The ethnobotanical thread

[draakjeszijnlief]

Thank you so much for clarifying! I thought for a second that i completely misunderstood, this whole time haha. I have read the whole topic, very interesting. I just got confused for a minute


So i read that i should vape damiana at 191c/375. But i have found that i also like it at a bit lower temperature. I normally vape my pot at 184c/363. Now i lay the damiana on the bottom of the bowl and then the weed on top. I put my vaporizer at 186c/366. It works like a charm. Then before bed i pack a new bowl with damiana - weed - hop and i vape it at 184c/363. I really enjoy the hop. The leaves get quit brown and i know i am supposed to heat them at a lower temperature. But it works for me and it itsnt burned or anything. Plus it has 2 layers of other stuff under it. Just wanted to share my experiences so far.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Thank you so much for clarifying! I thought for a second that i completely misunderstood, this whole time haha. I have read the whole topic, very interesting. I just got confused for a minute


So i read that i should vape damiana at 191c/375. But i have found that i also like it at a bit lower temperature. I normally vape my pot at 184c/363. Now i lay the damiana on the bottom of the bowl and then the weed on top. I put my vaporizer at 186c/366. It works like a charm. Then before bed i pack a new bowl with damiana - weed - hop and i vape it at 184c/363. I really enjoy the hop. The leaves get quit brown and i know i am supposed to heat them at a lower temperature. But it works for me and it itsnt burned or anything. Plus it has 2 layers of other stuff under it. Just wanted to share my experiences so far.

thanks for sharing. I get part of what you are aiming for. And I have a similar approach with temps and mixing. It helps with your setup that you already vape your MJ at lower temps. So that brings it closer to the other plants temps range.

I have an EQ that I pretty much have a wand short bowl setup. But the wand is 18mm F/F adapter that seems to conduct heat well. Anyway, I also have a Cyclone bowl with dry herbs that I can place on top of that wand-adapter and can draw from it directly. All convection heat being drawn from the bottom short bowl setup. Without having to fiddle with the tempeture settings. Solid 200c for the EQ. The temp loss from the short bowl traveling to the cyclone is enough to bring things down to safe vapable levels.

Trying to read up on making essential oils. Thinking about making my own concentrated bug off for the summer. Lemongrass contains citronella. But there are other species of lemongrass.

 

[Budwiser]

Does anyone here vape dry herb with terpenes? Can I add black peppers (has the terpene Caryophyllene in it), d- Limonene, and alpha & beta Pinene to vape weed and how much before it becomes toxic? I use a Arizer Solo.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Does anyone here vape dry herb with terpenes? Can I add black peppers (has the terpene Caryophyllene in it), d- Limonene, and alpha & beta Pinene to vape weed and how much before it becomes toxic? I use a Arizer Solo.

Welcome to the thread.

Was wondering? Did you have any purpose besides flavor? The endocannabinoid system (ECS) perhaps? What form does the d-Limonene & Pinenes come in and from? Black Pepper? I do like fresh peppercorns over ground for the oils.

There is dry herbs that contain some of those compounds and certain terpenes that are vapable. Throughout this thread and on a few other FC threads, there are some examples worth reading. I'd at least start 5 pages back on this thread or at the beginning if you wish to delve deeper on that. The subject is fresh to me and I have been asking answering and questions myself.

There is a concern with certain oils or anything that becomes flammable at a certain temp. Another consideration is it vapable on it's own? Would it leave a residue?
Have to know more about what you have. Or if you say heard these terpenes were something.
Check the video above for an extraction method.

 

[Budwiser]

Welcome to the thread.

Was wondering? Did you have any purpose besides flavor? The endocannabinoid system (ECS) perhaps? What form does the d-Limonene & Pinenes come in and from? Black Pepper? I do like fresh peppercorns over ground for the oils.

There is dry herbs that contain some of those compounds and certain terpenes that are vapable. Throughout this thread and on a few other FC threads, there are some examples worth reading. I'd at least start 5 pages back on this thread or at the beginning if you wish to delve deeper on that. The subject is fresh to me and I have been asking answering and questions myself.

There is a concern with certain oils or anything that becomes flammable at a certain temp. Another consideration is it vapable on it's own? Would it leave a residue?
Have to know more about what you have. Or if you say heard these terpenes were something.
Check the video above for an extraction method.

I don't mind the flavor, but more concerned about the secondary effect that the terpenes brings out. My D- Limonene is food grade (USP) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SRTBMVC/?m=A612PU753849U&ref_=pe_823600_114105210 , the Malabar (India) black pepper I got from Costco which is steamed sterilized and is in fine grind (powder) form. I don't have the pinene yet (still looking for a food grade version). But as of now I was thinking with the material I currently have with me that I could mix some mid grade bud sprinkled with black pepper then add a drop of D- Limonene to put in my Airzer Air Solo bowl stem to vape. What you think? So my main concern is if adding too much that it would be "toxic" the problem is I don't know when to stop!

 

[CuckFumbustion]

I don't mind the flavor, but more concerned about the secondary effect that the terpenes brings out. My D- Limonene is food grade (USP) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SRTBMVC/?m=A612PU753849U&ref_=pe_823600_114105210 , the Malabar (India) black pepper I got from Costco which is steamed sterilized and is in fine grind (powder) form. I don't have the pinene yet (still looking for a food grade version). But as of now I was thinking with the material I currently have with me that I could mix some mid grade bud sprinkled with black pepper then add a drop of D- Limonene to put in my Airzer Air Solo bowl stem to vape. What you think? So my main concern is if adding too much that it would be "toxic" the problem is I don't know when to stop!

Other than what I mentioned earlier, and judging by what was mentioned on the latest posts on food safe terpenes thread you opened up. I'd definitely wait and accumulate more answers. There is way too many unsafe ways to damage your vape or YOU with liquids. It sounds dangerous and there are herb and planty alternatives that vape just fine. Without the same dangers and perhaps a few other pluses.

I'd read the posts here for that and other plants that have positive effects. Lemongrass has Myrcene and is vapable dry. Lemongrass 100% Essential Oil is dangerous in that concentration and there is no water to heat it up. To use in a vape and would irritate the lungs or worse.

I did look at the links and will delve into the subject deeper myself. Just don't start any newer threads on the topic and allow the messages to accumulate and ask further questions and perhaps offer even more of what you know. Food grade terpenes. http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/food-grade-terpenes.20652/

I leaned a couple things from that thread already, here and a few other threads where the topic comes up in different matters.

 

[Budwiser]

I'm looking forward to sharing more knowledge with you concerning this.

 

[kellya86]

So as far as putting my dried lemongrass in the MP section of the flowermate, while I have traditional herbs in the main chamber...

It works...but only if the mp is preheated... (relying on conduction rather than hoping for some sort of weak convection from the warm air up draught of vapour)

But yeah, it does give a nice lemon undertone to my herbs...for the first few hits anyway, I remove it long before my red session starts...

I feel I could make this work better in my eq...

I will use an ssv wand and loosely pack the lemon grass between the basket and fitted internal screen...

Then load my herb in the basket as normal...

I will try this tonight and report back....

 

[draakjeszijnlief]

Did anyone from here vape muira puama and whats your experience with it? Thank you

 

[Oldvape53]

Just found this thread. Been too busy enjoying my new Arizer EQ, but now want to use it for passion flower. Tried dried herb, it has a lot of stock in it, works lightly, but need it to be much more concentrated. I'm thinking of filtering out the woody stock, and just using the powdered green stuff in the bag. I've been drinking an extract, which is much more effective, but 25% ethyl alcohol, so it's not vapable. Is there a form of passion flower, like a pure paste, I could vape like thc concentrates? I live in a small town, so not much available here, so not sure what is available.

 

[mephisto]

Perhaps allow your dry passion flower to steep in grain alcohol for awhile. Drain, strain, and evap the alcohol. Now you have a vapable extract. I would suggest a measure of caution as I believe passion flower can have similar interactions as SSRI related meds, as well as MOAI meds.

 

[Oldvape53]

I believe so as well. I suffer from very acute anxiety however, and some of my chemical prescriptions are far more scary. I don't mind risking MOAI type behavior.

 

[mephisto]

I was leaning more towards avoidance of using this extract with SSRI, or MAOI meds in combination. Serotonin Sickness makes acute anxiety feel like a bubble bath IME.... Fair warning, that's all. Please let us know if you try this route.


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[Oldvape53]

No, I'm looking to use this as a replacement. I have many prescriptions, but I don't use them. Currently use mainly thc extracts, but not quite sufficient. Tried passion flower, found it added something to the equation. I'm looking to stay off all my chemical meds, they are very bad for physical and mental health in the end.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Just found this thread. Been too busy enjoying my new Arizer EQ, but now want to use it for passion flower. Tried dried herb, it has a lot of stock in it, works lightly, but need it to be much more concentrated. I'm thinking of filtering out the woody stock, and just using the powdered green stuff in the bag. I've been drinking an extract, which is much more effective, but 25% ethyl alcohol, so it's not vapable. Is there a form of passion flower, like a pure paste, I could vape like thc concentrates? I live in a small town, so not much available here, so not sure what is available.

Not sure what you are getting, But the Passion flower I get is STRONG. I have some health food stores and tea shoppes that keep me in stock. I scoop out what I want with a plastic scoop. There is some commercial teas that are vapable, But make sure there isn't things like added sugar or non vapable teas mixed in. See what dried herbs are available in your local store if you town isn't too small.

If you can tell me what country or area you are in, I can find a source for sources if you'd like. You might have some nativly grown plants that are vapable too.

I have actually vaped Tazo's Passion Flower which is a blend of other dried flowers.
Have an EQ myself, and like the lower temp range available for other vapable herbs. Its great for that.

 

[Oldvape53]

I'm in Canada, in a small town, Nelson B.C., not much here. The passion flower herb I can get locally has tons of stock in it, still expensive. I just found caps of flowers of it today, they want almost 40 bucks a box ug. Guess that's what I'll have to get. Also wanted to vape Kava Kava, but I can only find it in a powder form. Not sure if I can mix it with PG, and then drip on cotton or what.... same with the only rhodiola and valerian root I can find. Also want to vape lavender oil and lemon balm. All anti-anxiety aids.

 

[shark sandwich]

@Oldvape53

You can order a kava extract that has been specially prepared for vaporization here: http://www.organicspiceblend.com/kavadabs.html

I haven't used this product yet, but have been meaning to. It's the only kava extract I've found that's sold without filler. I've dabbed inferior stuff that's cut with root powder, and referred to as "paste". It worked okay, but this stuff would definitely work much better.

I don't know how to effectively thin kava extract for use in a vaporizer. I prefer using extracts at full potency, which means I change out the vaporizer before adjusting the vaporizables. Once you know the consistency of the material you need to vaporize, you can find the best equipment for the task. I know some members here use hemp cloth in place of cotton, but I can't recall where to find that information at the moment.

 

[To_thy_cloud]

@To_thy_cloud
I've had good luck using hydrogen peroxide on things that smell.

Thanks guys, appreciate it. I have reserved a PAX solely for the purpose of testing out other things. Cinnamon, basil, mint. Want to try a baked chicken with an infused volcano bag.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Want to try a baked chicken with an infused volcano bag.

I laughed. But, That is an interesting idea.You got me thinking about that. TYVM

People have used turkey/chicken roasting bags for substitutes for Vape bags. Which could be thrown in the oven with a chicken and dry herbs. So you could do it in that manner. ABV BBQ CX anyone?

Starting to get to know passion flower and what might be available locally myself. Some people already harvest and dry herbs locally where I'm at and sell them in shops. Been vaping locally picked lemon balm, mint blends (with apple mint), and peppermint. Now passion fruit is on my list.

Kava Kava root is more of a beverage thing that is best absorbed through the stomach for me then something you would vape. IMHO I try to get with how the natives consumed it. There is some posts about 5 or less pages back that have some basic Kava Kava info plus the dangers of tu-dai kava and other health questions. If anybody is curious.

Kava Paste and dabs I've read one or two negative reviews. But Kava Kava isn't exactly a taste treat either. So I take that as a consideration.

Vaporization requires the materials to have a certain amount of water content. Although drier is better for extraction.

Been liking lemongrass. Hope there is a native species of that available.

 

[kellya86]

Dammit I jus chucked my old, sticky, yellow bag out. From the early eq days, before I realised I didn't like bags..

Iv got a couple of pheasants that need eating, could have bagged them...

I don't use bags now...

Someone please try this and report back,

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Cannachicken sounds awesome.

 

[kellya86]

Maybe I'll jus yam a cola up its bum...

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Are Raspberry leaves considered vapable? Been finding more herbs at the co-op, herb store and elsewhere. Want to know what is available naturally growing in my area in the spring. Vaping flowers are making me more aware of the plant kingdom in my back yard. Thanks FC for making me more curious.
My Flowermate 1.0 has been working great with a colavita olive oil bottle and a 2 hole rubber plug with glass stems as my herb water filter. It works much like a Arizer solo upside down with the lighter temp herbs. Been adding a single drop of lemongrass oil to the herb blends I use. But plan on getting fresh in the future. It is an essential oil 100%, no alcohol or fillers. BTW.Still thinking about making ABV BBQ CX. or some Tom Kha Gai.

 

[Oldvape53]

Getting frustrated at trying to find vapable herbs around here... did find and stock up on a bunch of some very nice toffee hash which vaporizes perfect in cotton.... now have rhodiola and ashwagandha root powders to add to my experiments. Also some lavender oil, that should vaporize nice! It's fun to vaporize sh*t! Can't believe I ever lived without an EQ......

 

[MinnBobber]

On a list of vape possibles, I saw green tea and know nothing about vaping it---taste, effects, etc.
Before jumping in, any advice or green tea experience ??

I have some really nice single plantation, high altitude grown Kenyan green tea (Kapchorua).

Can you also vape black tea?? Kenyan (Milima)

Do you get some/all of the health benefits from vaping green tea vs drinking it?