At this rate if you keep getting replacements they'll run out of 2.1s to frustrate you with...... keep up the good workOF, thank you for the explanation, although I will admit I didn't follow all of it.
My 4th replacement of the 2.1 just arrived, any bets on how long this one lasts? The one this is replacing lasted less time than it took to get the replacement.
Exactly. I was getting used to lesser vapor and effect. First use of the backup-box was a pleasant wake upYour expectations shift without your realizing it. Fortunately, clever as the design is, the backup LB wasn't fooled even a little bit.
Don't sell it short, it's a great vape for sure. Highly recommended.
I've already read complaints on the 3.0, I hope it's just a random problem this time.From what I've read (and my experience) there are two problems, one is the wires failing at the dummy battery, and then the electronics just failing. Mounting the electronics directly to the dummy battery, and the magnetic connection at the input solves the wire connection problem. But if they are still using the same components on the board, I don't have much hope.I'm kind of amazed that MF is still having PA problems. I beta tested the first PA that was a round cylinder thing that worked really well, Then they sent me the real fancy looking small rectangular box PA which never worked as well intermittently turning off and on. MF never sorted out my feedback; I gave my first PA to my herb guy and I still use the cute newer wonky one even though it cuts on and off.
MF has come out with still another iteration of the PA that looks totally different . Lets hope this is the ONE!
I used only indicas and hybrids in my mflb, because I don't like the toasty sativa taste, but with your tip (pulsating the battery) I enjoy now also the sativas in the box.Keep pulsing that battery to maintain a lower temperature and keep the herb from toasting too fast.
Same here. I took mine to work last week after it’s been sitting around for the better part of a year. Batteries are a couple to a few years old and have also been sitting for the same amount of time.Broke out my MFLB last night after fine grinding 0.1gm homegrown Romulan-Grapefruit in a Nano grinder and then into the Finishing grinder. Took three 10-second hits and the taste, vapor production, and effect were all exceptional. Paired with a freshly charged Goldcell battery it was just the experience I needed. I keep forgetting what a great vape this is but it gets left in a drawer for weeks and even months at a time.
I too noticed my performance was dropping, I thought maybe my year old batteries were getting weak. Then I noticed my screen was worn through. I just got my replacement and what a difference! I will admit I have had problems with some of their quality control, but they have replaced each one of their products that I've had issues with. I was advised that I had surpassed my limit on replacements, but they would send another. I guess their policy is one replacement only. The next warranty I claim on the box will be a 25% discount on a new one. For the record My first one popped an o-ring while I was cleaning it, this one just wore out from constant use and cleaning.
I guess this is the beginning of my LB`s end? Last weeks i noticed that the box lost more and more power, still producing some vapor but not that much like it used to do. And now i see why I guess i can send in a request for a replacement, in a situation like this?
Time to unpack my brand new -backup walnut box that i bought when it was on sale
That's so frustrating. How many days/months lasted it? It's such a pity that the power adapter is still unreliable. Hopefully they'll offer another one for free to give you the chance for a good magic flight and not a magic fail.Power supply number 5 has just died. I'm love my LB, but without a decent power supply that can last more than a few weeks, it's useless to me. I use it between 10 and 15 times a day and batteries are not going to cut it.
The first one had the connection problem from day 1. A few months after I got it, it got put away for about 6 months. When I broke it back out, it wouldn't work at all. They were nice enough to warranty it as it had this problem from day one. The replacement lasted about 1 month. The next replacement died in a week. I think this one is 2 months old.That's so frustrating. How many days/months lasted it? It's such a pity that the power adapter is still unreliable. Hopefully they'll offer another one for free to give you the chance for a good magic flight and not a magic fail.
I'm with you there. While I had some dicey contact at first with the ring in the box, that was easily sorted out. I too have one on loan (for some time now.....) and LOTS of use on the one here I've had no other problems. I even built a battery pack so I could take it into the garden where it saw a lot of duty a few years back.I still can't understand all the problems people have with the PA, I have an original one that's out on loan that's been working for 8 years now and is still used daily and my PA 2.0 is still working fine.
It does indeed, I no longer use it as a 'session vape' really. Unless your herb consumption is way, way up from what it once was you must get a lot of 'top off hits' from a gram or two of fine ground goods......The MFLB is STILL in my rotation. It makes one helluva maintenance hitter.
You were smart enough to skip the 2.1! Since I have been having so many failures, I have been searching for reviews in the 2.1. Many times I've read about people with 2.0s not having any problems. I know if this was my company, and I was getting so many returns and bad reviews, I would be sending out 3.0s as replacements. There is nothing worse than an upset customer or a bad review IMO. I don't believe for a second that MF doesn't know how poorly the 2.1 PA's longevity is. Had they offered me (and they still have the chance to do so), I would be here praising MF, rather than complaining and thinking of going with a different vape.Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to downplay anyone else's experience.
I still can't understand all the problems people have with the PA, I have an original one that's out on loan that's been working for 8 years now and is still used daily and my PA 2.0 is still working fine. I did pick up a PA 3.0 to try out and it's working well too. I do only use my box a handful of times a month these days so I expect that the new PA to last forever.
My OG PA has done many thousands of trenches and my 2.0 many hundreds so How have I lucked out? Why can't I get this lucky with things that really matter?
questions, questions confronting the concerned (and very stoned) old fart today.
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I've got a 2 D cell holder that I reworked to run them in parallel for a portable battery pack. Do you know of any D cells that would work with the LB? I don't know the term for a battery that "flows" enough power to work with the LB. I do have a pair of 3AA to a D cell adapters, and could use 6 of the MF gold batteries, but would rather just have to charge 2 batteries.I even built a battery pack so I could take it into the garden where it saw a lot of duty a few years back.
One thing sure, MF can't stay in business if it's replacing them on a regular basis. A single replacement wipes out all profit from a pile of other units. Replacing the same one over and over is a fast way to make your employees 'available to the industry'.......
There are some potential ones, this one is widely available and marginal for the application used 'in spec':I've got a 2 D cell holder that I reworked to run them in parallel for a portable battery pack.
Thank you again for sharing your knowledge. Nothing's ever easy is it? Would you happen to have a build thread on your battery pack somewhere?There are some potential ones, this one is widely available and marginal for the application used 'in spec':
Battery Space and 'even Amazon' sell them. Ironically there are also C cells designed for portable tools that are in that range. You could probably 'limp by' on two?
The technical term you're looking for is 'current capacity' (ability to supply lots of current (power) at a time). We need 15 Amps, largely unheard of with AAs. Fifteen. So 3 of the above (at five Amps per) are 'on par'.
However, it's not that simple (when is it ever?). To deliver 15 Amps you're talking about 12 AWG wire, say 1/8 inch copper, 'each way'. Of the roughly 1.25 Volts (measure of pressure) in the LB only about 3/4 of that makes it to the screen, over 1/3 is lost in the few inches of heavy wires inside the box. Just getting 15 Amps through the contacts in the box is a serious issue. That's why MFLB uses 12 Volts (at much lower current) and only 'makes' the 1.2 at the last minute, just before contacting the box to limit these looses. If a simple box with D cells would do it, they would no doubt have offered us a truly pretty wooden box for that?
You can also consider Li-ion D cells which are more like 3.7 Volts by some have current capacity of the sort we need and sacrifice most of the power delivered (over 3/4) in 'voltage drops' in your cable, connections and so on. You might have better luck with that than I did.
There's a solid reason why very few AAs work at all and only very special ones give good service. Not an easy nut to crack. Which is why I built a higher voltage, lower current battery pack and use the factory PA.
The LB is my first too. I thought it was an economical way to see if I would prefer vaping, as combusting was taking it's toll on me. I also like the look and feel of it. But if I have to rely on batteries, I will move on also.@Mysterion999 - I agree with you 100%. I wonder if the MFLB isn't selling as well as it used to what with all the new advanced vapes coming out? They may be having an issue staying in business. I love the MFLB but it's not going to re-establish itself as my daily driver and although it was my first vape, and a damn fine selection back then....... I'm pretty sure if I was starting out again in the vape world the MFLB wouldn't be my first choice. And to add insult to injury the box itself is just about indestructible and you get another free if it goes belly up. Sales may be an issue.......
Could be a catch-22 for the MFLB company. Maybe they can't afford to keep up the high level of support that "launched" them. They still need to find some middle ground until they can come up with a new business plan that will also cost them to implement.
I'm not big on cutting a manufacturer any slack in cases like this but I have personally seen many FC folks get royally screwed on new vapes and still remain loyal. As a business person myself I'm apt to lean on the side of natural selection and free markets.