think about. I would never use it on anything like a vaporizer, especially one that is made primarily from wood, and in particular I would not use it on parts that I put in my mouth.

Good point with the battery life.

I didn't think much about the chemicals. I've absorbed my fair share of brake cleaner along with grease, gas etc from working on cars and other off road vehicles over the years, not sure it would make much difference having just a little more.

Just want to keep the inside from filling with goop. I had to clear the opening with a toothpick as it clogged completely. Did I mention I use it quite a bit?

 

[gim]

I didn't think much about the chemicals. I've absorbed my fair share of brake cleaner along with grease, gas etc from working on cars and other off road vehicles over the years, not sure it would make much difference having just a little more.

The difference here being that you're vaporizing the chemical and immediately(and very directly) inhaling it. I would say the chemical composition and effect on your lungs is probably entirely different from inhaling it in ambient air.

 

[DeepFried]

Someone posted here a few pages back that they poured some salt in through the mouthpiece hole and then covered the hole with their thumb and filled the whole trench area with iso/everclear, closed the lid and shook it. They claimed it cleared everything out, I am afraid to try it but it would sure beat brake cleaner.

 

[pakalolo]

Someone posted here a few pages back that they poured some salt in through the mouthpiece hole and then covered the hole with their thumb and filled the whole trench area with iso/everclear, closed the lid and shook it. They claimed it cleared everything out, I am afraid to try it but it would sure beat brake cleaner.

I must have missed that, I'll have to go back and look.

That method would work, but magicflight has said that immersion cleaning in ISO or anything else is not recommended because the LB is wood. The procedure you described is not much different from complete immersion, since the wood will absorb some of whatever you use.

Alcohol dries out wood and will hasten deterioration, but as far as I'm concerned the best reason not to do the ISO (or Everclear) fill-up-and-shake is that your LB will taste horrible, maybe forever. I say this because when I was cleaning my screen I overloaded the brush and let a drop fall through the trench. It wasn't a big drop, either. My stomach dropped into my tootsies the first time I hit the Box after that. Nastiest taste ever!

I did a couple of 30 second heat cleaning cycles and it was only slightly better. I was scared I'd ruined my LB but after a couple of trenches, the taste went back to normal. It gave me a good scare, so based on that, I strongly recommend that this technique should be avoided.

 

[DeepFried]

That is why I don't want to try it, but someone claimed that the resin coating also impregnates the wood somewhat protecting it from the adverse effects of the iso during the very short quick wash.

 

[pakalolo]

That is why I don't want to try it, but someone claimed that the resin coating also impregnates the wood somewhat protecting it from the adverse effects of the iso during the very short quick wash.

Yeah, I believe that the coating diminishes the effects somewhat, but complete protection? Whoever that someone is, let us know how that works out for you because that's the only way I'll ever find out.

 

[Wolface]

The next version of the box should have a slide out bottom that can be removed for cleaning. Scraping out from the stem hole can be risky as a sharp object could damage the screen.

 

[Vicki]

The next version of the box should have a slide out bottom that can be removed for cleaning. Scraping out from the stem hole can be risky as a sharp object could damage the screen.

That's a good idea.

 

[derp]

You always talk about isopropyl alcohol. Would simple ethanol work for general vape cleaning?
I use it on Q-tips to clean the long stem of the LB (I prefer that to native mode), and it removes the goo very well. I'd just like to try ot on some glass EQ parts (and maybe in the future the LB itself if resin becomes a problem).

 

[sundaddy]

The next version of the box should have a slide out bottom that can be removed for cleaning. Scraping out from the stem hole can be risky as a sharp object could damage the screen.

I've thought about that too, but it would get kinda tricky at the mouth hole. Any separation, even a millimeter would make it too loose to hold the stem.

 

[george]

The next version of the box should have a slide out bottom that can be removed for cleaning. Scraping out from the stem hole can be risky as a sharp object could damage the screen.

I've thought about that too, but it would get kinda tricky at the mouth hole. Any separation, even a millimeter would make it too loose to hold the stem.

The mouth hole could easily be part of what would slide out.

I like the idea, but it would probably cost more to produce. Plus, the more complicated it gets the more problems will arise. Doesn't MagicFlight say the resin buildup wont affect performance? I think the simple engineering and low cost of production are what makes MagicFlight able to give a lifetime warranty.

 

[JDSupreme]

i think if u actually use it enough that the resin under the screen builds up to the point where it doesn't work, MF should replace it under warranty IMO

 

[pakalolo]

You always talk about isopropyl alcohol. Would simple ethanol work for general vape cleaning?

Sure, you could use any alcohol. Hmmm, perhaps a decent scotch would leave a nicer taste...

i think if u actually use it enough that the resin under the screen builds up to the point where it doesn't work, MF should replace it under warranty IMO

You don't have to wish for this, that is covered by the lifetime warranty.

 

[magicflight]

i think if u actually use it enough that the resin under the screen builds up to the point where it doesn't work, MF should replace it under warranty IMO

You don't have to wish for this, that is covered by the lifetime warranty.

This is correct. We will gladly replace any unit that becomes non-functional due to a buildup of this kind.

 

[gim]

The support offered is one of the major reasons you can't beat this vape in price to performance.

I have actually not used my EQ since I got the MFLB. I have a feeling the EQ will be retired and only used in group scenarios.

 

[slurpeejerky711]

i have been magic flightless for about a week and personally it completely blows, had to combust for a bit which yielded some poor results, luckily i have a couple PDs on the way but hopefully i can get another mflb by the end of next month

 

[derp]

I have actually not used my EQ since I got the MFLB. I have a feeling the EQ will be retired and only used in group scenarios.

Ditto! I barely used my EQ 2-3 times since I got the LB... And it was only 2 weeks old back then!

 

[LaunchBox420]

Magic Flight Launch Box

Please post questions and discussion about this wonderful vape! I was wondering if anyone has used the whip with it? Also has anyone used normal AA batteries?

Modnote: Merged, please search before posting a new thread.

 

[Pancakes]

Potential MFLB owner here,

I'm curious how well the heat is contained inside the unit while in use. I understand that it cools quickly, but does any external part get hot enough to burn the user while in use (besed the battery)

Also, I'm curious if anybody has used the MFLB with mint, either spearmint or peppermint. I like the taste they provide when I mix it in with my other herbs when i combust, however I believe they vape at around 310F.

Thanks

 

[george]

Hey Pancakes,

The Launch Box does'nt get hot enough to burn you anywhere on the outside. At the MOST the wood may feel warm. (This is assuming you're using it right..)
I got some spearmint with my MFLB for free from puffitup.com, i tried vaping it and it does have a nice taste. I bet it's a lot better than smoking spearmint

 

[Pancakes]

Thanks for the info. I just had some concern about that copper coil that's under the battery compartment, but I suppose that's just used to make a circuit, doesn't necessarily get hot?

One other question. I sometimes tend to have somewhat clammy hands. Anybody every feel any kind of current on the battery if their hands are a little bit wet. I've been shocked way too many times, I'm just a little bit paranoid

On another note about the spearmint. Sounds pretty good! Has anybody tried using any kind of flavor drops on their herb. My buddy has a cotton candy flavor drop that smells/tastes great. I still like the original flavor of my herb, I just like to mix it up some times. Would it be a bad idea to add a drop. It probably would clog up the screen?

Thanks

 

[hanfhead]

I'm curious how well the heat is contained inside the unit while in use. I understand that it cools quickly, but does any external part get hot enough to burn the user while in use (besed the battery)

It does not get hot, only slightly warm with normal use. I forgot my battery in for about 2-3 minutes and it was hot but not quite 'burn you' hot.

Thanks for the info. I just had some concern about that copper coil that's under the battery compartment, but I suppose that's just used to make a circuit, doesn't necessarily get hot?

I just held the top of my hand/knuckles on that part and hit it for about a minute and it doesn't get any warmer than the rest of the outside. The two rods on the inside, under the screen get very hot if you put your finger in the trench and put power to it. That's probably the only way you could get burned.

One other question. I sometimes tend to have somewhat clammy hands. Anybody every feel any kind of current on the battery if their hands are a little bit wet. I've been shocked way too many times, I'm just a little bit paranoid

No. However you can burn yourself if the battery shorts if you wear a ring. (this happened to my brother)

Also if your batteries fit tight you may have trouble twisting to pull them out. I took a
metal scribe and engraved vertical lines at the ends of my batteries to give them grip. Kind of a ghetto knurling.

 

[derp]

I sometimes tend to have somewhat clammy hands. Anybody every feel any kind of current on the battery if their hands are a little bit wet. I've been shocked way too many times, I'm just a little bit paranoid

The voltage/current will surely not cause problems, 1.4 volts won't do you any harm, it is not enough to make the jump through the outer layer of your skin. The only hazard is from burning (a ring conducts very well, it probably drew huge big currents and got warm quickly - in this regard it's very similar to how the LB works ).

 

[Jaakko]

Good method for removing the glue remains after peeling Eneloop batteries:

Roll a piece of strong duct tape around the battery. Then put the battery on a table and rub the battery with another one in a straight angle back and forth to really press duct tape very tightly on. Use a lot of force and go through every side of the battery.

Then peel the duct tape off and almost all of the glue will adhere to the tape.

 

[herbgirl]

Thanks for the info. I just had some concern about that copper coil that's under the battery compartment, but I suppose that's just used to make a circuit, doesn't necessarily get hot?

One other question. I sometimes tend to have somewhat clammy hands. Anybody every feel any kind of current on the battery if their hands are a little bit wet. I've been shocked way too many times, I'm just a little bit paranoid

On another note about the spearmint. Sounds pretty good! Has anybody tried using any kind of flavor drops on their herb. My buddy has a cotton candy flavor drop that smells/tastes great. I still like the original flavor of my herb, I just like to mix it up some times. Would it be a bad idea to add a drop. It probably would clog up the screen?

Thanks

i've thought i felt a lil bit of current through my wedding ring when my hands were damp, but i wasn't sure. Maybe it was? it wasn't a big deal, just a brief little buzzy feeling.

spearmint and peppermint vape nicely. i mix maybe a third of a leaf to a trench - not much at all - and it flavors the trench just enough. kinda minty - like those nasty ass newports i used to smoke, but much more pleasant. lavender or chamomile would work for this too. you might even try with a pinch of the contents of a sleepytime tea bag.

as for the drops, i've never tried them, but i have been thinking about adding a drop of lemon or lime essential oil to a cotton ball and putting it in my stash jar to flavor the whole batch. if you do this, the oil does not go directly on the herb, just in the same container. overnight would probably do the trick. just make sure you use 100% essential oils, NOT fragrance oils.

looks like it is time for me to create that aromatherapy thread....