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Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer
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WildChild
Seeking My Shangri-La
Man, I hear you. Been waiting and waiting for mine too.
dolphinman
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Does anyone have the Light Grey? can u post a pic of it in natural light/inside room light please?
The fact that you have a mother-in-law willing to buy and ship you a vape, is a gift in and of itself.
Foghorne
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The fact that you have a mother-in-lawThe fact that you have a mother-in-law willing to buy and ship you a vape, is a gift in and of itself.
The fact that you have a mother-in-lawwilling to buy and ship you a vape, using your vape, is a gift in and of itself.
I always crack up when my MIL starts bashing those "crazy potheads" meanwhile, I just took a fat rip off my dabbler in her bathroom.
vorrange
Vapor.wise
You're mistaking the amount of extraction (% of cannabinoids extracted at once) you get in one hit when it is grinded, with the different flavours you get in an ungrinded nugg.
The fact is, there are a lot of terpenes in the trichomes and those trichomes are lost when you grind your nug.
If you put a whole nug but there is a lot of space in the bowl where the air can go around it, the hot air will not successfully vaporize it. The air needs to go THROUGH it.
Of course the FF could be less efficient vaporizing a whole nug but the only thing that explains it is how the air goes through the bowl.
In the end, convection is a much better extraction process and since it is the hot air that vaporizes VS the contact heat in a conduction design, the surface exposed is less important.
vorrange
Vapor.wise
Steama, ultra-negligible is something subjected to opinion. I notice a clear difference in the subtleties of the flavours and i have come to prefer my vaping ungrinded. Plus, the sessions last longer, it is one less thing to carry around, the flavour is better and i get higher.
When you grind, the first hit has more flavour (more intense because you extract more at once) but it is more bland, they are more equal between strains and there is a "green taste" to it. When you don't grind it is more floral.
It indeed is simple physics that a more exposed area releases more vapour at once, i never said the contrary to that. I agree.
The fact is the restriction has nothing to do with this. In fact a slower draw is better to fully extract and is more efficient since it does not lower temperature as much during the hit.
I always tend to use a slower draw.
And i said several times already that the point is not vapor production, it is maximizing flavour and terpene extraction.
Plus, after the first few hits you break the nug and you get the big hits anyway but with less flavour.
I'm not arguing what is better or what you should do, i never tried to do that.
Also, i never said take the bud out to grind Steama... i said i use a toothpick to poke and break it into smaller nugs. I don't use my fingers either.
When you grind, the first hit has more flavour (more intense because you extract more at once) but it is more bland, they are more equal between strains and there is a "green taste" to it. When you don't grind it is more floral.
It indeed is simple physics that a more exposed area releases more vapour at once, i never said the contrary to that. I agree.
The fact is the restriction has nothing to do with this. In fact a slower draw is better to fully extract and is more efficient since it does not lower temperature as much during the hit.
I always tend to use a slower draw.
And i said several times already that the point is not vapor production, it is maximizing flavour and terpene extraction.
Plus, after the first few hits you break the nug and you get the big hits anyway but with less flavour.
I'm not arguing what is better or what you should do, i never tried to do that.
Also, i never said take the bud out to grind Steama... i said i use a toothpick to poke and break it into smaller nugs. I don't use my fingers either.
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
I can't speak to the firefly, but my use of the vapolution 2 has led me to think that unground bud is more efficient due to it not having lost everything that is in the kief left behind in my grinder. the herbalaire was always touted as being very efficient and tasty and it didn't require grinding either.
I get that more surface area in ground bud leads to more even vaporization and thicker hits, but as to efficiency I can't make a definite statement one way or the other. When using the Ascent I would use ground bud in the bowl or a whole bud wrapped in cotton. It was my perception that the effects were similar when comparing weight/size of load.
I can tell you that the last four or five vapes I have tried have got me thinking we don't know shit about vaporization yet as a whole. There are so many variables that haven't been scientifically explored that we are left to describing subjectively. I think we all need to open our minds again to new possibilities and variables in the vaporization process.
I get that more surface area in ground bud leads to more even vaporization and thicker hits, but as to efficiency I can't make a definite statement one way or the other. When using the Ascent I would use ground bud in the bowl or a whole bud wrapped in cotton. It was my perception that the effects were similar when comparing weight/size of load.
I can tell you that the last four or five vapes I have tried have got me thinking we don't know shit about vaporization yet as a whole. There are so many variables that haven't been scientifically explored that we are left to describing subjectively. I think we all need to open our minds again to new possibilities and variables in the vaporization process.
vorrange
Vapor.wise
Definitely! Although the science is there in many ways, you can find lots of scientific studies who explore cannabinoids and their boiling temps, what happens when they oxidate or what chain reactions can occur.
The problem is few vaporizer manufacturers have created the bridge between the chemistry of the plant and the physics of vaporizing with the engineering to find the best possible ways to build their vaporizers.
Most who are in the business are previous patients like Vitolo said in another thread, and the majority are just enthusiasts with more or less background in any of those areas.
Although i must say that i doesn't take an expert to build an excelent vape, some designs are so simple and work perfectly, sometimes all it takes is inteligence and creativity.
I think we understand a lot though, although we have so much more to figure out. The thing is cannabis itself is an amazingly complex plant and that alone changes many things in how it vaporizes and the percentage of cannabinoids has different assimilation rates wheter you use a conduction unit or a convection unit or a hybrid. If you use water, or not. If you start at the end of the temp spectrum or you go slowly because some cannabinoids transform themselves from the prolonged heat.
It is truly fascinating.
The problem is few vaporizer manufacturers have created the bridge between the chemistry of the plant and the physics of vaporizing with the engineering to find the best possible ways to build their vaporizers.
Most who are in the business are previous patients like Vitolo said in another thread, and the majority are just enthusiasts with more or less background in any of those areas.
Although i must say that i doesn't take an expert to build an excelent vape, some designs are so simple and work perfectly, sometimes all it takes is inteligence and creativity.
I think we understand a lot though, although we have so much more to figure out. The thing is cannabis itself is an amazingly complex plant and that alone changes many things in how it vaporizes and the percentage of cannabinoids has different assimilation rates wheter you use a conduction unit or a convection unit or a hybrid. If you use water, or not. If you start at the end of the temp spectrum or you go slowly because some cannabinoids transform themselves from the prolonged heat.
It is truly fascinating.
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hoyo77
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Yo can you post a pic of your aluminum loading deviceYeah, ground bud works best in the Firefly. Whole bud in the Fly is a waste of time and medicine imo. All you need to do is TRY IT and compare the results.
lwien
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Scissors and a shot glass works as well as far as keeping as much kief on your buds as possible versus a grinder. I'm thinkin' of going back to that for my LSV for a bit and see how it works out.
paul-is-dead
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I have silver and like it. Don't see how to post pics. It's got a nice sparkle in the paint.
poonman
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here you go
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/how-to-post-pictures.155/
I like vape porn , so give me that money shot ...hehe
paul-is-dead
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dolphinman
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umm I think something went wrong here...lol No Pic
poonman
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You have to copy and paste the bcc code , iirc .
But Sweeeeeeeet looking .
Nice angle shot .
hoyo77
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LOLOLOL....i like that lotus thing...
dolphinman
Member
Wow looks nice...can u get a shot from slightly further back? It's like right in my face...LOLOL
paul-is-dead
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dolphinman
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Is the silver more white? Is it Bright like the read or more matt silver? A little hard to tell from the angle
dirty_honest
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DARK GREY FTW 
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