EveryDayAmnesiac
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I really think you pack too much in those poor FFs…
Yeah, that is definitely a full pack!
I really think you pack too much in those poor FFs…
I really think you pack too much in those poor FFs…
Yeah, that is definitely a full pack!
Do you know how much deeper the vaporblunt 2 screen is compared to the arizer? Even though they cost more, this may be the perfect screen to use for me, if it reaches the lid and makes a seal. Can anyone post a pic of the vaporblunt 2 screen sitting in the FF? Also in my opinion, I feel that there is no way that the added screen will damage this device.
So I'm curious... How much are you putting in to the FF bowl? before the space capsule method I was still using the same amount, but closer to .15 to .20
I went ahead and ordered the arizer screens. Thanks for your help! Did you happen to read my post....I don't have a vaporblunt 2, but i just priced the 2pack of screens and they are $30...based on using the arizer screens I already have, I cant see how it could fit better anyways... I'm good with these and they're alot cheaper (especially for the "pull and pop" ability when you're traveling on the go). I'm going to rotate about 10 of them (between using and cleaning)... at $15 a pop for those vaporblunt screens, that won't be an option...just imagine losing one.. OH!
Is there a way you could try this technique for me?I'm ordering the arizer screens now. Since I use just a pinch of finely ground herb at a time I'll either use a top screen or I might try to form a screened dome to go underneath the basket. In other words, the basket will sit on the dome which would then raise it up to the lid and make a seal. In theory I shouldn't have to remove the dome and cleaning the FF will be so easy! Maybe someone can try this for me since I don't currently have a basket screen? Since this is a convection vape I have no doubt that this will still create awesome vapor. I'm very excited about this!
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My M102 is on the way out, I've contemplated grabbing a new one but the Firefly has caught my eye. I see she pumps as far as production but how does the ff go as far as adapting to water?
I have found no downside to this method... space capsules (dome screen) have solved it all. I am also using .1 w/o a top screen now... I've also removed the bottom screen like rsqemt911 said, which now it does fit "flush" ..the vapor it produces is unmatched... throw a space capsule in your space coffin, and you wont go back...
I went ahead and ordered the arizer screens. Thanks for your help! Did you happen to read my post....
Is there a way you could try this technique for me?
I just remembered that I had a vapir NO2 screen lying around. I just used it as a top screen/dome and it worked beautifully! The vapir NO2 dome acts like a button, easy to put in an take out. Just take a look at it if you haven't seen one before. I will use the vapir NO2 screen pushed into the Arizer screen to form an egg space capsule once the Arizer screens get here. I can't wait!!
I took out the bottom screen but the Arizer basket still isn't flush with the edge of the bowl....sticks out a teeny bit. I may give this a shot later today and see how it works. For the record though, I'm still nervous.
I will definitely let everyone know if the vapir NO2 screen, combined with the arizer screen is a win. I'm sure I can trim the vapir NO2 screen to fit snugly in the arizer screen. I did try the vapir NO2 screen used as a basket with a stock FF screen on top and it worked beautifully. Nice small load for single usage.probably wont be enough room for both, but that might be the perfect screen to use as a basket (upside down) for smaller amounts... I think I might order some just to play with the idea...packe of 20 for $15...
I thought I was done....well I was...It's you guys,...u still got me tweeking lol
I appreciate you all
You could but those screens are slightly bigger in diameter, so you would have to cut them...I find a top screen is only required if you use .1 of fine grind.... .1 of med grind, or stuffing .2 fine gring, you can start off w/o top screen, but as you get closer to the end, then top screen is recommended...
or just put top screen on all the time and enjoy, its not harming anything to start with it on
bowl to the left is .2 fine grind, bowl on right is .1 med grind
your dud, wasnt b/c of your screen....have fun my sun!
I guess I wouldn't call it a "dud" because it was more of a super-powered overheating dynamo. The opposite of a dud, but just as sub-optimal. As for whether the screen caused it, it's still a mystery. Volteric duplicating the screen->combust thing twice makes me wonder. Anyway...
So I swallowed my fear and gave the basket method a shot, both with and without a top screen. (To be blunt: don't bother without using a top screen...because the best reason to try this is to mitigate debris mess, and you'll get plenty of that if you leave the basket uncovered.) It worked quite well, and, phew, no combustion. Not even running particularly hot...just a bit more than usual. In fact it did a more even cook. I used a finer grind than i would normally put in the FF...and filled it to the top and gave it a moderate tamp-down. Then laid a screen on it, one of the FF screens...then put the lid on. The basket/screen combo pretty much touches the inside of the window ring where the vapor paths start. (A couple times it all stuck to the lid when I popped it off. Pretty funny. Not sure if the magnets were the culprit.)
Interesting method...for me, though, the cons are more significant than the pros...
PROS:
- Little or no mess, but you still get a resin on the window that'll need iso.
- Keeps debris out of the screen/bowl lower edge, if that worries you.
- Allows you to use a finer grind.
- Cooks more evenly.
- Can get bigger hits more reliably thanks to the grind, if that's important to you.
- Can make traveling with the FF a lot cleaner and faster.
CONS:
For me, the taste is a deal-breaker. I would love the FF to be less messy, and I still think there's a top-screen-ish solution that will work for me someday, and I love the idea of the bowl staying clean...but the charm of the FF is that smooth, natural taste, obviously achieved through fewer encumbrances in the vapor path. Clean is great, but my FF flavor is what it's all about. The trade-off just isn't worth it to me.
- Adds significant restriction to the draw, thanks to pulling air through the Arizer basket (which sides are touching the sides of the bowl, giving you only the bottom of the basket for airflow...though this may be why the material cooks so evenly.)
- Seriously degraded taste, to me. Like, seriously. Material I was using has a signature taste that is HEAVEN in the FF or other vapes, but was all but a ghost with the basket. It added a metallic taste, which surprised me. (Never notice it on the VTE.)
- You can't see the glow, for the most part. This is 50/50 aesthetic and utility...it helps to see when the glow kicks in. Not easy with the basket/screen combo.
- Though it seemed to run hotter, I still couldn't extract the last good hit from the session. But it did extract one good hit more than usual for the FF. (So a PUSH for that one!)
Cool idea though, and YMMV and all that. Some folks may not have the same taste experience I did.
That is a great question. It seems to me that this method is still keeping the FF a convection vape. I say this because you are still just passing heated air through the screen and the herb.I'm wondering if the basket approach is basically turning this unit into a conduction style vape? I mean isn't that essentially what a conduction vape basically does namely heats up a chamber thus cooking/baking the herb?
I'm wondering if the basket approach is basically turning this unit into a conduction style vape? I mean isn't that essentially what a conduction vape basically does namely heats up a chamber thus cooking/baking the herb?
That is a great question. It seems to me that this method is still keeping the FF a convection vape. I say this because you are still just passing heated air through the screen and the herb.