The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

[kellya86]

I disagree strongly with that as if you really crank up the EQ to 220c+ you can extract .1-.15 in a single rip easily. This is in a suitably preheated DDave modified unit (that you already have). If you want to hang around the 200c mark I doubt the EQ will one quit hit.

I strongly agree with your strong disagreement...
I use my eq as a 1 hitter, 90% of the time.
I do this without water, at 200...the eq will 1 hit at 200. I do it everyday.


I load a third of an 18mm basket in my preheated ddave wand and get full extraction...

 

[CuckFumbustion]

I disagree strongly with that as if you really crank up the EQ to 220c+ you can extract .1-.15 in a single rip easily. This is in a suitably preheated DDave modified unit (that you already have). If you want to hang around the 200c mark I doubt the EQ will one quit hit.

My new analogy is 220c is KO punch in the face. Where a rocksteady 200c is a Tyson rabbit punch on top of the head that makes you drop down 2 inches.
Yes indeed, it is nice to have options, once you have a refined system in place for any given situation.

Good luck trying to lower you tolerance @Stevenski , however you end up getting there. Trading off with different temps and/or different vapes might give you more wiggle room to switch things up and lower your tolerance when you are ready to bang the gong a little harder on the weekends. Just consider the lung filling experience that I aim for as an option to offset the face melt sessions. You might absorb the actives a lot differently now, since you have been a veteran vaper. Oh and you already know the art of switching between strains and extracts in your 'diet' as another offset. Hope any of this helps with the tolerance issues. Trying my own strategies to conserve on my mana pool before I decide to cast my next duel lightning bolt spell. And hopefully have enough Magica left over to conjure a storm atronach.

I have been vaping other herbs and plants with high terpene levels to increase and enhance the more complex plants, Like say... Cannabis. The entourage effect or something? Been posting in the ethnobotanical thread at FC. The EQ is excellent for vaping at lower temp herbs and teas. The EQ manual and literature was true! I should have vaped those flowers that came with it. Instead of scoffing it and the potpourri dish. Lesson learned. I will never mock a piece of glass.

 

[eq user]

Hi, just picked up am extrerme q vape and am loving it, quick question about vaping solids/hash(probably shit soapbar) from the uk, can I smoke it in the vape and what temperature would be a good start? I have smoked the soapbar through it before at about 210c and it seemed to do ok but thought I would just check.
Thanks.

 

[kellya86]

Hi there @eq user , I am from uk too (check out the fc 2016 uk meet thread)

Not sure about soapbar, not seen that for years, high quality hash is now available in the uk, as the herb takes control, hash has to fight back....

I get some very nice soft pure hashes...
They normally come in 3.5oz bars now...

Anyway I make a herb hash sandwich in the basket, then vape at 220, preferably through water for hash....

 

[CuckFumbustion]

I strongly agree with your strong disagreement...
I use my eq as a 1 hitter, 90% of the time.
I do this without water, at 200...the eq will 1 hit at 200. I do it everyday.


I load a third of an 18mm basket in my preheated ddave wand and get full extraction...

Under the right conditions it is achievable.

1 hit isn't my aim. Just brought it up as a comparison for all you Heatmeisters as a tidbit to up your game or sumpthin'.
Full extraction is more my game. I pack 2/3 full and draw on medium slow draw and get 3+ thick blue gas vapor with my special "Q" water piece. With my setup, I can keep drawing until the materials are dark mocha with almost no scorching or burnt popcorn taste. When it's is spent, I might have a caramel taste at the end. But it really is a well behaved setup. With a well calibrated 200C, there should be very little temp loss, which can help towards that 1 hit target some seek.

This is the 3rd time I went to the funky hippy head shop and the young guy who works there keeps handing me this SS 3 in 1 collapsible scraping tamp tool. No matter what glass I ask for, He hands me this thing. Because he seems to be so impressed with it. I play nice and thank him for showing it to me each time and continue my search. Well I caved and bought it while haggling for a few glass pieces for the EQ. The tool was meant for dabs, I guess but has an oval shaped tamper. The 3rd tool edge is rounded with a rough blade and grooved on one side. When I got home I found it perfect for scraping the side walls for the elbow screens! The squared off edge of the scraping/poker blade is great for squeegee-ing any smooth inside surface. Straight wands and an allright job with scraping the whip hose in a single pass. Now I know why he kept pushing it on me.

Just found out about soapbar hash seconds ago here from my part of the globe. It seems to be the QC of dirt weed. right? Maybe vaping it might help with avoiding inhaling some of it's known contaminants?

DD update- More glass, less silicone tubing, much shorter but a near full 18mm pathway from my EQ to my "Q" water piece. So there is even less restriction.
When I pull hard on my glass warhammer, the rattle sound echos through the hollow body of the EQ. Despite all that throat, It still maintains it's heat and abides.

 

[Justpassedu]

I had a nice big glob of some oily residue in my elbow . I have not cleaned it in so long and i am still leaving it dirty . I decided to take a piece of Japanese organic cotton that i had gotten with one of my e-cig vaporizers , they use this for rebuilding tanks. I wrapped a small piece around a Q-Tip and just swabbed a bit of that oil out of the elbow and than proceeded to take that cotton and pack it in the Eq's elbow and give it a try. The outcome was huge clouds that i felt would never end. I had to stop at about 10 puff's in as i was really ripped and the high was allot different than my usual sessions of straight green. Very powerful stuff and i did not mind the taste much , it was not so bad , def no way near the taste of resin smoking from my combustion days. I cant wait to try some out in my portables but feel i will save most of it for a rainy day.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Yea @Justpassedu , But you don't have to depend on the carbon buzz with reclaim. or dental cleaning skills. for that matter. Take that combustion!
I take my scraping tool and brush it onto my elbow screen or on the edge of a glass lip. No fuss no muss. Take a ride on the express bus.

Knew well in advance that my long 'stem' on the warhammer would be heavy with the light brown wet stuff. Does it have a special name besides poo?

Scraping it on my portable top screens too.

 

[Justpassedu]

Yea @Justpassedu , But you don't have to depend on the carbon buzz with reclaim. or dental cleaning skills. for that matter. Take that combustion!
I take my scraping tool and brush it onto my elbow screen or on the edge of a glass lip. No fuss no muss. Take a ride on the express bus.

Knew well in advance that my long 'stem' on the warhammer would be heavy with the light brown wet stuff. Does it have a special name besides poo?

Scraping it on my portable top screens too.

Exactly man , I think i am going to dump all my glass in a zip lock tonight with some alcohol , clean it up , let it evaporate and i should have a nice stash of reclaim. This stuff is powerful , plus i just got a new portable that comes with its own separate capsule with cotton in there made for this stuff that i'd like to give a try. Using the Japanese organic cotton was simple and left everything clean.

 

[Stevenski]

What I am going to try next time with my Iso is filtering it & then pouring it over a bunch of cotton balls & letting it evap for a few days. I think that will work fine as I tried it when I wiped out my Pyrex dish with a Iso dipped cotton ball after a QWISO run & boy did that fuck my world up for a few hours.

No joking at 240c in the EQ I was sitting with my head in my hands wondering what the fuck did I just do & feeling like I was 13 again.

 

[Nugg]

Lol those reclaim on cotton hits can really fuck you up. I have a cotton filter that I use with the solo that is dripping in golden reclaim. It's destined for the EQ at 240c with a 4 hour warm up. Just waiting for the right time.

I know Alan (who makes the heat islands) likes to dissolve his concentrates in iso then soak it up with cotton balls and dry them out. Seems like a good method. Very even coverage of the cotton can only help when it comes to vaping it.

 

[Stevenski]

The right time is maybe Saturday afternoon & watch Port vs D's in the Nab Cup afterwards? I am thinking about trying Alan's method on my next run or worst case doing a poor scrape & then wiping out the dish.

 

[Nugg]

I've got two fully booked weekends ahead of me gonna be a couple of weeks before I find time to sit down and really appreciate the kick in the face that it delivers.

You should see how filthy the filter in my ddave wand is getting that will be a fun one too.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

@Nugg I finally got settled in and played with some hemp wick in your honor today. But you already moved on to cotton. Anyway....

Took a small amount and dipped it in my dirty ISO jar and used my handy dandy SS tool (which is already paying for itself. BTW) and
rag-mopped my hard to clean wands.

My d-wand (a 6 slit wand I use as a wand.) got the most attention with the hemp wick. After rag-mop & ISO cleaning the d-wand, I rinsed it clean

Made a hemp o-ring and pressed it toward the top of the inside of the d-wand. Now I can just swish the hemp ring around on the inside of the wand and press it towards the bottom of the wand when I want a reclaim hit. Actually, I'll just pass that idea on. Use the O-ring in another setup. Lest that idea fester for a while.

The 6 slit holes in my d-wand, I came up with another solution. I wrapped the rope around the outside of the slitted end and used it as a buffer between that and the inside of the Cyclone that I am using as an adapter. So the hemp can catch any falling reclaim and make the inside volume smaller. I plan on keeping a screen in the cyclone as another reclaim point.

I have developed an all new appreciation for Hemp rope now. It is really flexible and tends to cling to itself. Already going multi-purpose with it. It is starting to give silicone adapters a run for it's money.

Did take a small piece of hemp wick and rag-mopped some reclaim and stuffed it in the 14mm @DDave wand and bowl.

Tried something else out. Poured the used ISO from my soak-screen jar and another dry jar and poured the thicker stuff into a glass 1 inch bowl. Then took the used hemp and soaked and stirred it to the point where some of the ISO is absorbed and also evaporated a little. Let the wick absorb the remainder. It did break up and restick to itself.

Know the exact glass connection piece I might want to go full GoG with the EQ. Been finding old electronics that come with remotes and aiming them at the EQ and mashing buttons. Trying to hit The IR repeater jackpot with my low tech remotes.

Found this old post for inspiration. also here is a link to Smart IR remote.

Okay, I have been meaning to write this for a while...

I think I may have the only voice controlled vaporizer in the world.

I am using a combination of software (DragonDictate + EventGhost) and hardware (Tira USB IR transmitter) to control my Extreme Q. Having a setup like this would be a novelty to most people I would think, but for others it could give them the independence to access medication that they (like me) would not otherwise be able to use on their own. So, whether you see this as being silly or life changing, I hope you enjoy the possibilities.

Here are the voice commands:

"Extreme Q, Power"
This command toggles the power. Additionally, if the power is being turned on it automatically turns the fan off, sets the temperature to 200 degrees, sets the two hour shut-off timer, and starts a five minute warm-up timer that alerts me when the vaporizer is ready for use.

"Extreme Q, Fan #"
This command accepts the numbers 0-3, and sets the fan speed accordingly.

"Extreme Q, Light"
This command toggles the light.

"Extreme Q, Audio"
This command toggles the beeping that occurs when the vaporizer receives the infrared signal.

"Extreme Q, Temperature"
This command cycles through three preset temperatures (100, 160, 200).

"Extreme Q, Temperature Up/Down"
This command adjust the current temperature by +/- five degrees.

"Extreme Q, Timer"
This command cycles through setting the timer for 2 hours, 4 hours, and off.

Notes:

1. All voice commands and timers utilize both an on screen display as well as a pleasant computerized female voice (NeoSpeech Julie) as positive feedback.
2. Global keyboard shortcuts have been made that can trigger each of the voice commands.
3. Each command can be triggered from a menu in the System Tray as well.

I do not know how much interest this will garner, but if anyone has questions I would love to answer them.

 

[Trypsy Summers]

I disagree strongly with that as if you really crank up the EQ to 220c+ you can extract .1-.15 in a single rip easily. This is in a suitably preheated DDave modified unit (that you already have). If you want to hang around the 200c mark I doubt the EQ will one quit hit.

@Stevenski;
I think you've misinterpreted what I stated, I said that "in imho that the EQ fell down in the one hit (quitter) department." For the sake of clarification; I meant that term, in reference to the fact that the Arizer EQ doesn't blow you away, in the same 'ONE TIME' manner that the EVO can do if needed.
That opinion is based upon my own empirical testing of both appliances and certainly with no disrespect due, or meant to the EQ!
Indeed, I had actually come on the the forum today, to actually sing it's praises, as I had just found out that when coupled to the Hydratube, with the fan cranked up to three, the EQ gave me the nicest surprise, it certainly very close to the standard. Indeed, ever since acquiring my EVO, I can only say it's had the affect of rising the EQ from the dead! Don't get me wrong, the EVO is what it is and it is kinda all that, but that doesn't alter the fact, that the Arizer EQ is a top-top vaporizer and certainly in the same league, i.e. The Big League!

PS; I can certainly vouch for the fact that you can vape 0.2g in the EQ using the elbow bowl, but now you given me the idea to try using the liqui-pad from the Volcano in the cyclone bowl of the EQ with 0.1g just to see if it has the same effect, i.e. keeping (such a small amount of) herb in place as per the Storz n Bickel vapes!

Just for the avoidance of doubt, I usually start at 200C and end up at 230C.

Peace

 

[scorpioeq]

Hey All, Some pretty disappointing vape temperature control from the EQ.

So far, the bowl temps are frequently higher than what is set on the unit. Temp set at 325F on the unit, and an F1 fan speed will have a bowl temp in the 360s. Pretty disappointing for anyone wanting to do any real buzzcrafting on the EQ.

http://screencast.com/t/fEOPcQTewhf

Note on this: If you let the unit sit at 325F for a while (with no fan) and then turn the fan on, the bowl temp skyrockets up to over 420F, before settling down to 400F :/

Doesn't look like the EQ is a good choice if you're looking for relatively accurate or predictable bowl temps.

 

[Creeper]

@scorpioeq contact Arizer and see if the unit is faulty, I have never actually tested the temps on my unit but I have heard from others that they can vary.

 

[kellya86]

This is a concern...

How many times did you test???

Was the sensor touching the mesh in the bowl???

Is this intentional on arizer's part to account for the herb being such a poor conductor of heat???

 

[Kalessin]

The only way I've ever tested mine is that my EQ on 410F extracts basically the same as my Pax at 410F

 

[scorpioeq]

@scorpioeq contact Arizer and see if the unit is faulty, I have never actually tested the temps on my unit but I have heard from others that they can vary.

Thanks. I plan to do that to ask them. I bought the unit through the classifieds. The person I bought it from use to worked at Arizer and got the unit as a gift from her boss. Perhaps this was a faulty unit given as gift? Anyway, I'll let you know what Arizer says.

This is a concern...

How many times did you test???

Was the sensor touching the mesh in the bowl???

Is this intentional on arizer's part to account for the herb being such a poor conductor of heat???

I've done at least a few hours of testing and tried to mimic actual vape conditions as much as possible as you can see in the photo (including creating an opening in the dome screen for the probe).

The sensor is actually touching the screen (which is the hottest part of the bowl), when not touching, the reading dips about 10-15F. Even if herb is a poor the conductor, it really shouldn't take long to heat up to full temp given how small ground herb is to begin with.

IDK, if its Arizers way of compensating for anything, but in any event, the actual bowl temp should be lower than what is on the LCD if anything, not higher.

 

[Justpassedu]

I've done at least a few hours of testing and tried to mimic actual vape conditions as much as possible as you can see in the photo (including creating an opening in the dome screen for the probe).

The sensor is actually touching the screen (which is the hottest part of the bowl), when not touching, the reading dips about 10-15F. Even if herb is a poor the conductor, it really shouldn't take long to heat up to full temp given how small ground herb is to begin with.

IDK, if its Arizers way of compensating for anything, but in any event, the actual bowl temp should be lower than what is on the LCD if anything, not higher.

I would try measuring without the fan on , i don't think Arizer is doing these tests with the fan on but what the heck do i know. It's very rare i use the fan anyway unless i am doing a bag , breath control produces some lung busters for me.

 

[scorpioeq]

I would try measuring without the fan on , i don't think Arizer is doing these tests with the fan on but what the heck do i know. It's very rare i use the fan anyway unless i am doing a bag , breath control produces some lung busters for me.

I've measured the temp with the fan off and also using the whip. When fully warmed, with no fan, and the unit set at 325, the actual bowl temp of the EQ is only about 235F. Its not until you inhale (using the whip) that the bowl temp goes up.. and when you're stop the temp drops right down again.

Arizer should be testing with the fan on as the bowl temp is a lot different with the fan on than without. I would believe it makes sense to test that way as using it with the fan on is the only way to use the device unless you're using the whip.

 

[Dr. Soxhlet]

The heater cover? How can you upgrade that?!

***Emergency EQ Heater Cover Repair***

 

[scorpioeq]

This is a concern...

How many times did you test???

Was the sensor touching the mesh in the bowl???

Is this intentional on arizer's part to account for the herb being such a poor conductor of heat???

Going 40 degrees above the set temp isn't even the worst case scenario, check out the edit on my original post :/

 

[kellya86]

This is worrying me a little...

When I wand pack at 200 I feel like im pretty close to that temp...

I know when I load the adapter that conduction takes over a little and temps do rise. So I account for this and drop to 185...

I suppose you have to use some common sense and use the temp display as a scale more than a specific setting.

This is getting into thermodynamics now...
Specifically heat transfer...

With prolonged exposure to a heat source, I suppose the conductive part can exceed the temperature of the source...

I think that fan is confusing your study...

It's not a real world test.

Also the sensor touching the mesh will confuse your study too, your sensor will conduct differently to organic matter...

And again it's accumulation of heat...

Anyone got any views on this...

@OF i know you don't frequent this thread. But you know your thermodynamics??? I think...

 

[OF]

This is getting into thermodynamics now...
Specifically heat transfer...

With prolonged exposure to a heat source, I suppose the conductive part can exceed the temperature of the source...

@OF i know you don't frequent this thread. But you know your thermodynamics??? I think...

Thanks for the compliment, I like to think I remember at least some of the rules. It was a long time ago, although I've had some opportunities over the years to fall back on it.

I recall enough to say with confidence the above statement is incorrect. But heat is a continuous scale from absolute zero (where all atomic motion stops) to past the surface of the sun. Time is a factor, 'dynamics' means motion and that means a time scale?

Things can only gain heat from hotter things ('heat flows from hot to cold') but they cannot be hotter than the source......no matter how long you wait. Think about it, if/when that happens (load hotter than the source) the load cools off because it is are now heating 'the (former) source'? They simply 'change sides'. It works both ways you know. The hottest thing in the system sets the maximum temperature any part of it can be. If you want to melt ice you have to be above freezing? And good thing, too, there's way too many books to be rewriting such basics at this late date.

And the smaller the difference between hot and cold, the slower (longer time) the transfer is.

Sorry I can't comment on the topic (the experiment) at hand. I've never even seen an Extreme in action, let alone studied it. I've got my hands more than full with a fraction of portables.......

But heat flows (only) from hotter to cooler. And toes go in first.

Regards to all.

OF