The Grasshopper

[Skored]

I love using concentrate pads (stainless steel) and convection - the best flavor all the way to the end. I think the problem with these pads will be their diameter vs. that of the Grasshopper. So some manipulation might be necessary. But it will definitely work if it can fit in the Hopper.

On that note, I emailed Trevor about this last week. He said they are exploring various options, of which one is a drop in pad of some sort that fits the Hopper.

 

[Just Justin]

I would like to draw this discussion away from speculation about order numbers and potential shipping dates, instead to talk about the actual vaporizer for a minute.

In particular, its potential to use concentrates in stock configuration, with the standard mouthpiece that will ship with it.

As many of us are aware, there has been some contempation regarding an oils front end, however at this time, the notion of yet another stage developmental, manufacturing, and shipping processes, albeit only for one part, will probably drag on long after initial shipment is completed. (despite the fact that the oils MP has been known about ever since the IG campaign)


With this in mind, let us open the discussion to practical ways to use oils/concentrates/wax etc. in the GrassHopper in its current configuration.


There is a specially designed piece by Storz & Bickel to allow their herbal vapes, namely the Crafty/Mightly/Plenty (maybe even volcano?), to vaporize non solid materials.

These are called the Liquid Pads - basically a mesh, acting as a wick/substrate to accomodate the full-melt quality of nonherbal compounds.


Does anyone wth a GrassHopper, I'm looking at you @BuzzDanklin, and anyone else to be so lucky as having the good fortune of beta testing, have experience using concentrates with this most coveted pen?

How have you gone about doing so? Merely using cotton as the substrate or going as far as devising your own solutions to solve this challenge?


Now for the most poignant question, will the S&B liqui-pads work directly with the grasshoppers heating chamber, and is it possible to modify them so that they do fit?


These are all things I'm sure we would all like the answers to, and hope that Buzz, and other initial GHV owners see this post and reply to these queries.


EDIT: Here are the Pads in question -
http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_us/en/shop/all-items/plenty-liquid-pad-set.html

Yes, I have experimented with concentrates when I had the pre-production Grasshopper. I made my own screen "cups" that fit at the very end of the heating chamber nearest the mouthpiece, and I was successful at vaping "traditional" solvent-less concentrates. I did not even have to turn the temp all the way up and I was getting great vapor! It kind of got a little messy but I think it has great potential for concentrates, its just a matter of containing them because the Grasshopper puts out enough heat in my brief experience. These screen cups were just an experiment but it worked for me and I bet if you added some of those Crafty/Mighty mesh pads to the screen cup, then you could definitely vape wax etc...

 

[Krazzykid]

I also use cotton but its temperature limited. Its the same airpath as all ecigs and RDAs so I'm not too sure of the concerns but it definitely had me skeptical initially too.

If materials like cotton could withstand concentrate temps then I would keep using them.

Cotton can auto-ignite at 491F, well above the max temp of the GH.

Rayon(pure cellulose), which is my preference, can auto-ignite at 788F.

 

[paytonpenn]

Cotton can auto-ignite at 491F, well above the max temp of the GH.

Rayon(pure cellulose), which is my preference, can auto-ignite at 788F.

Yeah I've burned many cotton wads. I'll buy some rayon please join my conversation in the Ask FC section, I'd like to know more about your usage with Rayon. Will definitely be buying some to try.

 

[grokit]

There's also de-gummed hemp fiber, a favorite of mine

 

[CarolKing]

Now Rayon is make from wood fiber. I just looked that up. I didn't know that. Thanks for sparking my curiosity. FC is very educational in more ways than one.

 

[paytonpenn]

There's also de-gummed hemp fiber, a favorite of mine

How high of temps does that last, my cotton normally catches on fire before I'm done.

 

[grokit]

How high of temps does that last, my cotton normally catches on fire before I'm done.

I don't know the specifics but I've read that hemp's combustion temp is much higher than cotton.

 

[IAmKrazy2]

How high of temps does that last, my cotton normally catches on fire before I'm done.

If you buy a vape from @stickstones he will throw in some degummed hemp fiber at your request, he also may be a good place to check if you want to buy a small amount, it usually comes in bulk.

 

[inuhuion]

If you buy a vape from @stickstones he will throw in some degummed hemp fiber at your request, he also may be a good place to check if you want to buy a small amount, it usually comes in bulk.

I like the idea that was mentioned a while back in this thread, sort of like a "bullet" of weed for the grasshopper, packaged in something like a teabag kind of material, possibly made out of hemp. it'd be so great for easy loading on the go. Could something like that be easily made?

 

[RUDE BOY]

I like the idea that was mentioned a while back in this thread, sort of like a "bullet" of weed for the grasshopper, packaged in something like a teabag kind of material, possibly made out of hemp. it'd be so great for easy loading on the go. Could something like that be easily made?

I believe Rolling papers would work fine for that.

 

[syrupy]

I believe Rolling papers would work fine for that.

With such a small diameter as the GH has, wouldn't this greatly increase drag?

 

[RUDE BOY]

I don't see why it would change a thing, roll a joint and cut it in pieces that are the length of the GH herb chamber and stick 'em in. should be about the same as packing the chamber with ground bud. I've done this with a few portables and they worked just fine. ... (DV,no2, tvape,pinnacle)

 

[Tek]

I'm at a pool party with my girlfriend and ten kids, all I can say is the gh would be pefect for this and way better than my dr dabber for quick discreet hits. I can not freaking wait for this thing but at the same time I am a preorder and not a backer so I know anything before July is a major stretch but damn I can't wait. I'll order multiple more when they start shipping, I know I'm not the only person that'll order more when they start shipping.

 

[Kalessin]

I've already been highly considering trying to scrape up the money to order a bronze ti to complement my green one...

 

[Mister G]

You guys are brave, I would never order a second before trying out the first IRL.

 

[Kalessin]

I'm definitely not going to get another before I get my current order. I'm just thinking to the future, if everything pans out like I hope.

 

[Tek]

The bronze is beautiful, I think I want one just to look at and not even use. Seriously though, I really can't wait for the gh to drop, game changer for real if it lives up to the claims.

 

[Kalessin]

I'm so anxious about it. Come on, just. Ship. One. Send the first Indie backer their grasshopper. I would feel so much better, just with that.

 

[paytonpenn]

I wonder how the Holiday backers who were gifted this feel about their gift.

 

[BuzzDanklin]

@DriftYo///M3 I have not tried my GH with concentrates. I was hoping the Firefly concentrate pad would fit, but it was too large.

 

[blazed7's]

need a grasshopper fix new video pics Or someone getting shipping date so I don't Or go

 

[nikcorda]

im so tempted to upgrade mine to titanium. i bought a used original pax over the weekend, to hold me over til my grasshopper ships. its doing the job for now, but ive noticed that the mouthpiece gets pretty warm when turn it up to high during long sessions. makes me want to play it safe with the grasshopper and go titanium.

 

[BuzzDanklin]

@blazed7's HERE is a video I took the other day while hiking

 

[DriftYo///M3]

@blazed7's HERE is a video I took the other day while hiking

Hah, some video. That's more of a gif with sound, or .webm


For real tho, why not entertain the people a bit, Buzz?

You hold a certain position of power, actualize it to at least some of its potential - do some experimental videos, maybe something like the initial review with your roommate?

Just post some creative vids plox, we're all dying for something to hold us over; to allow us to withstand the prolonged wait.