The Lotus Vaporizer

cybrguy

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Best kind of glass:

Can I get some recommendations for a small glass piece that works well with the Lotus? I was thinking of something like the sneaky pete sci-fi rig. I want a piece that preserves flavor, filters out the little particles, and has plenty of distance between the cap and one's face when using it.
To me the Lotus on it's wpa is the most versatile vape I have. It works well on almost anything. Most of my glass is 18mm female joints so with the Lotus I am usually using a 18 to 14 reducer, but the Lotus performance this way is second to none. Lately I have been using it a lot on the Rattlecan and on a D022, but it is very pleasant on a plain J-hook.
I always use it on glass, both because I love using glass for its water conditioning, and because I can see how the lotus is performing so it is easy to adjust draw and flame to get the hit I want. The Lotus really is the vape I use to evaluate all others.
 

Gigsabits53

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To me the Lotus on it's wpa is the most versatile vape I have. It works well on almost anything. Most of my glass is 18mm female joints so with the Lotus I am usually using a 18 to 14 reducer, but the Lotus performance this way is second to none. Lately I have been using it a lot on the Rattlecan and on a D022, but it is very pleasant on a plain J-hook.
I always use it on glass, both because I love using glass for its water conditioning, and because I can see how the lotus is performing so it is easy to adjust draw and flame to get the hit I want. The Lotus really is the vape I use to evaluate all others.
Agree with all of your points on the Lotus. It's a wonderful vape through water. In fact, I think this is where it really shines. Also great to use with a j-hook and an ashcatcher.

The only advice on glass pieces to buy for the Lotus, is make sure there is enough space from your face when heating, and you are golden. Great vape!
 

Woodisgood

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Honestly, I feel the opposite. With my convection vapes, I can vape them fully enough that all the herb just slides out, and I never have to worry about the screen besides the after-bowl brushing. They stay completely clean for me. I go many weeks between feeling the need to remove the screen for cleaning. For something high-powered, I've went over a year of daily use without feeling the need to remove the screen for cleaning.
Is this also the case for the Lotus? If so, I have no idea why this is happening with me.
 
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cannasoor

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I do like the look of the orbiter - very elegant! I’m not sure they are available right now in the UK, however. I would prefer no whip, but I could get a separate glass mouthpiece for it.

I have a very nice straight mouthpiece / stem I use for the Orbiter that I got from Sneaky Pete's on-line store. It's about 5 inches long and you can see it on the Orbiter in the picture of some of my kit here:

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I don't see the exact same piece there now, but a clear version that may be a touch shorter is in his store here. I've also seen similar pieces in a lot of pictures and some other on-line places, too.
 

cannasoor

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Thanks!

What are all the glass tubes in the case on the left?

The glass tubes on the left are glass vials in two sizes: the larger ones hold my pre-ground product, the smaller ones hold ground herb. I put a lot of emphasis in my vaping on strain flavors and comparisons—this system lets me keep 30+ strains going at once, so lots of different things to compare and contrast. Currently I have … hmm … 42 strains in pre-ground ready at hand, in 4 of those smaller cases (re-purposed black eyeglass cases).

It's a bit of an oddball approach, developed in relative isolation. I really should write it up for a topic here some day … but I worry that too many FC'ers will collapse in horror at the thought of all that herb having been ground in advance 😀. (In reality, the small vials only hold about 6 doses, and stay airtight in the dark and cool of the cases almost all the time, so it keeps pretty fresh.)

Regarding the mouthpiece, however, I may have to back-pedal a bit on my recommendation: I saw some concerns over distance from the flame and the risk of one's hair going up (@Gigsabits53 , a few posts up the thread). Well, this stem is a bit short, so that could be an issue. @BestBuds recommended "a nice long 14mm male glass straw style mouthpiece"—this roughly 5" stem might be a little too short for some hair styles.

PS: if you're interested, you can see a few more pics (and a bit more detail on things like the labels) at my imgbb account here.
 

BallzMcVinegar

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Thanks!



The glass tubes on the left are glass vials in two sizes: the larger ones hold my pre-ground product, the smaller ones hold ground herb. I put a lot of emphasis in my vaping on strain flavors and comparisons—this system lets me keep 30+ strains going at once, so lots of different things to compare and contrast. Currently I have … hmm … 42 strains in pre-ground ready at hand, in 4 of those smaller cases (re-purposed black eyeglass cases).

It's a bit of an oddball approach, developed in relative isolation. I really should write it up for a topic here some day … but I worry that too many FC'ers will collapse in horror at the thought of all that herb having been ground in advance 😀. (In reality, the small vials only hold about 6 doses, and stay airtight in the dark and cool of the cases almost all the time, so it keeps pretty fresh.)

Regarding the mouthpiece, however, I may have to back-pedal a bit on my recommendation: I saw some concerns over distance from the flame and the risk of one's hair going up (@Gigsabits53 , a few posts up the thread). Well, this stem is a bit short, so that could be an issue. @BestBuds recommended "a nice long 14mm male glass straw style mouthpiece"—this roughly 5" stem might be a little too short for some hair styles.

PS: if you're interested, you can see a few more pics (and a bit more detail on things like the labels) at my imgbb account here.
That is quite the system you got going on there. Im still in the discovery phase of vape flavors and it takes me a while to work my way through what I do buy since I have a low tolerance. Do you have any stand outs that you could recommend I keep an eye out for as a must try? Looks like you have sampled quite a few strains with a setup like that so if there are a few names I can keep an eye out for in my travels it might help narrow down what to try first when Im at the counter.
 
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Chicken No Name

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Wow!
Firstly, thanks for the detailed reply. Had a quick look at your insta acct. Will have detailed look later.

Secondly, don't have an issue with a little preground if stored correctly, as you obv do.

Thirdly, just wow. You lot with your legal herb. I struggle to manage more than 2 or 3 varieties in my groom so I rarely have more than a couple of flavours. But 42! Amazing....

(42) Is that deliberate or coincidence (I'm referring to the answer to 'the meaning of life, universe and everything....'. Which as we all know is, 42....

Thanks again.....
 

cannasoor

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That is quite the system you got going on there. Im still in the discovery phase of vape flavors and it takes me a while to work my way through what I do buy since I have a low tolerance. Do you have any stand outs that you could recommend I keep an eye out for as a must try? Looks like you have sampled quite a few strains with a setup like that so if there are a few names I can keep an eye out for in my travels it might help narrow down what to try first when Im at the counter.

Wow, that’s a tough one—I mean, I have strains that I like a lot, but I would think it varies a lot with personal taste and such. For what it's worth, though, some of my current faves are:
  • Ghost Train Haze: menthol and cedar wood, plus other woody (piney?) bits; the menthol gives this great “whoosh” effect.
  • Clementine: beautiful, bright orange flavor; the best “orange exemplar” I've found (I try to buy from Pistil Point when I can, a Portland regional grower); but see also Orange Juice, Tangelo and Tangie as other good orange-y strains.
  • Mount Hood Magic Durban: this is a Portland-specific strain so far, I think, but luscious woody flavors (see also Durban Poison).
  • Jack Herer: pine, and lime, and maybe just a touch of licorice (I’ve caught that component just once or twice on the first few hits); there are lots of JH variants, too, like Black Jack, J1, Galactic Jack, Jack Frost, Super Jack (with a touch of peppermint & vanilla).
  • Emerald Jack: another JH variant, but deserving of special mention, as it vies for my favorite with GTH, this one is more specifically pine, but somehow richer, bolstered up by some other things, and just glorious, like walking through a mossy forest in the mist (purportedly, Jim Belushi grows this on his farm down south of me—but I haven't been able to get down that way far enough to purchase from the shoppes he supplies … yet!).
  • Blueberry, True Blue, and Blue Magoo: all of these are good blueberry flavors, with TB being a “self-cross” (?) of BB, if I understand correctly; Blue Magoo has in addition a kind of brighter, sweeter component, too, like bubblegum.
  • Blue Dream: this is Blueberry-based, but it took me a while to identify that, and I nevertheless loved it from first hit, even before I knew it’s origin. There are some other things in there (sweet celery?? melon??) that I can’t quite identify, but whatever it all is, it’s very lovely; some of those things show up in Megafauna #4 and Lodi Dodi, I think, which are both delicious in their own right (LD is a bit fruitier; MF4 may be harder to find, as I have only seen it from local grower Deep Creek Gardens).
  • Northern Wreck: hard to describe, but the biggest component is sort of floral/perfume-y, with some of that same “whoosh” that is in the menthol in GTH, but then also a woodier flavor as well, one that sort of undergirds and grounds it.
There are lots of other strains I really like (Super Silver Haze, Dutch Treat, Montana Silvertip, …), plus plenty of things I find quite interesting, though not quite as compelling, or perhaps harder to describe. I spend a bit of time on Leafly and other places researching strain backgrounds, and way too much time shopping my local places online via Leafly and Dutchie.

(42) Is that deliberate or coincidence (I'm referring to the answer to 'the meaning of life, universe and everything....'.

Hah! It might have been deliberate at some other time, but no, this is just coincidence: I had three cases full and got a bit too over-eager, buying stuff up before I had available small vials to grind into. So I recruited another eyeglass case and put six “overflow” strains in there.

(Do I realize how incredibly spoiled I sound? Absolutely! I used to scoff, but privately wonder, at similar descriptions of strains & flavors that I read online, back before Oregon went legal. Now I am rolling around in 42 strains, hitting and giggling and gaping in wonder … . It’s a tough job, but somebody’s gotta do it!)
 

BallzMcVinegar

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Wow, that’s a tough one—I mean, I have strains that I like a lot, but I would think it varies a lot with personal taste and such. For what it's worth, though, some of my current faves are:
  • Ghost Train Haze: menthol and cedar wood, plus other woody (piney?) bits; the menthol gives this great “whoosh” effect.
  • Clementine: beautiful, bright orange flavor; the best “orange exemplar” I've found (I try to buy from Pistil Point when I can, a Portland regional grower); but see also Orange Juice, Tangelo and Tangie as other good orange-y strains.
  • Mount Hood Magic Durban: this is a Portland-specific strain so far, I think, but luscious woody flavors (see also Durban Poison).
  • Jack Herer: pine, and lime, and maybe just a touch of licorice (I’ve caught that component just once or twice on the first few hits); there are lots of JH variants, too, like Black Jack, J1, Galactic Jack, Jack Frost, Super Jack (with a touch of peppermint & vanilla).
  • Emerald Jack: another JH variant, but deserving of special mention, as it vies for my favorite with GTH, this one is more specifically pine, but somehow richer, bolstered up by some other things, and just glorious, like walking through a mossy forest in the mist (purportedly, Jim Belushi grows this on his farm down south of me—but I haven't been able to get down that way far enough to purchase from the shoppes he supplies … yet!).
  • Blueberry, True Blue, and Blue Magoo: all of these are good blueberry flavors, with TB being a “self-cross” (?) of BB, if I understand correctly; Blue Magoo has in addition a kind of brighter, sweeter component, too, like bubblegum.
  • Blue Dream: this is Blueberry-based, but it took me a while to identify that, and I nevertheless loved it from first hit, even before I knew it’s origin. There are some other things in there (sweet celery?? melon??) that I can’t quite identify, but whatever it all is, it’s very lovely; some of those things show up in Megafauna #4 and Lodi Dodi, I think, which are both delicious in their own right (LD is a bit fruitier; MF4 may be harder to find, as I have only seen it from local grower Deep Creek Gardens).
  • Northern Wreck: hard to describe, but the biggest component is sort of floral/perfume-y, with some of that same “whoosh” that is in the menthol in GTH, but then also a woodier flavor as well, one that sort of undergirds and grounds it.
There are lots of other strains I really like (Super Silver Haze, Dutch Treat, Montana Silvertip, …), plus plenty of things I find quite interesting, though not quite as compelling, or perhaps harder to describe. I spend a bit of time on Leafly and other places researching strain backgrounds, and way too much time shopping my local places online via Leafly and Dutchie.



Hah! It might have been deliberate at some other time, but no, this is just coincidence: I had three cases full and got a bit too over-eager, buying stuff up before I had available small vials to grind into. So I recruited another eyeglass case and put six “overflow” strains in there.

(Do I realize how incredibly spoiled I sound? Absolutely! I used to scoff, but privately wonder, at similar descriptions of strains & flavors that I read online, back before Oregon went legal. Now I am rolling around in 42 strains, hitting and giggling and gaping in wonder … . It’s a tough job, but somebody’s gotta do it!)
Thanks. I actually dont live too far from Jim Belushi and have ran into him a few times over the years. He is quite the character. Ill keep an eye out for some of these. There is always new variants that come out so fast that its hard to keep up or they are regional specific.
 
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cannasoor

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Thanks. I actually dont live too far from Jim Belushi and have ran into him a few times over the years. He is quite the character. Ill keep an eye out for some of these. There is always new variants that come out so fast that its hard to keep up or they are regional specific.

Hey, that’s cool! Tell him to grow more of that Emerald Jack, and send it up Portland way! I’ve never had his particular crop of EJ, but I understand he grows it under special circumstances (“light-deprived”), and I’m eager to try it out.

Oh, and if you want to sample some of his crop of EJ and are down near him, check out the Herbal Choices franchises in Sherman, Coos Bay, and Charleston, as they seem to have some. Here’s a link to the Leafly menu for the Sherman outlet. (But note that they’re closed until 9am tomorrow 😝—I’ve been eyeing those stocks enviously from afar for like a month now … .)

I always wonder if growers have been “enlightened” with regard to vaping … not so much for the health and efficiency reasons, but for the better flavor. I find that most of the budtenders and shoppe owners in my area are not so aware of dry flower vaping, or sometimes are aware and eager to learn, but not yet experienced with it. So I always wonder: why do smokers even bother that much with different strains? I mean, I think I could catch some of that flavor if I smoked it, but nowhere near as much, and I don't think I’d go pursuing multiple strains, or specific favorites, if I was just burning the stuff up.

The Lotus in particular (just to throw a little thread-relevance around …) gives such an in-depth account of flavor, especially in the first few hits, exposing complexity and nuance, that it’s a completely different experience. I mean, I haven’t smoked since I picked up my first vape way back when, but I don't recall having much sense of strain flavor when I did. (Maybe that was part of the skepticism I had when reading strain accounts online, as I got back into cannabis: it just didn’t make sense to me until I got fully into vaping.)
 

Chicken No Name

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(Do I realize how incredibly spoiled I sound? Absolutely! I used to scoff, but privately wonder, at similar descriptions of strains & flavors that I read online, back before Oregon went legal. Now I am rolling around in 42 strains, hitting and giggling and gaping in wonder … . It’s a tough job, but somebody’s gotta do it!)
Not spoilt.... More enthusiastic and taking advantage..... I would have 142 varieties if I could.....
 

staircase slight of hand

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There are lots of other strains I really like (Super Silver Haze, Dutch Treat, Montana Silvertip

Are there any Oregon farms you’d recommend for silvertip? I love it, but it’s rare to find in Portland (Bullrun is the only grower that I see it from regularly, but it’s not too frequent. My favorite grower was Jasper Hill, but I think they’ve been out of the commercial market for a long while now).
 
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  • Ghost Train Haze: menthol and cedar wood, plus other woody (piney?) bits; the menthol gives this great “whoosh” effect.
The GTH I had was like lemon-diesel taste, but it all depends with the phenotype I guess... great sativa high which lasts LONG..
 
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cannasoor

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Are there any Oregon farms you’d recommend for silvertip? I love it, but it’s rare to find in Portland (Bullrun is the only grower that I see it from regularly, but it’s not too frequent. My favorite grower was Jasper Hill, but I think they’ve been out of the commercial market for a long while now).

The times I've had it that have been best have also been Bull Run, purchased up in Portland, at the Silver Stem (in the Hollywood district). I've only ever had it from one other grower, Alter Farms, but it wasn't as good as the Bull Run (in my opinion). Actually, I recall that the budtender wasn't as fond of it, either: I got it at the same Silver Stem, and he didn't like it as much as the Bull Run they had carried prior.

I've since seen it a few times (but only a every 6-9 months) up and down the I-5 corridor, but never quite in reach at the right time.

I'd always wanted to try it from Raven Grass (a WA grower, I think), based on @CarolKing's recommendation here.
 

cx714

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Man, every time there’s a new post in the Lotus thread, I drop in hoping that someone’s bought or licensed production rights for a new batch.

But nope, so far only more reminders that there are risks to waiting for 4/20 or Black Friday or until there’s money in the bank account.
 

Woodisgood

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I notice that I get significant clogging of the screen after each use. I need to torch it clean after nearly every bowl. Even if I start with a coarse grind, stirring breaks the material down to a sticky dust in the screen mesh. Is there a way to reduce this effect?

Sorry to loop back to this point again, but just wondering is anyone else gets a lot of screen clogging with the lotus?
 

cannasoor

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Sorry to loop back to this point again, but just wondering is anyone else gets a lot of screen clogging with the lotus?

I have to say, I do not get clogs. I (apparently) grind quite fine (habit from MFLB/finishing grinder days, though I use a BCG now). In any case, I mainly use the black stem (less often an Orbiter), and usually brush out with a stiff-bristle brush after each use. About 1/10 times (?) I use a pipe cleaner down the black stem as well, and every other time like that, I fill the business end with alcohol (but "Everclear", not Iso), then plunge with the pipe cleaner, and rinse several times with water, then dry. Usually there is some dark & sticky "gunk" along the last inch or so of the pipe cleaner on those runs, and you can see similar residue wash out on the full rinses, but not much, and I never clean "forced" due to draw issues or blockage, just time and tidiness.

Do you brush your screen out after use? I really don't see clogs even then, just dust mainly around the inner surface of the tall cylinder of the chamber. (I am not sure which screen I have, but if I had to guess, I would say coarse.)
 
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