The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

[kellya86]

@joker if you can manage to fit the whip in the end of the all glass mini whip, that's fine, silicone and pvc tubing for vaping will be OK for vaping temps...

Go for it with the method I described and let me know how it goes, you should get good results... that glass part has better airflow that the restrictive stock elbow...

 

[joker]

Did like you described. I didn't see any vapor in the chamber, when taking draws I blew out a tiny bit of vapor 3 times, after that nothing. After restirring the elbow and upping the temp I didn't get any vapor at all and half the weed fell out the elbow into the chamber as it's pretty dry after the first go

I'll give it some time tonight and tomorrow before I can judge how high I got but so far it seems to be working pretty well even though I got no vapor (lucky I got a vape now to blow clouds and compensate )

I feel a lot more stoned with 0,1 gram than yesterday with 0,5 (again, it feels a bit like edibles or isolator, strong creeping up high after 5-10 minutes which gets more intense every second) but I had some drinks a while ago which probably influence the high.

However I smoked often enough with/without alcohol to tell I definitely got way more stoned than with the balloon, while writing this it got more and more intense, amazing stuff, hopefully I can finally stop smoking those *** cigarettes

Thanks for all your help.

 

[kellya86]

Something is not right, you should be seeing some visible vapour, and be almost choking...

After a hit from my eq, I feel like all the air has been sucked from the room as I struggle to breath due to the intense irritation from the sheer volume of extracted cannabinoids...

 

[joker]

The first 3 hits I did get a throat irritation which made me cough a bit but I feel at least equally high than after 0,5 gram yesterday (and that was better weed too)

I'd definitely prefer to have vapor as it feels like I'm just not inhaling anything now but anything better than smoking cigarettes and man I feel GOOD with only 0,1 gram !!

Do you know how much gram you put in the elbow?

 

[YungLeaner]

The first 3 hits I did get a throat irritation which made me cough a bit but I feel at least equally high than after 0,5 gram yesterday (and that was better weed too)

I'd definitely prefer to have vapor as it feels like I'm just not inhaling anything now but anything better than smoking cigarettes and man I feel GOOD with only 0,1 gram !!

Do you know how much gram you put in the elbow?

I usually pack a decent amount in there, probably .25-.3, and then i get it warming up at 420 for about 15-20 minutes, then i rip with the fan on and get massive vapor clouds.

 

[joker]

That's too much for me at once I usually do 30 mins with my first joint (they are all 0,15-0.2 gram) and 1-2 hours with every other one.

I felt the high fading pretty fast but it was only 0.1 gram so I'm happy. I did another 0.1 gram elbow pack and again barely any vapor but well, it works.

I'm sure it'll work even better with the DDave mod and once I quit cigs for a while.

 

[YungLeaner]

That's too much for me at once I usually do 30 mins with my first joint (they are all 0,15-0.2 gram) and 1-2 hours with every other one.

I felt the high fading pretty fast but it was only 0.1 gram so I'm happy. I did another 0.1 gram elbow pack and again barely any vapor but well, it works.

I'm sure it'll work even better with the DDave mod and once I quit cigs for a while.

The DDave opens airflow by a lot. Down the line a cheap and effective upgrade is a water pipe that will increase cloud usage.

 

[joker]

Open airflow means I can take harder draws? I don't really like long soft draws. I'll look into the waterpipe after I got my mod

 

[YungLeaner]

Open airflow means I can take harder draws? I don't really like long soft draws. I'll look into the waterpipe after I got my mod

Yeah, it'll make it so that you can rip as hard as you want. If you get to southern cal. let me know so that i can prove what a vape through a bong can do. And after you get the mod PM me before buying a waterpipe, I might be able to hook you up for really cheap from my collection or at least send you some good links

 

[joker]

Oh that sounds so nice, can't wait!

I live in the Netherlands unfortunately so I'll probably never be close. If by waterpipe you mean an actual waterpipe and not a bong, I own a waterpipe store myself so that's not an issue. Do you recommend any particular model? I basically have all Khalil Mamoons, Faridas and El Nefes shishas. Also some random stuff. Thanks for the offer though!

 

[YungLeaner]

Oh that sounds so nice, can't wait!

I live in the Netherlands unfortunately so I'll probably never be close. If by waterpipe you mean an actual waterpipe and not a bong, I own a waterpipe store myself so that's not an issue. Do you recommend any particular model? I basically have all Khalil Mamoons, Faridas and El Nefes shishas. Also some random stuff. Thanks for the offer though!

Ah, I forget sometimes just how universal FuckCombustion can be! That's awesome. I don't know if traditional hookahs will work very well. On DHgate.com you can buy a bubbler/bong to connect your vape into for under $20 usd

 

[joker]

I see. Will it work similar like a normal bong? I tried that a few times in the past but didn't like it at all, was so harsh on the throat and the flavor was pretty nasty, it made me cough for minutes. I don't know a single person who likes a bong and my smoke circle got pretty big over the years. I always thought it's cause we always have strong weed and other countries often don't.

 

[kellya86]

@joker lighting plays a part too, led light shows up vapour better, as does natural light, but I find some yellow lights turn my vapour invisible....

Is it possible that your on Fahrenheit when I'm advising centigrade reletive numbers???
So your temps so low your not getting visible vapour????

 

[joker]

No I'm on celcius. I did a few more elbow packs and again 3 hits of moderate vapor then nothing, raising temp or stirring doesnt help with producing more vapor, I do it though cause I'm sure it gets me more stoned even though there isn't any vapor. It's still light out here and I don't use any other lights.

I did one normal chamber fill and got 4-5 hits of vapor and then nothing. The hits of vapor are very tiny but I'm not sure what to expect. They are like 1/4th of a cigarette puff I guess?

 

[kellya86]

Maybe your just expecting too much, vapour is not smoke...

I'm stumped, I don't know what to suggest, other than keep at it an don't smoke, and maybe you will get the hang of it and be able to draw clouds soon, maybe your draw technique is where the issue is....

 

[joker]

I doubt it's my technique, I practised tons of times already and I don't see vapor in the chimney like you said. Perhaps it's just the weed. I get stoned so I'm fine I get a good throat irritation from the first 5 draws and during the first 2-3 draws I have to sneeze for some reason. I get max 5 draws where I get some vapor

I have seen videos/photos of vapor from Extreme Q with only 0,2 gram and I get nothing even close to that. I'll go get some other weed and try again.

I just packed it with 0,2 gram kief and let it in the elbow for 10 min, I didn't see any vapor in the chamber. My first draw was no vapor but a very intense weed flavor, 2nd/3rd I got some vapor, for the 4th and 5th hit I turned the fan on 1 and got decent vapor but the 2nd hit was so strong I ended up shedding tears from the coughing. My throat still hurts really bad, I guess I won't use the fan again with the whip lol My lungs also disagree with this strength.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Ah, I forget sometimes just how universal FuckCombustion can be! That's awesome. I don't know if traditional hookahs will work very well. On DHgate.com you can buy a bubbler/bong to connect your vape into for under $20 usd

If you are going to go through DHgate check out the cheap High quality bubbler thread at FC. Look at the D020-D. Highly rec'd but there are variations on that design, I'm sure. I'm thinking matrix perc myself. happy hunting!

I doubt it's my technique, I practised tons of times already and I don't see vapor in the chimney like you said. Perhaps it's just the weed. I get stoned so I'm fine I get a good throat irritation from the first 5 draws and during the first 2-3 draws I have to sneeze for some reason. I get max 5 draws where I get some vapor

I have seen videos/photos of vapor from Extreme Q with only 0,2 gram and I get nothing even close to that. I'll go get some other weed and try again.

I just packed it with 0,2 gram kief and let it in the elbow for 10 min, I didn't see any vapor in the chamber. My first draw was no vapor but a very intense weed flavor, 2nd/3rd I got some vapor, for the 4th and 5th hit I turned the fan on 1 and got decent vapor but the 2nd hit was so strong I ended up shedding tears from the coughing. My throat still hurts really bad, I guess I won't use the fan again with the whip lol My lungs also disagree with this strength.

Dryness of materials is a YMMV thing. Grind and allow more dry time? Follow @kellya86's steps but leave the unit off but plugged into the wall to allow the transformer some warm up time. I straw draw my packs then gently tamp with the blunt end of the EQ wand. Hopefully your EQ is O.K.and trial and error will pay off. Good luck! &
@PDwasmy1st Please clarify your question, Is it a socket type for a water tool? There are 14mm/18mm female/male adapters and options.

 

[kellya86]

I just packed it with 0,2 gram kief and let it in the elbow for 10 min

So your an 'all or nothing' kind of guy then, why load a pure kief basket, why not just top your herb basket with kief???
That would give you extra vapour and not ruin you for the throat...

So are you saying that when you load the basket and insert it, you don't get vapour condensing on the glass???

@CuckFumbustion has a very good point about leaving your transformer plugged in all the time as It regulates voltage but seems to need some power built up to work at its best....

 

[joker]

So your an 'all or nothing' kind of guy then, why load a pure kief basket, why not just top your herb basket with kief???
That would give you extra vapour and not ruin you for the throat...

So are you saying that when you load the basket and insert it, you don't get vapour condensing on the glass???

@CuckFumbustion has a very good point about leaving your transformer plugged in all the time as It regulates voltage but seems to need some power built up to work at its best....

I just had some kief left and thought I'd try it. But yes I don't see vapor condensing on the glass. I can see the tiniest amount that disappears when I inhale but it's practically impossible to see. I got some different weed too and same story.

So far the best result was putting 0.1 in the chamber and just taking medium-hard long draws so the weed went from the chimney into the elbow, sort of the same as elbow packing I guess but more airy.

 

[kellya86]

If I was to load a basket of kief, or just flowers for that matter, within 15 secs my wand will be cloudy and hard to see through as vapour is released and condenses on the cooler glass walls...

Your from the Netherlands so I doubt it's poor quality cannabis your obtaining...

Do you have an led flash light on your phone???

Next time you vape, shine your light through the glass as you inhale, can you see vapour streaming up the glass whip???

When you exhale, do so slowly....
If you blow out fast, you won't see vapour...

 

[joker]

Yeah I know for sure the weed is good. That's weird, I definitely don't get that effect and never have. I've never seen vapor in the wand or chimney. I even let a basket in 10+ min yesterday and still nothing. I tried using old & new screens too. Maybe it's just the type of weed? I did get a different strain and again the same story but.. who knows. I'll get another one today I guess and try. Is yours wet or dry? Mine is pretty dry.

I do get some vapor like I said but it's really minimal and only for a few hits. I already used different lightning last night. I just loaded a basket again and it's there now for 2 mins and there is literally 0 vapor in the chimney or anywhere. I do smell the weed a bit.

 

[kellya86]

I store my cannabis at 62% humidity...
I find it vapes well like this too...

Do you have some boveda packs, try to hydrate your cannabis a bit and try again...

 

[joker]

I thought dry would be better. I have no idea what my % humidity is. I'll buy some wetter stuff today and see then. Perhaps what you see is just water vapor? I'm taking draws now and it goes like this.. the first hit almost no vapor but good flavor, 2nd I get some vapor on the exhale (really tiny amount) but don't see it moving through the vape itself or anything (it's too little for that) and then after drawing I can see the tiniest amount come through the mouth piece. Same goes for a few more hits, then the vapor is gone. If I stir the elbow pack after a few hits the weed is crisp dry. Is that the same for you?

Can you perhaps show me a picture of your chimney filled with vapor? Cause if you're talking about hard to see through I'm 100% sure I don't have anything that comes even close to that.. I can't see ANY vapor at all in the chimney no matter what, just sometimes when I take a draw I see a tiny bit disappearing, so little it was impossible to see normally but this is only for 1 or 2 draws.

 

[Detonator]

you want it dry.. I think your not getting vapor cause you weed is too wet @joker grond it up put it on a piece of notebook paper for 30-40 min to dry it out even more then vape it... I bet you'll see more vapor...

adding water is just adding water / steam... you dont want that

 

[joker]

No my weed is pretty dry. I thought maybe kellya uses wet weed and that's why there's much vapor. I got pretty baked from 0,1 gram though while I barely got any vapor so it works fine I guess.