The HI

[ilovebOObs]

Damn boobs. Your so smooth with those videos. All I got goin for me is this "manly stache" cuz my videos SUCK:

my vids are nothing special compared to others, i'm just like you buddy no editing at all. heheh
btw still jealous of that stache man!!!

@BDV i normal pack 1/3 -1/2 bowl. i normall get about 2-4 hits out of a bowl.

 

[Tom]

That is Hi-ghly upsetting.

 

[Jeppy]

It used to be an unwritten rule and understanding that a JEDHI in training was required to read the entire 'HI' thread prior to rite of passage.

We must not allow infiltration!

 

[Vape N Bake]

I read all 101 pages. Now I have to wait 6+ months for training to begin!

 

[ilovebOObs]

my new roasting setup

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Congratulations on your new rusty old pipe pipe.

EDIT: After a break from the HI (too much, too fast)... I'm giving some more attention to the CRZ roasting tube. Woo! Hits like a Mack truck, it does. Not harsh like, but Holy crap its a big mouthful of vapor. Loading it once, with such a tiny amount, can get you quite toasted.

EDIT II: Found out about MDTL - Mysterious Disappearing Tube Loads. Freshened the CRZ tube up, took a wicked large hit... pulled away... coughed. Went to stir my load. No load. I look. I'm looking thru a screen. WTF?

 

[u bwade wunner]

Hey boobs i like your e style.ive had a similar idea for a pipe like this.Made in nova scotia they were quality designed by the guys grandad.I had an idea to use it as stem.they are beautifully made from $59-$79.the dwarf i think is the nicest

Its actually 12 ins long..Another option is incorporating an aquavape mid stem to help draw vapor up.I m sure the guy would do customsized bowl too to take a glass or SS tube and screen..funds wont allow right now.but ive bookmarked the site for now till later on.

Anywayz i like what you've done.different .How does it hit.I guess its for a slow sit down sesh?Or does it work for a quick one too? something relaxing about a pipe style mod

I got an email from Alan and he will be cutting up my wood after the move.Im dead excited to see what pops out of those blocks.He has said they should be special when they re finished.It will be nice to see a toasty top again too on the Hi thread .

edit just spotted this. Aluminium for holding your Hi glass or wooden stems $9.These will work with the larger CRZ stems too which measure 14.6 mm.each hole is 15mm.somewhere to put your stems and wont take up much space in your e vape area.

anyway happy Hi times everyone No music so ive decided to add this 9 minutes of Pure energy from the Modfathers The Who.This needs to be played at full blast.meet the new boss same as the old boss my fave group of all time.fYeah!

 

[Alan]

stickstones - I tried the finer mesh screen in a turbo tube and had to change it after the third bowl because it was getting too plugged for good air flow. It did seem to let a little less particulate through. The stirring creates a lot of the particles I have found. You probably don't have as much stirring with the Cloud like you do with the HI. I can make you some finer mesh screens if you would like to try them.

mvapes - Thanks for the art comparison. Each unit requires a fair amount of precision and craftsmanship. A wonderful union of wood and metal. Looking forward to a new shop but am not having fun with the move. The waiting is hard, but will be so nice when it is time.

Jeppy - Glad the new element arrived safely and you got it changed out. I'm very happy with that design feature. Thanks for posting the video. Looks like your HIsaber is working well.

bOObs - Your videos always make me want to buy a HI. Such nice glassware although the desktop made it hard to focus on the glass. Very nice glass pipe. Is that copper covered glass?

BigDaddyVapor - The number of hits may not be the best gauge of performance since the potency of the strain can make a big difference some times. Some people have monster lungs which can reduce the hit count. Glad you are having success with the dimpled SS tube. Very nice for a quick hit or two. MDTL can also get particles in the heater cavity. The removable heater lets you clean it if that happens.

u bwade wunner - Very nice looking pipe. I started making wood pipes just before getting into vaporizers so haven't made any more. I suppose I could insert a piece of 13mm glass tubing into a pipe bowl and then use a HI upside down to roast in the glass lined bowl. Something else to try.
Lipstick or pen/pencil holders are other options for tube holders. A vintage test tube rack would be very cool and hold lots of tubes. Thanks for the video.

 

[mvapes]

its been too fucking long

Bro - I love that piece - really cool set up.

 

[kingofnull]

Alan, any idea when you will be able to start making units again?

 

[stickstones]

Alan...if you are using the same resistor as the PD's, then my PD adapter should be fine long term, yes? Unless the difference in the log design has changed the stress on the resistor?

 

[ilovebOObs]

Hey boobs i like your e style.ive had a similar idea for a pipe like this.Made in nova scotia they were quality designed by the guys grandad.I had an idea to use it as stem.they are beautifully made from $59-$79.the dwarf i think is the nicest

Its actually 12 ins long..Another option is incorporating an aquavape mid stem to help draw vapor up.I m sure the guy would do customsized bowl too to take a glass or SS tube and screen..funds wont allow right now.but ive bookmarked the site for now till later on.

Anywayz i like what you've done.different .How does it hit.I guess its for a slow sit down sesh?Or does it work for a quick one too? something relaxing about a pipe style mod

we really do have the same style, i really wanted something like you post but in glass, but was never able to find one, maybe will custom one one of these days.

bOObs - Your videos always make me want to buy a HI. Such nice glassware although the desktop made it hard to focus on the glass. Very nice glass pipe. Is that copper covered glass?

yeah the metal was electro formed over the glass, not really sure if its copper or something else.

Bro - I love that piece - really cool set up.

thanks man. one of my fav pieces too, i recently got it repaired.

 

[Kuroth1]

my new roasting setup

Good lord that looks like some Alien Dildo or something....

 

[Alan]

Alan...if you are using the same resistor as the PD's, then my PD adapter should be fine long term, yes? Unless the difference in the log design has changed the stress on the resistor?

The resistor is the same, but the ability to remove heat from the resistor is much different. The PD was essentially a heat sink for the resistor. The harder / more dense the wood, the better it pulled heat away and it ran cooler. The larger size provided more wood / surface area to absorb the heat.
The HI creates an island that significantly reduces the rate that heat leaves the resistor. This is why it can achieve the roasting temperatures with less than 12 volts applied. The PD adapter may be putting out much more than 12 volts which can start affecting the taste due to the higher temperatures. Each adapter may have a slightly different output voltage. A regulated power supply will provide for more consistent voltage / temperature. The resistors are a snap to change out should they become accidentally damaged.

Alan, any idea when you will be able to start making units again?

There are a few unknowns at this point, but it won't be soon enough for me. I know it is tough on people waiting too. Thanks for your patience.

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Alan...if you are using the same resistor as the PD's, then my PD adapter should be fine long term, yes? Unless the difference in the log design has changed the stress on the resistor?

Have you decided to use a vvps yet? I think it might really help your problem.

My observations so far. It appears, if I keep the 1st couple of draws of the HI below 11.5 (11.35 seems to be my sweet spot, for the pull I like and vapor production), it greatly reduces the amount of phlegm I build up. I tested quite a bit, last night. When its ready to finish off (and I believe this is because of the dryness, at this point)... I can crank it up to 11.8 and get the last bit out, without a cough.

I went thru a LOT of coughing fits yesterday, trying to figure this out, because of the correlation of it happening with the Box to.

After watching bOObs latest and my own experience of the amount I was getting out of each tube, I decided to drop the amount I was loading, that seem to make a difference to. I'm guessing, because less plant material, less moisture. I believe in my case, its more to do with the moisture from the plant material. Dryer goes smoother for me, while the wetter stuff, causes the heavy phlegm.

Voltage keep it below 11.5, except to cache it out
DRY bud, load 2-4 hit tubes (unlike my overachieving 6-8)

I've also noted, following those two items, the piece I'm using has less effect on the outcome, as I previously believed.

EDIT: Yep, I tried it again. Going with the big BDV, running those temps... one cough, that brought up a bit of gunk and everything else, smooth sailing...

EDIT II: So, I believe your only glass is the Mobius (lucky)... I'll trade you ANY 2 pieces for it (wait. never mind. ). Anyway, I think my BL Saxo, probably comes closest to simulating it. True, $350-400 vs $100. Big difference. But, having watched videos, the (lack-of) drag and pull look to be the same. I'm pretty sure I have more air volume than you, however.

I started out, with a half full load. Light, fluffy pack. I set the vvps to 11.35. Its a top-shelf Sativa and gets 1-2 pulls over my other strains. I got 2 THICK hits, neither brought up phlegm. My 3 and 4th hits, were lighter... but still had some umph to them and visible vapor on exhale (I think the HI always has visible vapor). 3rd hit, worked up a bit of a cough, which loosened minimal amount of phlegm.

At this point, I couldn't get anything more from it. I cranked it up to 11.8, got a wispy hit. Though, no problem with the heat. This led me to crank it up to 12.15. I ended up getting 2 more wispy hits at that point and it was a dead trench.

It really appears to be a combination of your cure, or more importantly, how you heat it up. I know you like thick, bong-style hits and don't like "sipping" off your piece. I think those voltages will do you well. I highly recommend you return to a vvps (I was unclear on if you have one)... or get one. Don't buy the cheap $25 one I got. Get the actual Hildebrandt for $40, with the brushed metal and you'll be SET. Anyone can take care of the cables for you, if you need help with those.

I meant to ask. Do you use the wide mouth GonG tube, or the Turbo Tube? This was all done with the GonG. Or if there's anything you can think of, that I can do to recreate your setup. I just know, since the VVPS the phlegm has slowly been abating.

 

[Alan]

All this talk of particulates and water filtration got me to thinking about a problem with my shop vac. The filter is always getting plugged and then it looses suction. So I modified it based on how a bong works for water filtration.
I cut slots in a 1-1/2" pvc pipe and attached it to an elbow. It fits perfectly into the opening without any modification required to the hole or elbow. It comes out very easily for cleaning. The suction hose still fits into the outside of the hole. I had to cut a deflection shield off from the lid because it was in the way of the pvc elbow. I removed the paper filter from inside and add water to the first ring in the bottom. The dirt and dust must now go through the pvc pipe and elbow before getting trapped in the water just like similar to a rainbow vacuum cleaner. I just flush the water down the toilet when I'm done. It never looses suction since there is no filter to plug. It can go from dry to wet vacuum without having to make any changes since it is really always in wet vac mode.
Now I need to figure out how to make a small one for the HI.

Edit - The bottom of the tube rests on the bottom of the container. The water level is about 1.5" above the slits so the incoming dirty air must go through the water first. Anything too large to go through the slots will stay in the tube until you clean it out. I started with narrow slots and then widened them to allow larger particles.

 

[u bwade wunner]

So the slits are above water or below the surface of water like a bubbler Alan?. if above the water surface how does the water trap all theairborne dust inside the chamber.tends to be a little bit like smoke and float about and head towards the motor.

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Below.

 

[u bwade wunner]

Might have to try that. bound to be lots of turbulence with that fancy slit perc under water.those shop vacs kick out at force.Mine has a 2 inch hose coming out of it and it will stick to the floor when its on.

will have a play Im due a shed tidy so that new vac system will give me some time out from tidying.not sure i can match youre tight perc slits though alan Awesome work!

loving that sidecar mouthpiece boobs no bends straight to the brain.Thanks for the Vid.its a tough call though between that and the Syn piece you had.slim bought it i think.that was a beauty!

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Reading thru some more pages... bOObs description for a video (one I haven't seen before), "Just playing with my little willie "

TMI, bOObs, TMI.

Customer Service

Before my HI cracked, I noticed that my VV PS wasn't getting my HI as hot as it had been during the first 2-3 days of use (as was noticed by a few other owners as well). After contacting Alan to tell him this (I believe I brought the issue up to him before any other owners), he immediately offered to send me a replacement. He actually ended up sending both a new VV and a non-VV, giving me plenty of options to test out.

When my HI cracked, Alan similarly offered me a replacement unit. I told him not to rush, and to get more HIs out to the people patiently waiting to get their units since mine is still perfectly functional for now. Alan was extremely fast and helpful in his responses to both of these issues.

Alan was similarly helpful before I received my HI. I sent him a TON of questions, mostly about tubes, and he was very helpful and answered everything thoroughly.

I've got a crack in mine, its about an 1 1/2" long, curves over the top about an 1/16" and the majority runs down vertical from the top. It hasn't grown or widened. I thought it might have, but when I showed Alan the pics, he said it hadn't grown. Well, I believe him... because I see it every day. It hasn't. Plus, as he pointed out, I'm really doing an endurance test on this wood. The Sumac is beautiful and once I get a blacklight, I'll show everyone, how cool, it REALLY is (yes, it glows under blacklight).

Back to the point, I think I can say thank you, from us all... for having the opportunity to replace your unit, but because function was unaffected, you opted to wait. Very cool Karma points there, my friend, for a very unselfish act.

I keep meaning to ask. Is OK for Oklahoma?

EDIT: So I've been doing some more testing on the "Lung Butter" (dunno why I wasn't using that, so much more pleasant than phlegm). Just like the MFLB and being picky about its grind/cure... the HI is the same way with cure, IMHO. Or, at least the way you vape it. Probably not the same for everyone... but for people that do have issues with excessive Lung Butter, I hope this helps.

I was trying to get the last bit of some of the leftovers from a Q-Tip soaked with whip honey, with not much success in the 10mm Turbo Tube with nipple. So I removed the nipple and still not much luck. I've been wanting to play with this tube more... but was having more fun with the others (wow, was I missing out!). Particularly the 14mm GonG tube.

However, I found a container of non-cached top-shelf mix. Mostly Indica loads, I passed out during and replaced with Sativa in the morning for wake-n-vape. So this stuff was definitely dry enough. I started out on 12vdc, because I already knew the heat wasn't an issue. To my pleasant surprise, I pulled a full sweet, flavorful hit off it. Nothing much after that. Well, figuring what the Hell? I haven't combusted yet, I cranked it up to 12.52 (in comparison, my fvps read about 12.27).

Left the nipple off, HI humming along at 12.52vdc, turbo tube locked and loaded, load looking expired. Pulled the final and cached, no Lung Butter hit.

EDIT II: I've discovered, that you all REALLY need to quit side-tracking Alan with ideas. LOL! Everyone would probably have a HI, if it weren't for all the little side trips he makes in his mind's eye.

EDIT III: Kind of a "duh" moment, but I had been using the 10mm with my "RooR" downstem, because its the only nice one I have that the turbo tube fits in. The messed up thing, is my 18/14 reducer, has a little lip at the bottom, that prevents the 10mm from fitting thru. Wait a second!, I thought to myself. I opened up my little HI/VB kit and removed the extra piece of silicone that Alan sent with the HIsaber. Slipped it on the bottom end of the TT... lo and behold, it fits in everything now! Like I said, kind of dumb. But, I still got excited... going to do another night session with the Saxo. As I figured it would work well with the Cloud, which jam confirms... but I know the HIsaber works exceptionally well with the Saxo. Now I get to try this wonderful TT I've discovered. Amazing the things you overlook, because they don't look like something that interests you. I asked Alan for the ability to hook up to my glass, he sent me standard TT and the 14mm ground glass. Plus, the CRZ roasting tube. I've been hooked on the 14mm and dismissed the 10mm, that is... until tonight. I really like being able to extend the "bowl" by just adjusting the silicone.

OH ALAN! You wanted feedback. The one thing I don't particularly like about the glass CRZ tube, is the ID of the glass, feels too big to me. Hitting like that, I'm used to the more restrictive flow of the MFLB. I'm not saying, it should be that restrictive and I KNOW the big thing of the HIsaber, is the free flow of air. It just feels like TOO much to me. It comes fast and in this HUGE cloud of vapor. I always thought of the CRZ as more of a "Sipper". I think I would very much like it, in wood, with a tighter ID. Plus, the glass... at that size, I'm kind of like Vito. I don't like the clink on my teeth.

 

[OhTheAgony]

we really do have the same style, i really wanted something like you post but in glass, but was never able to find one, maybe will custom one one of these days.


yeah the metal was electro formed over the glass, not really sure if its copper or something else.

Cool looking pipe you got yourself there Boobs, would you mind telling us a little more about it?

Like where, by who, how much, what's that tube sticking out of it?

If you'd like a glass pipe that looks like the pipe Bwade posted try contacting FC member CharlieDontSurf. He blows a gandalf pipe (I think that's what he calls them) that looks a lot like it imo & he doesn't ask a whole lot for it.

Alright, I better catch up on my reading & see how that bucket I saw up there^^ comes in to play

 

[Jeppy]

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Wow, been finding out a LOT of stuff about the HI, my strains, cure and just a whole bunch of different combinations of apparatuses, voltages... ack! My brain is going into overload.

sticks... keep reading.

I tested my FVPS on VDC and it sits at 12.24. When I first got it, I had trouble controlling combustion with that. Hell, tonight I was running it up to 13, without issue. Interesting results I found, from slow roasts to hot (fast) roasts.

One observation, is on a slow roast... while you can enjoy the different flavors and work your way up to 13vdc, you won't ever get that deep dark brown (at least I couldn't). I even started the load out at 11.5, then 12.0, 12.25 (the FVPS vdc), then up to 13. Looking at the herb under a 100x handscope reveals the slightest of frosting still visible on the herb. I didn't want to push the HI past that. I don't know what the limits are (though I figure more than 13vdc... I'll wait for confirmation. haven't seen/noticed/remembered it in the thread to where I'm at). However, if I start it out hot, right off the bat... say at 11.75, then follow it up with quick 12.25vdc... I seem to get a much darker roast. Fewer hits, but I think the volume of the hotter burn hits, make up for it.

Plus, still working on my theories of Lung Butter, I've somehow avoided any real issues today. Though, I think its keeping it under that initial 12vdc. A too hot pull, hits too hard and is most definitely responsible for more fouling/dirtying my glass. Same stuff going on my glass, from a too hot, too soon roast... is going into my breathing tract and kicking up phlegm. As long as I extract below that range, for the 1st 2 hits... seems to be working well. Something to think about, sticks. Again, I know you like thick bong-style rips. You will most certainly get them, anything over 11.5vdc, really starting about 11.75vdc... then up to where perhaps the PD runs (I think I read you using one of those or the UD PS. I don't know their voltages). Try hitting it once, then a stir, then again... below that 12vdc threshold to see if you get similar results. Hell, you might even be able to start out at 12.0vdc, I haven't tried. I really like the flavor and hit of that 11.5 - 11.75 for the initial draws, but those are my tastes. Just avoid the real high vdc/temps out the gate.

Using mostly the BDV, worked my way over to the Saxo for nighttime Indica.

Finally, I don't believe I ever posted any HIsaber Sumac highlighted pics. So here they are.

Excuse my 8' power cable. LOL!

You can see the crack in the next 3 pictures, if you don't look that hard. lol. Middle, top of the piece, looks about an 1" (its a bit longer)

Holes I drilled into the POS VVPS. They help significantly lowering the temperature. Crack at 6 o'clock

Love the striking grain. You can't see it in the pictures really, but there's lots of different colors in this wood. At some angles, you'll even catch a hint of like a fluorescent greenish hue as the grains go from lighter to darker. Crack at 1 o'clock.

P.S. I'm about 1/2 way thru my JedHI reading material. I hope, though its a lifelong journey (I'm kind of in a rush there. lol)... I will have proven my mettle and may proudly wear the JedHI BDV title with pride.

EDIT: HA! I have invented THE PERFECT HIsaber stirring tool! I got it from something I saw on bOObs' desk. Here it is. 2nd pic looks sloppy, but its actually much cleaner in person. I ground down the end a bit, so it wouldn't catch on the screen. It has enough wiggle room to turn it slightly and allow to get in the corners/crevices. If you corkscrew it, to pull herb up from the bottom, it will do so, with minimum crushing/grinding of the dried herb... helping keep your screen cleaner and unobstructed for longer periods. I've found with the 2 stage HI/HIgher temp/draws, little cleaning is needed afterwards. Especially when your stirrer keeps it mostly fluffy.

 

[ilovebOObs]

Cool looking pipe you got yourself there Boobs, would you mind telling us a little more about it?

Like where, by who, how much, what's that tube sticking out of it?

If you'd like a glass pipe that looks like the pipe Bwade posted try contacting FC member CharlieDontSurf. He blows a gandalf pipe (I think that's what he calls them) that looks a lot like it imo & he doesn't ask a whole lot for it.

Alright, I better catch up on my reading & see how that bucket I saw up there^^ comes in to play

its a BM pick up. ghost cat made the j-hook and big pizzle did the electro forming. plus only cost me $60 so thats pretty awesome. the tube sticking out is Alan's ss tip, i'll attach some more pics so you get a better view of the setup. you can pretty much add what ever tip you like and roast away

thanks for recommending CDS, i will contact him about it. i want something like that but with a gong setup instead of a bowl.

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Today, my brothers and sisters I stand (sitting really) before you. My eyes have been opened and I realized the purpose, meaning and path of the JedHI. Its a solo journey of wonder and knowledge, yet shared in a common bond... The HIForce.

It was a journey that began with a torched tube/herb and has evolved into sweet spots and anything your mind might imagine. Look at it and you will see, the purposes come together, in your mind's eye. What once thought to limit you, expands your horizons and finds its niche. You stand, wondering... what the HIForce, will allow you to see next, as you learn to be one with it.

Today, after a long night... finishing up my "required" reading of the thread (I am SO pissed at you bOObs and VH. You two, said the reading of the thread was mandatory and there was a test... jerks. ). Anyway, I had seen this configuration and it suddenly clicked. Oh @#$%! I can make that to! Drop down the voltage and BAM nice quick toke in glass!

I didn't have THAT tube, when Alan sent me my package!

I grow stronger. I can feel the light, the harmony... the peace and serenity. My day is rapidly approaching...

BTW, any log vape collectors, during my reading I noted people using alternate power supplies with the HI, in case of burned out VV's and such. If you still don't have a Variable Voltage power supply, you might be able to use all those power plugs, the same way. Find out which 2 or 3, run at different temps and run the combo, or the one, you like the most. Easy workaround a VVPS.

EDIT: And a Page Topper! DESTINY, I TELL YA!!!

EDIT II: Can I go to the MFLB thread and tell newbies, they have to read all 700+ pages, before they can have one? Please...