The ethnobotanical thread

[Teedub]

Just got myself some dried blue lotus , theyook beautiful and ltaste delightful .Loading 0.5 at once in a big bowl vaporizer induces quite the euphoric state i must say, a slight boost of colors,the shapes seem less sharp and everything is nice and comfortable. To be honest i didnt expect such strong effects.

You can also try steeping the lotus in alcohol, if that appeals. There have been a few studies that looked into the conversion of actives when steeped. From what I've seen the ancient Egyptian use of Blue lotus was predominantly steeped in wine and drunk.

My favorite alternative vape-able is def damiana at the moment. I've vaped all types of plants and this one has become a regular staple. Great terp profile, fairly resinous so it vapes quite well. Its extremely affordable and really compliments cannabis both in flavour and effect.
I find the effects to be surprisingly similar. Its relaxing and stimulating just more basic, minus the psychedelic headiness if you will. I find its a good light daytime alternative and often prefer it, which says a lot.

Thanks for the Celastrus paniculatus tip Ill give that a try, Im always on the lookout for good natural nootropics too.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

@Teedub I recommed finding white sage (Salvia Apeana) . It is my top recommendation if you havent tried it already. Good luck with the celastrus,it is a great booster. It is almost unthinkable that there is so much power in just a few seeds. I have ingested orally steam distilled blue lotus essential oil. The experience is really great ,euphotric with a little boost on the visual side,but huge downside is that your breath smells like you have drinked aftershave for more than a day,lol.. A great mix for taste and effects is Sceletium resin over some White sage leafs.

 

[vaporoufixtras]

@Teedub I recommed finding white sage (Salvia Apeana) . It is my top recommendation if you havent tried it already. Good luck with the celastrus,it is a great booster. It is almost unthinkable that there is so much power in just a few seeds. I have ingested orally steam distilled blue lotus essential oil. The experience is really great ,euphotric with a little boost on the visual side,but huge downside is that your breath smells like you have drinked aftershave for more than a day,lol.. A great mix for taste and effects is Sceletium resin over some White sage leafs.

How does it compare to salvia divinorum (the "common" salvia)? It is one of the psychedelics I always stayed away from as from what I've read it can be a lot harsher than shrooms or acid.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

How does it compare to salvia divinorum (the "common" salvia)? It is one of the psychedelics I always stayed away from as from what I've read it can be a lot harsher than shrooms or acid.

It doesnt. It is a terpene rich aromatic herb with great potential. You can read about it here.

http://thesis.honors.olemiss.edu/622/1/Taylor%20Hayes%20Thesis.pdf

 

[Teedub]

@Teedub I recommed finding white sage (Salvia Apeana) . It is my top recommendation if you havent tried it already. Good luck with the celastrus,it is a great booster. It is almost unthinkable that there is so much power in just a few seeds. I have ingested orally steam distilled blue lotus essential oil. The experience is really great ,euphotric with a little boost on the visual side,but huge downside is that your breath smells like you have drinked aftershave for more than a day,lol.. A great mix for taste and effects is Sceletium resin over some White sage leafs.

Good call my fellow wizarde, I often smudge with white sage but never tried vaping it for some reason lol.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

Kanna extracts and effective alkaloids – their properties and therapeutic potential

gaiastore.eu

Here is a good read on sceletium if anyone is interested .

 

[BabyRas]

Soursop shares alkaloids with opium... the leaves are a fun vape. More than a nervine. Tea is still better, though.

edit; shares alkaloids with blue lotus too

 

[BabyRas]

Traded my x20 salvia extract for some gas. Salvia extracts really drive home that plant extracts are man-made things with worse drawbacks than what unadulterated nature offers, a lesson that can also be applied in a lesser degree to hash and olive oil. Has anybody used dry leaf salvia divinorum in their vape, not an extract? I'd love to know what its like...

 

[Ramahs]

Traded my x20 salvia extract for some gas. Salvia extracts really drive home that plant extracts are man-made things with worse drawbacks than what unadulterated nature offers, a lesson that can also be applied in a lesser degree to hash and olive oil. Has anybody used dry leaf salvia divinorum in their vape, not an extract? I'd love to know what its like...

Never had 20x Salvia, but I first had 10x a couple times, them I went to 70x for a couple trips.

I haven't had it in years, but it was an interesting drug. One thing I found intriguing is that it was the only hallucinogenic drug I've tried that, during the trips, I had no recollection that I had taken the drug, and the hallucination I was experiencing was just reality for me at the time. I enjoyed that part of the experience quite a bit.

 

[ImprisonedFetus]

Anyone ever try vaping plain green tea? I'm taking a t-break and would really like something I can puff on without getting high but I can't afford hemp flower at the moment, which is my usual go-to during a break

 

[Ramahs]

Anyone ever try vaping plain green tea? I'm taking a t-break and would really like something I can puff on without getting high but I can't afford hemp flower at the moment, which is my usual go-to during a break

I don't have an answer for you, my friend...but I do remember when I was about 12 years old (had never had access to cannabis, or really any drug except alcohol at that point), and I decided to try smoking all the herbs in my mother's spice rack in the kitchen to see if any of them gave me any effects. So, I took small amounts of one herb at a time, taking just enough to roll a joint to see what would happen if I smoked it.

^ That being said, I told the story above to say, don't ever try to smoke crushed red peppers (the kind you sprinkle on pizza), because that was one of the most painful experiences of my childhood. I was literally out in the woods by myself thinking I was about to die at 12 years old as my lungs collapsed, without my mom knowing where I was. That sucked

Your comment about other "botanicals" just reminded me of those younger days, lolz.

 

[rizlafreak]

I will test some stuff from here,
atm i'm most curious about white sage. I ordered dry leaves and I wonder, if it's a bad idea to vape
the essential oil in a dab rig?

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

if it's a bad idea to vape
the essential oil in a dab rig?

Essential oils vaporize at very low temperatures. They start deteriorating at 60°C (140°F) and over 100°C (210°F) oxydation will destroy all the medicinal properties.

I'd prefer convection over conduction for vaporizing essential oils. You can put a drop on a ball of hemp fiber and use it in the bowl of an injector vape. Some manufacturers make dedicated bowls for essentials oils (Da Buddha, Arizer EQ, Herborizer Ti...)

 

[rizlafreak]

... received an aroma lamp today. Will just put the sage oil in there then and enjoy very mild effects...
don't want to drink that stuff really or inhale high concentrations for now, since its quite a bit toxic with 60% thujone. but I'm going to vape the pure herbs soon... And I ordered 2 white sage plants, so i will have my own...
Would put them on my windowfront, with many sunny hours in big clay containers. in winter it's rather cold on that spot, so hopefully it grows full powa in the living room.

 

[rizlafreak]

update. put some drops of the sage oil in the waterfilter. It gets really well absorbed by the air in the process..., however all I feel is slight almost instant headache, so I just iso cleansed it and will not experiment with the essential oil any further. just smells fine in the air with that aroma lamp.
Not sure about the effect of vaped dry herb yet.

 

[rizlafreak]

Let's test it

 

[Ramahs]

Let's test it

What are these supposed to be?

 

[Rodney]

I started using ashwagandha 2 month ago and they have really helped with my stress levels and stop me getting too irritated at some hings.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

Lately i am amusing myself with Blue Lotus carts . Says 100% Blue lotus ,made in canada. Effect are really nice ,if you do a lot you can get into deep meditative state, almost free of any though, i havent been able to reach this with any other herb . Active ingredient is Nuciferine , i call it Luciferin in my mind .

 

[mephisto]

Just received a batch of wild lettuce extract, vapes real well by itself in the Pax wrapped in hemp fiber. Very dense resin, good sedation and central nervous system relaxant. I have had mixed results with the powdered extract, but this wet hashlike extract is pretty good. Need to mix this with the blue Lotus extract I just got as well. My past experiments with sublingual Lotus absolute were stronger than I expected.
Good to see other psychonauts here....

 

[Tji89]

@mephisto the blue lotus extract you got, was it powder? I got nuciferine 2% & 98%, I don't know what that means with the % and how to dose.
Do you maybe know ?

 

[Rodney]

stopped taking Ashwagandha a few days ago and feeling so tired and lazy but not in a bad way.

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

I've found ChatGPT exceptionally helpful when it comes to dosing, and working out the best way to stack multiple extracts for maximum effects.

It's also particularly useful at pointing out potential interactions with other meds you may or may not be using.

I've not posted here about this, because I'm generally not vaping the kanna/rhodiola/l theanine/blue lotus extract that's my current thing, but I'm certain it can tailor its advice for those who want to vape things.

Here's an example of what it can produce. I've found it to be very helpful at tailoring effects to order, as well as suggesting complementary ingredients.