Discontinued The Extreme Vaporizer Thread Part II

[max]

Just received my V-Tower Extreme in the mail today!!!! But guess what?!?! I don't get off probation until October 21!!! So now I have to just sit here and look at it and only dream about using it. Oh well, just gotta patiently wait, my time will come soon. I'll let you know how it turns out for me in 36 days.

Sure you can try it out. Look at all the legal herbs you can vaporize:

LOW TEMPERATURE: up to 150C (302F)
- All Vaporizers can handle low temperature herbs
Angelica: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Black Horehound: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F)
Blue Lotus: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F)
Calea: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F)
Chamomile: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F)
Clove: 125C to 150C (257F to 302F)
Corn Silk: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F)
Dandelion: 125C to 150C (257F to 302F)
Goldenrod: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Gotu Kola: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Horsetail: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Hyssop: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Lavender: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F)
Meadowsweet: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Motherwort: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Passionflower: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Peppermint: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Purslane: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Rue: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Sage: 125C to 150C (257F to 302F)
Saint Johns Wort: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Thyme: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Tobacco: 125C to 150C (257F to 302F)
Wormwood: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Yarrow: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)
Yerba Mate: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F)


MEDIUM TEMPERATURE: up to 170C (347F)
- All Vaporizers can handle medium temperature herbs
Anise: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F)
Caraway: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F)
Cat's Claw: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F)
Coffee: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F)
Comfrey: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F)
Damiana: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F)
Ephedra: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F) *use sparingly / increases heart rate*
Fennel: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F)
Feverfew: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F)
Hawthorn: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F)
Ginkgo: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F)
Guarana: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F)
Lion's Tail: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F)
Milk Thistle: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F)
Mugwort: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F)
Prickly Poppy: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F)
Red Poppy: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F)
Saw Palmetto: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F)
Sweet Flag: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F)


HIGH TEMPERATURE: up to 185C (365F)
- Recommended: Mystifire, Vapir One, Voodoo, Volcano, VripTech
Vapor Matic Deluxe, Vapor Warez Whip, Vapir Oxygen 2.0
Amanita Muscaria: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) *purity important*
Barberry: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Burdock: 150C to 185C (302F to 365F)
Cannabis (medical use only, see below): 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Couch Grass: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Evening Primrose: 150C to 185C (302F to 365F)
Fringe Tree: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Garlic: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Ginger 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Ginseng: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Hops: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Kava Kava: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) *use sparingly*
Kola Nut: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Kratom: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Licorice: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Maca Root: 150C to 185C (302F to 365F)
Marshmallow: 150C to 185C (302F to 365F)
Sida Cordifolia: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Sinichuichi (Mayan Sun Opener): 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Turmeric: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Valerian: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Wattle Gum Leaf: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Wild Yam: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)
Yohimbe: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F)

 

[CheckeredDemon]

Got my V-Tower via UPS today. Lotsa fun experimenting with different combinations of weed x temp x loadstyle. So far my favorite is some Deep Purple elbow packed at 190 C. Raise the roof.

 

[bluntfaced]

That sounds real nice.

I'm vaping some super bomb sour shit and some super bomb sweat fruity shit all mixed up in my elbow. It is quite nice.

Generally the more trichomes visible on the bud, the lower temp I start.

 

[shredsnowvapeherb]

nice call, I somehow prefer the bag so far, gonna get deep into some whips right away here.

 

[bluntfaced]

The whip grows on you. Try milking it a little, give it really low suction for a long time like no suction at all just enough to create a vacuum then PULL it all in. Do that like five times in one lung full and you will get keeeyed

 

[illadelph]

ive been noticing i get more flavor out of my kush with higher temps. must be due to the release of flavanoids as you go up. there is a whole spectrum of flavor out there.

 

[shredsnowvapeherb]

Nice tips. Initially I was sucking too slow, but I did get a couple hoots that made me cough instantly last night with a deep consistant pull about twice as fast as what I was previously doing.

Today I received a little package from vaporizer.ca to make up for sending it to the wrong side of the country(my parents house, ha). Grinder, toughbowl(not to sure how i feel about that thing) and an extra bag connection.

 

[bluntfaced]

I hated the tough bowl but now it's grown on me I use it every day and never get burnt

 

[IAmKrazy2]

I rarely use my tough bowl. Only when I packed the E up and travel. But it will likely be a long time before I do that again with the LB and PD.

Fired up the E yesterday for a few bong rips, and just a few elbows of some cronic to whip small bubbler with an old friend. Not conservative like the PD, but very delightful. The E was my everday for almost a year, nice to feel her again.

 

[shredsnowvapeherb]

Bought a roll of volcano bags and for now I resisted my urge to make a massive one. I did end up making a bigger balloon, Much better for 2 people. .4 filled this thing nicely elbow pack + some in the bowl @ 195.I I would post a pic but i don't have it hosted anywhere yet.

 

[illadelph]

i still wanna do a full 10ft bag.

 

[shredsnowvapeherb]

I'v done it with a volcano, worked pretty good

 

[Mark]

Just wondering here, as the glass gets very hot, would the tough bowl ever melt or anything? And also, would it act as some kind of insulator and actually make the bowl and weed hotter compared to the normal bowl?

 

[max]

It's Tuff Bowl, but it is tough due to the protective material around the bowl. No it won't melt, nor does it noticeably affect the temp. It's just for protection against breakage.

 

[bluntfaced]

The silicone on the bottom part of my tuff bowl got all crispy and last night I was fuckin with it and piece cracked off

 

[illadelph]

Just wondering here, as the glass gets very hot, would the tough bowl ever melt or anything? And also, would it act as some kind of insulator and actually make the bowl and weed hotter compared to the normal bowl?

does it make sense that they would make a bowl that comes into direct contact with the heater that would melt?

 

[bigchucka]

In less than a month, I have read 82 pages on this topic, the 10 pages of the part 1 thread, the Vaporpedia entry, about 30+ pages on grinders, all of TokinGLX's videos on vaporizers (cannot fuckin see how he can take hits like that!!!), the two part video on YouTube for the Extreme, Vaporizers 101 YouTube video from Patients Without Time (highly recommend for first time buyers of any vaporizer), and read the article on what to look for in a vaporizer from High Times. Lucky thing "Paul" referred me to your forum, I was originally buy a VooDoo Mystifire until I found out more about the Extreme. Ordered from Arizer, can definitely say they have great customer service there. Even gave me a 10% discount on spare parts. Wish they would have told me they sold heater covers, but I'll discuss that later. Also, you can't really tell before it comes in the mail and use it how handy the glass stirrer is.

Umm... how I use mine. I would have to say so far 70% whip/bowl (no fan), 15% whip/elbow (no fan), 10% vapor shooter (either bowl pack or elbow pack), and 5% bag.

My method for whip use... break her up (been using scissors), start at 200 while getting things ready, pack bowl, then place bowl and elbow piece and wait about 15-20 min and start hittin it. The thing that impresses me the most about the Extreme is those very first clean, green hits. A friend of mine was with me when I broke it in and said that is tasted like pure kif. He would know, he has a grinder with a screen. BTW, you shouldn't be thinkin dude... it just arrived ten minutes ago and I'm high as fuck! Read the manual first. You need to crank it up as high as your temperature goes and let it sit with the fan on for 30 minutes to burn off any possible "factory oils". Don't worry, it's just when it arrives new.

So, I'll start at 200. When it feels like I'm not getting anything, I go to 210, then 220, then 230, and finish anywhere from 230 to 240. I always stir my bowl and try to get a couple more hits before turning the temp up, but only if I'm at 220 or higher.

Other things I have learned from my experience... a nice glass of filtered ice water, sweet with vapor. So is soda or pop, but can leave a surupy taste in your mouth. Chilled wine is good too. However, shots of bourbon chased with whatever you use is not a good choice. I'm thinking about calling mine the Silver Assassin because I think it has tried to kill me four or five times. Like "cough so hard you fall out of a chair and break most of the ground glass on the heater cover" experiences. My friends and I think we're used to hitting bongs or hookahs in our youth and we're trying for the monster hit.

I'll wrap up my very first post with three questions I have not seen asked here. Every now and then when I stir my bowl, I empty out the elbow into the bowl, stir it up, then I'll use the "fat end" of the glass stirrer kinda like a mortar and pestle a little on my herb in the bowl. I always make sure not to press too hard, and sometimes I found if I don't stir afterwards the herb will slide up and down like a piston when I hit the whip. Any comments on this method?

Question 2: Like I said earlier, I usually just use the whip and no fan. Do you lose anything out of the mouthpiece when you're not using the whip? I'll hit mine and sit it down for a while (like 30 min or so) with the heat still on with the bowl and elbow whip on. Or is it necessary to plug it with your thumb/ Press N Seal/ whatever else you use.

Question 3: I heard of someone packing a bowl and placing a drop of mint oil on top to make your herbs have a extra minty taste. Have not tried it yet, but I have LorAnn mint oil (the kind used to make rock candy, etc..) Is that usuable in this method?

Thank you for reading my diatribe on the Extreme. Got it on the ninth and been vaping (mostly) ever since.

 

[stickstones]

welcome, chucka!

1 - I've seen the piston effect. When I use the whip I try to get the herb dancing in the bowl to get the best effect. I personally wouldn't press too hard with the stir tool, only because sometimes I get too fucked up to know I am pressing too hard.
2 - I usually just do a little puff after a whip pull to keep the vapor from coming out. This may be kind of stupid, but it makes my mind feel better knowing the syphon effect is not causing any vapor to keep coming out of the whip. In the end, this probably does nothing but make me feel better. I let my rig sit there after a whip hit for hours sometimes...you will not lose any vapor. But, if the herb is still tasty, you can dry it out leaving it on the unit when it is heated up...not good. If I am going to leave a packed bowl for a while and it is not finished, I will take it off the unit to keep it from drying out.
3 - I haven't done this. I would love to, but would want to make sure first that it is completely safe to inhale.

 

[DerekT]

I'm on page 64 so decided that it's now time to register and thank you all for the information. I used to be unhappy much of the time because my supply was not good enough to give me that physical release and I do not want a head high that makes me stupid. (Well, less intelligent than usual, that is) I want that physical body stone because it releases me from the aches which relieves the depression that . . . (bone.. connected to the . . .). It's not easy to find the very strong indica and now, with this Extreme I can get a far better result with it and decent indica than I used to with smoking and the far better and less available AA+. ( I still wish I could have the AAA all the time too, but that's not happening :-} )

The elbow method rocks me though. Mind clear and physically relaxed!!!

Edit: One other aspect is my morning's upon wake up. When I used to smoke I would wake up and often feel a bit hung over, and in about an hour I was wanting a toke. The first toke would hit me hard, too hard and I would cough harshly. Now when I wake up I feel great!!! I don't even feel the need for a taste for quite some hours, that's the greatest of all. I just use the bag connector with the elbow screen, not even the whip. The hits are very good at 190. The taste of the herb is phenomenal. With high end herb at 190, there's ten times the taste of herb than there is at 220.


Now to get back to page 64. LOL

 

[VaporBud]

To anyone that has use this + other forced air whips like Vaporfection, SV, NG, Evo etc.

How does the extreme compare to other forced air whip vape's ?
How's the air to vapor ratio in comparison ?

 

[pellefantus]

Hello!
As a newborn Arizer Extreme user I got some questions after testing it out.

1. I use to start at 210 and go up to 250 when smoking hash in small pieces, but when inhaling fast after stirring around some small parts of the hash/weed goes up to my lungs... How do I make the shit stick?

2. When smoking hash I didnt know when it was "done" so I just stirred and added more, after a while there was some very sticky residue in the bowl and it was so sticky I almost couldnt get it out. And when I swallowed it, I got high so not everything was vaporized.
How do you know when hash and weed are finished? Do you replace all the contents of the bowl at each refilling?

3.

 

[tito76]

Hey guys, I read a good part of this thread and finally decided to register. I got my Extreme a month ago and have been loving it, but I feel like Im doing something wrong.

Ive been smoking Flordia high grade (prob mid grade to you west coast guys) at around 190, and working my way up to about 210 in 5* incriments. Heres where I think Im going wrong, my bag is mostly clear when I fill it. I usually pack the bowl to the cermaic black line, and get about 8 bags out of it.

It sounds like most people here are getting one or two very thick dense bags. I guess I thought that the "vapor" would be mostly clear. The darker bags looked like "smoke" to me, so I turned it down at that point. It always got me high, but I definitely feel like there is room to imporve.

Should I be vaping at a higher temp and trying to achieve that thick cloudy bag?
If that dark cloud really is just vapor, that means it cant set off a smoke detector correct?

I apprecitate any advice. Thanks guys!




Ahh one last question, can anyone confrim that the joint on the whip/bag is 18.8?

 

[stickstones]

tito...how many different strains have you tried? I find each strain gives a slightly different density of vapor, and some hardly any visible at all (although this is rare).

 

[illadelph]

setting off smoke detectors depends on what kind of detector is in place and yes, the joint on the whip/bag is 18.8.

 

[tito76]

Ive tried 5 or 6 different strains, but only two real variations. 3 of them were pretty similar.

We cover the smoke detector anyway, Ill look into it more though.


On another note, last night we vaped at about 225, and it was by far the most wrecked Ive ever been off my Extreme. We got 4/5 dense couldy bags out of a full (to ceramic) bowl of some grade A piff. I can definitely see the advantage of hitting it through an ice'd bong now with the higher temps.