The Firefly 2 vaporizer

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mitchgo61

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Has anyone experienced fully charging the FF 2 and then checking the charge by tapping the unit's button only to find that it blinks blue 4 times? I have left my unit on the cradle after it fully charges for about 30 minutes longer, and also took it off immediately after fully charging; same results. I noticed at full charge (solid blue light while on cradle) I could only get 4 blue blinks at manual check. I just assumed that it was a typo in their manual (5 blinks for full), and that 4 blinks was the norm. Looking through this forum though it seems you guys have stated you have been seeing 5 blinks.?

No worries. It is indeed a typo. You will only get four flashes no matter how full you try to charge the battery. The blue battery light will not flash five times.

I just received my black FF2, I've read pages and pages on using it but still having problems. Only tried a couple of bowls but not very good results. Seems to working fine by all accounts. I suspect it's that I'm not able to take more than 10 sec draws, asthm I'm afraid. I asked firefly about returns but only got tips in the reply, nothing new I haven't read here. Looks like they only take returns of unopened packages. I suspect I will take the hit and sell it and find something that doesn't require longer draws. Anyone having success with 10 sec and shorter draws? Thanks much!

Honestly, while the FF does better with longer draws, you should be able to get substantial hits sub-10 seconds.

1. Pack the bowl pretty densely.
2. Start your temp on HIGH.
3. Pre-heat for one full cycle.
4. Start hitting on the second cycle.

You should be able to get good hits in under 10 seconds with a little practice. Good luck.
 
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murf2010

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No worries. It is indeed a typo. You will only get four flashes no matter how full you try to charge the battery. The blue battery light will not flash five times.



Honestly, while the FF does better with longer draws, you should be able to get substantial hits sub-10 seconds.

1. Pack the bowl pretty densely.
2. Start your temp on HIGH.
3. Pre-heat for one full cycle.
4. Start hitting on the second cycle.

You should be able to get good hits in under 10 seconds with a little practice. Good luck.


Would agree here.
 
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Has anyone had to return a unit so far? Not sure how this is going to go with firefly. My unit is defective!
I returned mine got quick service. I dont see many failures in this thread. BTW i was the problem and this vape is a bit different then any other vape i have used. I get other vape retiring quality from this vape. Not cooking is my most loved feature.
 
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murf2010

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Fully charged it lasted me roughly 2-3 bowls. Roughly 3 hours on and off.

I returned mine got quick service. I dont see many failures in this thread. BTW i was the problem and this vape is a bit different then any other vape i have used. I get other vape retiring quality from this vape. Not cooking is my most loved feature.


Did you have to pay a restocking fee? Mine is surely defective, there is zero doubt.
 
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Bart3

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No worries. It is indeed a typo. You will only get four flashes no matter how full you try to charge the battery. The blue battery light will not flash five times.



Honestly, while the FF does better with longer draws, you should be able to get substantial hits sub-10 seconds.

1. Pack the bowl pretty densely.
2. Start your temp on HIGH.
3. Pre-heat for one full cycle.
4. Start hitting on the second cycle.

You should be able to get good hits in under 10 seconds with a little practice. Good luck.

Thanks for the tips!
 

TommyE

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Fully charged it lasted me roughly 2-3 bowls. Roughly 3 hours on and off.

Did you have to pay a restocking fee? Mine is surely defective, there is zero doubt.

I'm so confused. Is your ff bad or not? Seems like one post you are saying how bad it is, then saying how great it is. Just curious, because you are saying conflicting statements.
 

FreshAir

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Received mine today, ultimately after all the excitement I had what I did not expect happened. I was and am indeed disappointed so far.

The packaging is great, the firefly does look like a premium product from the very beginning and feels that way as well.

No chemical odor on mine however whatever taste I have gotten from the little amounts of vapor I did manage to get is worse than combusting through the bong, not saying it is terrible just not as flavorful as expected. Taste was one of the biggest selling factors for me. I have tried several strains of top shelf medical.
have tried finer grinding,coarser, hand breaking it down but I barely get any vapor. Taste was one of the biggest selling factors for me. I have tried several strains of top shelf medical.

Battery life also seemed unimpressive but that is something that I could live with once they start selling external ff2 chargers as long as I manage to get the vapor production sorted out. I have tried drawing in different ways.

One last thing which is what worries me the most. the reason I have decided to switch to vaping is the toll bongs have taken on my lungs. but I can clear several grams a day .2-.4 hits through the bong and not have an issue but from the very first inhalation of vapor I developed a wheeze

All in all, I want to love this unit and be able to say fuckcombustion
 
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toked23

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Anyone using a grinder for their material with the ff2? Seems my hand tearing is fairly inconsistent and leaves some little sense nugs... Any grinder suggestions that would work consistently?
 

hi_there

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able to take more than 10 sec draws, asthm I'm afraid.

I think I am doing 8-12 second draws and it is working fine. First draw little vapor, second draw wispy and by third I am getting light clouds.

Just wanted to mention that the online guide says hold button and inhale 5-10 seconds. So it should do the job well within your range of tolerance. Maybe time your inhale, it might seem like 10 seconds but it could be much shorter? Are you feeling the resistance on the inhale?
 
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murf2010

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I'm so confused. Is your ff bad or not? Seems like one post you are saying how bad it is, then saying how great it is. Just curious, because you are saying conflicting statements.


Only the left button works. Sometimes.
 
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Bart3

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I think I am doing 8-12 second draws and it is working fine. First draw little vapor, second draw wispy and by third I am getting light clouds.

Just wanted to mention that the online guide says hold button and inhale 5-10 seconds. So it should do the job well within your range of tolerance. Maybe time your inhale, it might seem like 10 seconds but it could be much shorter? Are you feeling the resistance on the inhale?
I did read the guide said 5 - 10 sec for inhale, then it said 15 below. I have timed my inhale to be at least 10 sec but that's a bit difficult for me. I do get a little vapor, doesn't really increase per round though. I'm going to try and cook it first as recommended when back from vacation. Appreciate the tad ice.
 
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DarkSm0ke

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Anyone using a grinder for their material with the ff2? Seems my hand tearing is fairly inconsistent and leaves some little sense nugs... Any grinder suggestions that would work consistently?

@toked23 when I "hand tear" more likely than not I get those "little nugs" too, but for me this consistency works fine. I have read that Santa Cruz coarse shredder works good if you just grind it for one small turn. I have not verified this personally. They run about $79 for larger ones. Spending that much for a grinder kind of turns me off since hand tearing is working so far for me. I would be curious if someone on this forum would use the Santa Cruz coarse shredder for their FF 2 and report back their results. So far I have only seen a couple of vape reviews online where the reviewer states that the Santa Cruz Shredder is preferred for the FF 2.

One thing I have noticed is that if I tear my buds up but leave it out for a few hours to dry my bowl burns more consistently, and I see more visible vapor.
 
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huxley

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So I want to change and clarify some of my comments earlier regarding the smell as I did some further testing.

Essentially, there is no smell when the unit is cold. Technically, it is not no smell, but it is minor enough that I would have no complaints. Neither from the rear of the unit, nor when breathing in through the intake, would I find the smell/taste that offensive. It is almost not there.

The problem comes when I turn the unit on, with no herb in the chamber-- that part is important-- and with its default settings of "Medium-High", then with a long slow 5-15 second breath through the intake, there is, to me, a terrible chemical taste.

I've been running it this way off and on for a couple days, hoping the smell would dissipate, but the smell/taste remains constant.

The taste is so bad, that I am hesitant to take full long draws (again, with no herb in the chamber), because I don't like the whatever it is I am getting in my lungs.

If I could figure out a simple to hook up a vacuum to it, other than my lungs, and let it draw for a while on medium-high, I wouldn't mind doing that test.

I do not want to risk my lungs repeatedly breathing in this chemical vapor in the hopes that it will eventually dissipate, or that I may no longer taste it once loaded with herbs. I suspect if I were to put herb in it, it would likely cover up the smell.

A question for the community of FF2 owners who have been using them for a while, especially if your FF2 previously had a taste:

Would you please take your used FF2, thoroughly clean it with ISO, then draw through it with NO herbs in the chamber on Med-High or on Concentrate mode for 5-30 seconds, and tell me if you smell/taste anything?

I notice the smell/taste is more pronounced the hotter the unit is. So, on Concentrate mode, the taste/smell is amplified.

Also, in correction to my original post, any smells from the rear of the unit are ONLY there once the unit is sufficiently hot in the rear, not when cold. My original testing was mis-sequenced. I had gotten the unit super hot at first, which then made me smell the chemical smells for the next half hour or so until the unit had completely cooled.


Many of us had weird smells at first, dissipated after a bit of use. Haven't seen any reports of it lasting.

Thank you. I would appreciate if you could do the test above.

I have tried a dozen new vapes over the past few years....all has some level of factory smell..

Thanks, can you please tell me specifically other vapes had the smell? Can you please try a toke on the FF2 with no herb in the chamber (and ISO cleaned) on MedHigh or especially Concentrate mode and tell me if the factory smell is still there?
 
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mitchgo61

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No chemical odor on mine however whatever taste I have gotten from the little amounts of vapor I did manage to get is worse than combusting through the bong, not saying it is terrible just not as flavorful as expected. Taste was one of the biggest selling factors for me. I have tried several strains of top shelf medical.
have tried finer grinding,coarser, hand breaking it down but I barely get any vapor. Taste was one of the biggest selling factors for me. I have tried several strains of top shelf medical.

So am I reading you right...you barely get any vapor, but when you do, it tastes worse than a bong hit???? Is that right? (I'm having trouble reconciling "barely any vapor" with "bong hit".)

Battery life also seemed unimpressive but that is something that I could live with once they start selling external ff2 chargers as long as I manage to get the vapor production sorted out. I have tried drawing in different ways.

This is also mystifying me. You aren't getting vapor, but the batteries are running down? I think I need more data here to understand what's happening.

As for getting more vapor, try the usual tricks mentioned often here...pack the bowl tight, up the heat setting to HIGH, make sure the lid is debris-free and on correctly, make sure the mouthpiece is seated firmly. You should feel a somewhat-restricted draw. If not, either the lid or the mouthpiece isn't on right, and that explains your lack of vapor production. Try some of these tips and let us know if you get better vapor. As for flavor...I guess it's a personal thing. It shouldn't taste anything remotely like combustion though.

One last thing which is what worries me the most. the reason I have decided to switch to vaping is the toll bongs have taken on my lungs. but I can clear several grams a day .2-.4 hits through the bong and not have an issue but from the very first inhalation of vapor I developed a wheeze

I definitely wouldn't worry about this...one session (of weak vapor) in the FF is not going to cause any damage to your lungs. Possibly just the dryness of the air caused you some issues, though FF has cooler air than most portables which in general mitigates the effect hot air can have on the lungs.

I notice the smell/taste is more pronounced the hotter the unit is. So, on Concentrate mode, the taste/smell is amplified.

Also, in correction to my original post, any smells from the rear of the unit are ONLY there once the unit is sufficiently hot in the rear, not when cold. My original testing was mis-sequenced. I had gotten the unit super hot at first, which then made me smell the chemical smells for the next half hour or so until the unit had completely cooled.
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I've used three FF2s with no hint of this smell, cold, hot, clean, not, whatever. ZERO evidence of this odor you have mentioned in multiple posts now.

Why don't you just call or write FF and see if they'll send you a replacement? You obviously have something up with your unit if it's causing you so much distress, odor, and bad taste. No one else is reporting anything like this (other than occasional lid odor which dissipates). I would submit your only course of resolution is talking to FF themselves about your issues. No amount of us trying to replicate your personal results is going to fix your problem, or, IME, even come close to reproducing it.
 
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snamuh

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@Bart3 if your taking short draws you might be able to use the concentrate mode (at your own risk) to boost the vapor..


I've yet to combust flower on concentrate mode.
 
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huxley

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Why don't you just call or write FF and see if they'll send you a replacement? You obviously have something up with your unit if it's causing you so much distress, odor, and bad taste. No one else is reporting anything like this (other than occasional lid odor which dissipates). I would submit your only course of resolution is talking to FF themselves about your issues. No amount of us trying to replicate your personal results is going to fix your problem, or, IME, even come close to reproducing it.

I get the strong feeling you are trying to squelch my voice from this forum. Yes, I am a just a new user user here, and obviously your post count is higher than mine, but I like to think I bring considerate, thoughtful and yes, useful posts to some.

Further, I strongly disagree with your assertion that it is not worthwhile to conduct experiments within the FC community. I am sure that there are others besides myself who who appreciate experimentation and testing.

If only FF2 cheerleaders are allowed in this community and thoughtful criticism is not allowed, then perhaps you are correct, that I do not belong here.

I did not waste time writing my review for any ulterior motives other than to provide the community with detailed information. If I was going to waste time/money on this experience I figured others should benefit.

There were several other users in this forum, a very tiny minority, who complained about the FF2 chemical taste. Despite that, I decided I had to see for myself because the potential upsides of the FF2 were too good to ignore.

Now, this community has yet another data point confirming this taste/smell.

It is the weekend. I certainly will be calling them when they re-open. I hope they will swap it out, but I suspect if I tell them there is a bad/taste when it is used without any herb, they will simply say that it is not designed to be used without herb. I also read they don't return open box items. I doubt many other FF2 users spent the weekend using their FF2 without any herb before using-- I highly suspect there is nothing wrong with FF2, other than my lower tolerance to chemical smells and using it not as intended (with no herb).

I repeat my call: I would appreciate any FF2 users, especially those who initially reported a chemical/plastic taste to see if that taste is still there with no herb in the bowl, on Med High or Concentrate and an ISO cleaned first.
 

PeteSeattle

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It seems as if redundancy of questions are getting to people.

Should there be a "best of" to help out new users? Will this accommodate those wanting to switch to vaping feel more comfortable? Most of us, at least I do, will scroll pass the back and forth of "making points" (maybe to the point of not being nice to each other).

We, the FC community, are better than most forums and we need to be that example.
 
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momofthegoons

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@huxley you are completely misreading mitchgo61's remark to you. He was only saying that he felt there was something wrong with your FF2 and that you should contact the manufacturer to get a replacement. He wasn't 'squelching your voice' in any way. Nor did he accuse you of having 'ulterior motives.'

Let me add that if you feel there is a problem with another member's post, you should hit the report button rather than addressing it yourself.
 
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mitchgo61

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I get the strong feeling you are trying to squelch my voice from this forum. Yes, I am a just a new user user here, and obviously your post count is higher than mine, but I like to think I bring considerate, thoughtful and yes, useful posts to some.

I merely suggested you might have a defective unit and direct contact with the manufacturer would be a faster path to resolution. You've posted the same complaint multiple times. I was suggesting calling FF. What's squelchy about that? Who said anything about post-count?

I've been a member in good standing in this community for seven years. I've never tried to stop someone from expressing themselves, and believe me, the rules and the mods would not stand for me even coming close to that sort of behavior.

There were several other users in this forum, a very tiny minority, who complained about the FF2 chemical taste.
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This is misleading. The other reports involved the lid. Yours apparently involves the unit itself. You still have the only (so far) report of chemical odor from the body.

I repeat my call: I would appreciate any FF2 users, especially those who initially reported a chemical/plastic taste to see if that taste is still there with no herb in the bowl, on Med High or Concentrate and an ISO cleaned first.

And I repeat my response: I've done this test on three different FF2s and found no smell whatsoever. You can make whatever you like of those three data points.
 
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I've loved my FF2 since receiving it about a month ago. About a week or so into having it...I discovered it was exceptional with concentrates. Since, I've 99% of the time solely used it for concentrates. I wouldn't say I overdo it...I put a small piece on the pad....warm it up...puff as if I was lighting a cigar (which I don't actually smoke :)). Once it's melted into the pad....I begin my draws. I have been getting crazy clouds...huge! About three days ago...I stopped getting clouds. Now, I keep my unit clean...but decided that maybe it needed a real once over. So I cleaned it VERY thoroughly...iso wipes, picks, soft cloth. It looked brand new. Try it again....still nothing...i mean like NO vapor. Tried it with herb...vapor...decent clouds. Try again with concentrate....little to no vapor. What am I doing wrong....all of a sudden? What could have happened to have drastically changed the performance? Any help is appreciated!
 
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mitchgo61

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At any rate...I would like to pose a question to those that have something useful to offer. I've loved my FF2 since receiving it about a month ago. About a week or so into having it...I discovered it was exceptional with concentrates. Since, I've 99% of the time solely used it for concentrates. I wouldn't say I overdo it...I put a small piece on the pad....warm it up...puff as if I was lighting a cigar (which I don't actually smoke (:). Once it's melted into the pad....I begin my draws. I have been getting crazy clouds...huge! About three days ago...I stopped getting clouds. Now, I keep my unit clean...but decided that maybe it needed a real once over. So I cleaned it VERY thoroughly...iso wipes, picks, soft cloth. It looked brand new. Try it again....still nothing...i mean like NO vapor. Tried it with herb...vapor...decent clouds. Try again with concentrate....little to no vapor. What am I doing wrong....all of a sudden? What could have happened to have drastically changed the performance? Any help is appreciated!

That is weird. You seeing the bowl glow? Feel like it's heating up?

If so....try re-seating the lid. Make sure it's tight. Make sure the mouthpiece is firmly in place. (You feel like the draw is still properly restricted?)
 
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@mitchgo61. Thanks for the tips. Draw restriction seems normal, glow is there, heat is there. I've tried flipping the pad, reseating lid, mouthpiece is snug.
I'm really at a loss. I haven't been putting too much on the pad...in my opinion. About the circumference of a pea and maybe a 16th of an inch thick. First thing I'm thinking when it happens is...CRAP...did the concentrate plug it up?! I don't think so but don't know what else could be going on?
 
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