The Magic-Flight Box

[yadabrah1]

does anyone know if replacing orbiter whip tubing is possible? i got some latex tubing CLOSE to the size i think i need. cant figure out if the original tubing is fixed to the glass piece, and i dont want to force it off if it goes inside the glass piece and/or is fixed to the glass. it seems super snug and permanently afixed to me... dont want to ruin the whip. am i supposed to just clean it instead of replace the tubing?

sorry if this has been covered, but i cant find anyone addressing this issue.

someone has to have been down this road before.

cant use my vape until the tubing is replaced or cleaned thoroughly as its seen heavy use. havent used it in months due to this issue. gotta get back to vaping, cuz as yall already know..... COMBUSTION SUCKS! my lungs are reminding me of this fact every day.

 

[OF]

Yea I'm excited.

Thanks for the warning. Please keep your distance......and your hands in full sight......this isn't that kinda forum, really.

OF

 

[Dynalowrider]

Slide the wood back. The silicon tubing has a short piece of hard plastic tube inside it to hold the fitting on. Once you get the wood off you will see it is simple.
If you straighten a wire coat hanger, bend the end back a 1/2", dampen one end of a "q-tip" with iso or better yet Everclear, (lead with the wet end and follow with the dry), and push through the tubing. Do it a couple of times. Blow dry or rinse. It'll get you by. Doc

 

[yadabrah1]

Slide the wood back. The silicon tubing has a short piece of hard plastic tube inside it to hold the fitting on. Once you get the wood off you will see it is simple.
If you straighten a wire coat hanger, bend the end back a 1/2", dampen one end of a "q-tip" with iso or better yet Everclear, (lead with the wet end and follow with the dry), and push through the tubing. Do it a couple of times. Blow dry or rinse. It'll get you by. Doc

thanks for the advised technique. sounds simple enough.

i guess the tubing IS permanently affixed to the glass piece of the whip.

 

[Dynalowrider]

No the tubing is held in place by the plastic tube inside it. Don't be afraid of it. You have the same ability as the person who put it together. Pull the wood back it's not rocket science. Doc


Now that I reread this it kinda sounds dirty. But it's the truth.

 

[yadabrah1]

No the tubing is held in place by the plastic tube inside it. Don't be afraid of it. You have the same ability as the person who put it together. Pull the wood back it's not rocket science. Doc


Now that I reread this it kinda sounds dirty. But it's the truth.

ahhhh, thanks again. i now see what you mean.....

the tubing has an acrylic stem/tip inside it inside of the glass on glass piece! it did seem glued in there. but itll re-wedge back in there tight with the tubing having the acrylic stem/tip inside of it!


thanks, i got my vape going again! i cleaned one section of the tubing with your q-tip technique, worked super easy and cleaned it very good on just one pass! then i replaced the tubing on the other length with the latex tubing i picked up. i couldnt get the wood piece back on the section with the new latex tubing, so i think i should source some acrylic tubing of the right diameter to get her back perfect as this stuff i have is slightly larger outside diameter compared tot he original tubing.

thanks again. this'll do for now.
Happy Vaping!!!!!!!

 

[Dynalowrider]

Cool, glad it worked. Have a good Hazing. Doc


You can use a round file to open up the wood to fit the new tubing, just know when to stop removing wood.

 

[vapirtoo]

Finally bought a charger that can refresh batteries.
I got a maha MHC800S 8 cell.
So far it took about 12 hrs. to refresh and charge five glyphs.
They seem as strong as they were a year ago.

When I need to clean my tubing , I just get some over proof rum or other spirit ,
put the glass connection in my mouth , place the other end of the tubing in the alcohol and suck it right to my lips ,ouch !
I make the fluid go up and down , talk about backwash, until I feel better about how the tubing looks.
I do not disconnect anything (KISS) and it is cleaned quicker than it took me to type this.
Oh yeah I get a kick out of drying the tubing by carefully swinging the glass end around very rapidly. I said carefully. .

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

New power adapter tho...

http://sales.magic-flight.com/original-maple-power-adapter-2-4-beta/

 

[Fat Freddy]

I have no doubt that the lifetime warranty that MFLB offers is a 'sacred cow' within their org culture but given their apparent limited ability to compete these days in the rapidly developing vape market, it might be a viable idea to modify the warranty to a limited year arrangement for new buyers, followed by cutting the price of a basic MFLB by say, 50%, with a renewed marketing emphasis on MFLB accessories ?

Just an idea....

.

 

[PKS]

I'm convinced, I'm ordering a MFLB Monday as my first vape. How many batteries should I need for my Wife and I? Any other must have accessories?

I've been reading the guides on use and cleaning, this site is amazing.

Are the Pico and Gold series batteries available anywhere other than on MFLB's site?

Are the Gold batteries an upgrade to what come stock in the MFLB?

 

[Vaporhead99]

I'm convinced, I'm ordering a MFLB Monday as my first vape. How many batteries should I need for my Wife and I? Any other must have accessories?

I've been reading the guides on use and cleaning, this site is amazing.

Are the Pico and Gold series batteries available anywhere other than on MFLB's site?

Are the Gold batteries an upgrade to what come stock in the MFLB?

I have had my mflb for over 5 years now and it is a fantastic piece of kit, the only extras I have picked up over the years were a whip (that I have never used) and more powerful batteries.

Initially I was using the shipped batteries, they worked and I was always satisfied with them until I picked up some stronger batteries and realised how poor they actually were, I now only use either maplin branded or energizer 2700Mah nimh batteries and they are fantastic whilst I also use a maplin charger.

Good luck with the mflb, you won't regret buying one if you do get one

 

[mplx]

I'm convinced, I'm ordering a MFLB Monday as my first vape. How many batteries should I need for my Wife and I?

6 or 8 batteries should do. But i used batteries for only 2 months. I had 4 and that was enough.

Any other must have accessories?

Yes, PA for use at home. No more battery charging and it has "temperature control".
Finishing grinder is great and if you like vaping through a bong or waterpipe, i would advise a waterpipe-whip.

 

[Lokbok]

I'm convinced, I'm ordering a MFLB Monday as my first vape. How many batteries should I need for my Wife and I? Any other must have accessories?

I've been reading the guides on use and cleaning, this site is amazing.

Are the Pico and Gold series batteries available anywhere other than on MFLB's site?

Are the Gold batteries an upgrade to what come stock in the MFLB?

The gold batteries are simply for aesthetics. They perform the same as long as you got the most recent silver batteries to use as comparison (some older MFLB batteries were weaker). Personally, I've had awesome luck just getting the Amazon Basics hi cap batteries (with the black wrappers) and you essentially get like 8 of them for the price of 2 of the gold official MFLB batteries. Only thing is, you gotta take the peel off the Amazon Basic batteries before they'll be operational in the MFLB. It's kind of a pain but for the savings it's worth it (use a little ISO and rough paper towel to get the sticker residue off). Also never forget to put the caps back on the batteries. You also never want the batteries to touch each other when the top tips are exposed.

The PICO is something completely different and if you're looking to vape, I would just stick to the MFLB.

 

[PKS]

The gold batteries are simply for aesthetics. They perform the same as long as you got the most recent silver batteries to use as comparison (some older MFLB batteries were weaker). Personally, I've had awesome luck just getting the Amazon Basics hi cap batteries (with the black wrappers) and you essentially get like 8 of them for the price of 2 of the gold official MFLB batteries. Only thing is, you gotta take the peel off the Amazon Basic batteries before they'll be operational in the MFLB. It's kind of a pain but for the savings it's worth it (use a little ISO and rough paper towel to get the sticker residue off). Also never forget to put the caps back on the batteries. You also never want the batteries to touch each other when the top tips are exposed.

The PICO is something completely different and if you're looking to vape, I would just stick to the MFLB.

Thank you, for the battery info!

PIU was out of stock so I went direct and ordered the MFLB, Bottle Rocket and a finishing grinder. I know the Pico isn't a vape, but it seemed like it might be handy and the price was right so I grabbed one of those too.

I'll be adding a PA when I can find one in stock.

 

[Lokbok]

Thank you, for the battery info!

PIU was out of stock so I went direct and ordered the MFLB, Bottle Rocket and a finishing grinder. I know the Pico isn't a vape, but it seemed like it might be handy and the price was right so I grabbed one of those too.

I'll be adding a PA when I can find one in stock.

Definitely a great start. I know the PICO is getting poo poo'd on here (not blaming them, especially for the vape purists) but I'll prob pick one up too. I want something smaller and more not as hard on the wallet if I lost/broke the item. I've really been looking for something I can take with me when I go out that is discreet and really small (I mainly want to quit drinking when I go out with friends). Personally, I don't feel comfortable taking my Box or Maud Dib out in public. I use them more as units I just freely take anywhere around my house or when I go on trips (great for hotels, etc). I'm hoping the PICO isn't too difficult to not get the herbs to combust. I already have the timing for the Box perfected since I've owned them for so long.

 

[vapirtoo]

Been neglecting my LB as I've been cloud chasing with my Daisy for a few months.
Went canoeing on quiet water and whipped out the LB and wham! Two hits and the whole scene went WOW!
That short air path just fills you with potent vapor that is super effective.
Truly a most underrated vape .

 

[hotmeals]

Idk if this specifically has been discussed before (I tried a quick search), but does anyone else find that a significant amount of air actually does come through that hole on the back near the patent number when the push back ring is removed? I know I've read in multiple places that it wasn't designed to be an air intake, but it's definitely pulling in air at least on my LB. I've been preferring it without the push back ring if mostly for this reason tbh, easier for me to get an even cook.

 

[OF]

Idk if this specifically has been discussed before (I tried a quick search), but does anyone else find that a significant amount of air actually does come through that hole on the back near the patent number when the push back ring is removed?

Yes, it's been discussed a LOT. Perhaps yours is different, but on mine the hole near the S/N is on 'the other side' of the push back ring, it contributes air to the hit already, with or without the ring. If you meant the hole to the right when viewed from the rear with the cover up that will add some air, but at the expense of less air from other routes.

In the end airflow into the bowl is controlled exclusively by the shallow groove running over the negative battery ring and into the bowl at 'one o'clock'.

FWIW the depth of this groove (and therefore draw resistance) has changed over the years, some find it excessive. Some of us partially block this path with tape to add resistance:

There's so little power available in MFLB we really don't want any more cold air getting in than needed to replace the vapor produced. Heating that air will rob vapor production, modest as it already is.

OF

 

[mplx]

FWIW the depth of this groove (and therefore draw resistance) has changed over the years, some find it excessive. Some of us partially block this path with tape to add resistance:

There's so little power available in MFLB we really don't want any more cold air getting in than needed to replace the vapor produced. Heating that air will rob vapor production, modest as it already is.

OF

Can i use just any kind of thick tape or does it need to be heat resistant? With herbs the groove is ok for me, cause herbs heat up pretty quick but with hashish that groove is troubling me. Hash needs quite some time at full power to heat up, start to bubble and release vapor. Often i wait too long and the vapor is leaking out trough the groove; some tape to narrow that air intake (vape outtake) would be

 

[hotmeals]

If you meant the hole to the right when viewed from the rear with the cover up that will add some air, but at the expense of less air from other routes.

Yep that's the one I meant, cool

FWIW the depth of this groove (and therefore draw resistance) has changed over the years, some find it excessive. Some of us partially block this path with tape to add resistance:

Huh, interesting. I think if I did that with mine I would be charring a lot. I feel like with the push back ring installed I have to draw even harder than I would on a pipe to prevent charring, and it feels too restricted for me (maybe i have a wimpy diaphragm). And that's with eneloops, with the glyphs charring is almost inevitable at some point during a trench unless I have the push back ring taken out. Anyway thanks, good to know mine isn't too restricted and letting in air where it shouldn't.

 

[OF]

Can i use just any kind of thick tape or does it need to be heat resistant? With herbs the groove is ok for me, cause herbs heat up pretty quick but with hashish that groove is troubling me. Hash needs quite some time at full power to heat up, start to bubble and release vapor. Often i wait too long and the vapor is leaking out trough the groove; some tape to narrow that air intake (vape outtake) would be

No real heat issues there. Lots of guys use electrical tape as I recall. I used "Gorilla Tape" with is much thicker because that particular groove is deeper than most (at least than my other boxes, there seems to be a fair bit of variation there). And one point I was going to put a wire 'staple' in to block the groove but the tape is doing fine (a confirmation that it not too hot since the glue is fine). I at one point tried a wedge shaped version, thinking the airflow through the edges would be more turbulent but decided that was just plain silly.

If the heat in the trench is getting ahead of you I suggest backing off on the power rather than sucking harder. I assume your box is new? As they 'break in' the run cooler, my theory is because of the darker oxide that seems to accompany this. Your call, but by all means try pulsing the power, most of us found it more effective.

OF

 

[hotmeals]

If the heat in the trench is getting ahead of you I suggest backing off on the power rather than sucking harder. I assume your box is new? As they 'break in' the run cooler, my theory is because of the darker oxide that seems to accompany this. Your call, but by all means try pulsing the power, most of us found it more effective.

I'm guessing this part was directed at me? Sorry if not lol but mine is about 2 months old, vaping a few trenches a day. I think I did notice the break in pretty early on but it's hard to say if it was that, just learning the technique, or batteries, or maybe a combination of any of the 3. I have tried pulsing the power some, it seems like when I pulse it back on it re-reaches higher than desired temperatures very quickly and I have to stop the hit / let it cool for a few extra seconds / flip the trench. Or do you mean like stop holding the battery in and start pulsing on and off somewhat rapidly?

 

[OF]

Or do you mean like stop holding the battery in and start pulsing on and off somewhat rapidly?

Yep, that's it. Stop pushing on the battery when/if it gets too hot. After a brief pause (a couple of seconds? Maybe less) apply power again.

"Feathering" is a pretty common technique in lots of Vapes that don't provide temperature control for you. For instance, "oil pens" like Omicron, Persei, Dr Dabber, and so on often depend on this to 'avoid burning the oil'. They too run open loop ('full blast').

OF

 

[hotmeals]

Alright sounds good, I've definitely used that technique with vape pens like you said, but I've been avoiding it with the MFLB for some reason. I'll keep that in mind for when I'm using the ring for stealth missions or if I ever find the trench getting too hot without it