The Lotus Vaporizer
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Eyedunno
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I cough maybe once in five bowls (and even when it happens, it's a small cough) with the dry stem, because I take (and enjoy) more delicate, measured hits. Usually within a second of feeling vapor in the back of my throat, I remove the heat. And lately, I've been restricting myself to even shorter hits sometimes (about 6 seconds), and I'm finding that this is really where the flavor is.Nevertheless guys, dry hits give you stiff throat. Although they're tastier and to an extend more powerful, they will get you coughing much easier than a bubbler/bong. The hits you take with those, are enormous!
I personally prefer any water tool to the stem or a pipe but the stem works like a charm and for outdoor use is just what you need! 4x4 off road!
I also maintain a low tolerance though. I'm honestly surprised by how much a lot of people vape/smoke, when 0.05g can keep me going for a couple hours at least.
I really appreciate a lot of things about the design of the WPA, and agree with others on here that it's truly a superior design (though personally I'd prefer a more substantial handle), but I nonetheless wish I hadn't paid extra for it, as the pipe stem is so satisfying for me. I did just have another go with the WPA in my Transformer Tubes bong with steel ice in the chamber, and it was very nice. Just that bongs have never really been my thing, and the E-nano/D020-D combo is better for the rare occasions I want water.
But hell, when I combusted I was primarily a metal pipe smoker, despite having probably six glass spoons and two bongs, so take that as you will. I sometimes feel like I might as well be a fan of Nickelback or something.
I did convert my favorite metal pipe (bought over 18 years ago) into a VaporGenie, and that's awesome to use sometimes, for old times' sake.
lazylathe
Almost there...
Quick torch update!
From this post:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-lotus-vaporizer.2595/page-242#post-910294
I have been using a Benzomatic soldering torch with my Lotus and have not yet refilled it once!
Used everyday numerous times and not one hitch or sputter of the flame.
Just need another lighter/torch to light the Benzomatic... But the solid, stable flame every time wins for me!
Lotus cap:
I have a screen installed in the cap, had to disassemble it to install correctly but it is an easy process.
Zero combustion since installing the screen! I used to get tiny areas if i overdid it with the torch but not since the screen. Maybe from better heat dispersion from all the holes in the screen?
Question:
When i received my Lotus in a trade it came with a small plastic packet that contains:
1 X black bristled cleaning brush
1 X metal scoop/poker tool
2 X small metal screens
What are the small metal screens for? They look like they are stamped out of a piece of metal but do not really fit anywhere... Any ideas?
I could not find them on the Lotus website either?
From this post:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-lotus-vaporizer.2595/page-242#post-910294
I have been using a Benzomatic soldering torch with my Lotus and have not yet refilled it once!
Used everyday numerous times and not one hitch or sputter of the flame.
Just need another lighter/torch to light the Benzomatic... But the solid, stable flame every time wins for me!
Lotus cap:
I have a screen installed in the cap, had to disassemble it to install correctly but it is an easy process.
Zero combustion since installing the screen! I used to get tiny areas if i overdid it with the torch but not since the screen. Maybe from better heat dispersion from all the holes in the screen?
Question:
When i received my Lotus in a trade it came with a small plastic packet that contains:
1 X black bristled cleaning brush
1 X metal scoop/poker tool
2 X small metal screens
What are the small metal screens for? They look like they are stamped out of a piece of metal but do not really fit anywhere... Any ideas?
I could not find them on the Lotus website either?
voodoo_vape
Vapour RebeL
I cough maybe once in five bowls (and even when it happens, it's a small cough) with the dry stem, because I take (and enjoy) more delicate, measured hits. Usually within a second of feeling vapor in the back of my throat, I remove the heat. And lately, I've been restricting myself to even shorter hits sometimes (about 6 seconds), and I'm finding that this is really where the flavor is.
I also maintain a low tolerance though. I'm honestly surprised by how much a lot of people vape/smoke, when 0.05g can keep me going for a couple hours at least.
I really appreciate a lot of things about the design of the WPA, and agree with others on here that it's truly a superior design (though personally I'd prefer a more substantial handle), but I nonetheless wish I hadn't paid extra for it, as the pipe stem is so satisfying for me. I did just have another go with the WPA in my Transformer Tubes bong with steel ice in the chamber, and it was very nice. Just that bongs have never really been my thing, and the E-nano/D020-D combo is better for the rare occasions I want water.
But hell, when I combusted I was primarily a metal pipe smoker, despite having probably six glass spoons and two bongs, so take that as you will. I sometimes feel like I might as well be a fan of Nickelback or something.
I know what you mean with those small & quick hits, the flavored ones. I've tried them as well when I'm outside they're just what you need, excellent taste as well.
The amount that people either vape or smoke can be related to whether they're on their own or with friends. Personally, when I'm alone with things to do, I will be more than fine with 2-3 .07-bowls for the night (in bed at 1). When with friends I can easily vape double the amount without even knowing how
I just tried what you're suggesting, if I properly understood, and except the fact that your throat my get a little bit cooler with your finger on the hole there isn't really any better that way. I think I prefer with the screw on.
EDIT:
It came down to this one reg the torch. I don't know why, it seemed to me a bit big with a kind of solid design plus the price is a bargain so I ordered 5 of those. I will let ya know when they arrive.
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voodoo_vape
Vapour RebeL
This thread keeps on staying low and it's such a shame!!
To the point now. I recently had to re-open the flower cap (unscrew it etc) in order to clean the inside since it got some minor crystals and probably tiny bits of herb in it due to an unfortunate exhale of mine while I was on the bubbler mouthpiece....
To my disappointment I saw that one of my lotus screws does not fits well anymore and it turns like mad. So I'm with a 2-screw cap on now... Doesn't really make a difference when vaping but I can hear minor sounds when the plate gets heated up. Do you guys reckon this will damage my lotus in the long run?
What do you recommend for the 3rd screw? Should I try getting just a bit thicker screw or shall I try moving the plate by half-turn and screw it to different holes?
To the point now. I recently had to re-open the flower cap (unscrew it etc) in order to clean the inside since it got some minor crystals and probably tiny bits of herb in it due to an unfortunate exhale of mine while I was on the bubbler mouthpiece....
To my disappointment I saw that one of my lotus screws does not fits well anymore and it turns like mad. So I'm with a 2-screw cap on now... Doesn't really make a difference when vaping but I can hear minor sounds when the plate gets heated up. Do you guys reckon this will damage my lotus in the long run?
What do you recommend for the 3rd screw? Should I try getting just a bit thicker screw or shall I try moving the plate by half-turn and screw it to different holes?
Spocks_Katra
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stlll eyeing up the high temp plate and jhook combo, can anyone with the high temp plate give me a quick review of your thoughts?
lazylathe
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@voodoo_vape
I must bid this thread goodbye!
My much loved Lotus has been retired and if i can bear parting with her, she will show up in the classifieds here.
I have never been able to get perfect results all the time, very good but definitely not consistent.
Almost always have some green specks in the ABV.
My new Supreme 3 has taken over as my butane vape of choice all the time!
I still bust the Lotus out a few times a week, that flavor...
I must bid this thread goodbye!
My much loved Lotus has been retired and if i can bear parting with her, she will show up in the classifieds here.
I have never been able to get perfect results all the time, very good but definitely not consistent.
Almost always have some green specks in the ABV.
My new Supreme 3 has taken over as my butane vape of choice all the time!
I still bust the Lotus out a few times a week, that flavor...
Eyedunno
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Two things:
1) Follow the advice earlier in the thread and put a screen inside the cap. Takes some time to get it in there right, but after that, smooth sailing.
2) To fix your screw threading, how about this?
http://www.amazon.com/Woodmate-2498...263_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0AE6WWJKQ3K9XA5FEXDE
It should only take a VERY tiny piece (you can cut it with scissors). I've used this stuff for years and swear by it.
HellsWindStaff
Dharma Initiate
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This is funny, I have had the Lotus for over a year and I admittedly don't use it ALL that much, but its chiefly because I have been unable to really perfect my technique as well. I always get different results, 9/10 have a little char because by god I'm not going to undervape it! Lol. Sometimes I open it up and it looks relatively vaped, and I think I can get another hit and that is usually the one that chars me.
To be 100% honest though, I don't mind the taste of a little char. I could easily not get it, if I took the time to really master it, but I have fun kinda throwing the weed in the Lotus and just letting it ride out! It's never disappointing, but some sessions are definitely better than others. I think quality of product too may have been an issue at the time....I have been using it a bit more recently, but it is by far my least used vape in my arsenal, but I would like to change it! It is quite fun to use, maybe I can get the technique down perfect....
All said, I don't think it's the Lotus's fault I get inconsistent results. I kind of have the same problem with the Vapman, and to a lesser degree the Hammer. I actually like the Vapcap most of all my butanes because it has the audible click that lets you know you're at temp...only combusted once, and that's cause I heated up past the click!
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
natural farmer
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Not everyone can handle a racing car and Lotus is a freaking hot race car! Once you get the hold of it though...
Poostuff
Please delete
Thanks mate I know, I was just annoyed the exchange rate put the lotus out of my reach for a while, it looks a bit fun & I think I'd enjoy it. I haven't made a glass or vape purchase for a while & I'm getting itchy feet. No disposable income right now. I know what I want I'm happy to wait, or make the wife work harder am I right
voodoo_vape
Vapour RebeL
You have a point with the color of the ABV, but as it has been mentioned, a little bit of char taste is not really bad with the Lotus. Personally, I tend to get dark-ish enough ABV which makes me happy to see. I do get some green parts from time to time and I just put the thing back in the pot to take another small hit just to get rid of all the green part!
Supreme 3 although I have read good reports and reviews about it, something turns me away from it. Probably the design.
I'm thinking on buying another one before GH arrives otherwise, I see my little lotus not lasting long with that pace..
1. I have already applied the screen inside it, although it doesn't really holds very tight up there and once or twice I've seen it getting out of place.
2. Amazing shit!! I will check with a local large retailer (ie Praktiker or similar) to see if I can get hold of it without having to wait for shipment otherwise I'll be ordering a set of those ASAP! The only thing that worries me is the fact that some part of the wooden element has already been almost burnt to char. Will this make the screw fit better or will it destroy my cap?
Vapcap is one that I would give it a go as well and is under consideration.
Vaponic is the other that I was thinking of and looks pretty discrete and capable of getting u as medicated as you want to as well.
Generally, I'm not really up for flame vaporizers although for some reason they seem to me more reliable than those operating with batteries but on the contrary, you have less hasle and procedures with the electronic ones than having to heat it up etc.
The best WPA and may I add, the best metal stem as well!!
That's what I'm talking about!!
Serial gear transmission box and rear wheel power will just blow your mind away!!
sativasam
NO SMOKING
Your experience is exactly how I would describe mine. I know that some people may like darker ABV than others. And maybe that is why others here do not report the same problems as us. I am used to vapour created from temps below 190c and I personally am going for a light to medium brown ABV. Nothing close to dark brown or black. I haven't yet tried any more herbs in the Lotus for fear of waste and charred vapour, but I have been using it regularly with a decent sticky hash.
I took the advice from the kind people here of going for the quick heat up time. I pretty much use my Lotus like a Vapman. I heat until the plate it red hot, then as soon (or before) as I take a draw I take the flame away. Since I started doing this I have had much more controllable vapour. Less charring and chokey. I'm happy with this unit for hash. I prefer it to using my Mighty. It tastes better, and overall it is easier as there is only one screen to clean (rather than an extra liquid pad). Its the only unit that I can use hash easily and regularly without hassle.
voodoo_vape
Vapour RebeL
Lotus and vapman are probably one of the best solutions for hash/solid.. Especially the amount of hits and cloud that you get even with tiny bits in both of them is just amazing.
Vapman is probably more discrete since you just heat it up and then you inhale the vapor.
Reg your heating session I would suggest that you don't take the flame away as soon as you see the red spot but just increase the distance from the plate and see how the vapor goes.
@Eyedunno do you reckon that these little "teeth" will fit in the lotus hole? Isn't it too small for it. Anyway, I will see if I can get hold of any and try it out. In case I see a lot of pressure/resistance applied I won't use it at all.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I'm not surprised
We are all different and have different needs!
I like the LOTUS and have no problem using it?
It's under a $100?
OK it's like a joint.
I don't think I'll sell mine.
Did you stir?
My ABV is even?
)
Eyedunno
Well-Known Member
I agree about the uneven vapeage, but it has gotten better with technique and with using smaller bowls (~1/12 tsp). My E-nano also leaves some green around the edges. Actually, the only vape I still have that consistently vapes the herb every time is the Plenty, and that is a craptastic vape (but note that others' mileage may vary, and it's still one of Vape Critic's top three desktop units, IIRC, and I still hang onto mine in case it becomes useful, like for vaping with n00bs).
Edit: I LOVE seeing these wooden stems. I don't want one for myself because the aluminum stem works great for me, but still, I love seeing people's work.
I'm not completely positive it will fit, but I have used it in some tiny screw holes. Just need to cut a really thin piece and put it down only one side of the hole (the screw should bite into it and into the wood on the other side. Or hell, you might be able to do the same thing with a tiny sliver of coke can or something, since you're probably gonna have to cut it too thin to get much benefit from the "teeth" you speak of anyway.
Edit: I LOVE seeing these wooden stems. I don't want one for myself because the aluminum stem works great for me, but still, I love seeing people's work.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I threw a lot of COLAS away of CANNABIS (GSC so no big issue) 5.75OZ
Once I grew too much DUTCH CRUNCH and threw away 7.10 OZ's.
Where I live you can only have 8.0oz's at a time.
However I'm a light weight compared to you.
1gram per day is all the flower I vaporize.
0.25 SHATTER is all I can handle.
You make me feel weak!
Hopefully when my EVO arrives I'll try and keep up with you!
The LOTUS is tasty and gets me super medicated.
OK I love CANNABIS more than devices!
My LOTUS is all burnt and not pretty however works fine.
I will keep the LOTUS in my rotation.