The b2cvape (Tiodw) Thread

3l3tric

TM2 PH and Tiodw Plus 2.0 cured my VAS
A thread for all the various Tiodw models from b2cvape on aliexpress

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I went with a Tiodw Plus 2.0 as my first ball vape purchase about 2 months ago, after being intrigued by the design, material, and price point. I went with the standard Ti bowl for this unit, grabbed 2.5mm sphere cut rubies from a separate source for the fill medium, and use a dabpress PID I acquired separately (PID settings: P-43, I-200, D-3).

I've ordered a few things off aliexpress before, but this was easily the fastest shipping I've ever had at 9 days. The packaging from b2c was spartan, but also still included things like bubblewrap, so fine in my book. I put all the metal parts through deep cleaning with iso, and removed a couple small pieces of titanium shavings that were still on the unit from the milling process (these came off extremely easily and no more have arisen to cause any other issues, so I won't really fault them for this either, although this should be part of basic aftercleaning).

As far as long term impressions go, this thing absolutely cleared any and all expectations of what I had for ball vapes. Personally, I have absolutely no interest in any other metal wired ball vape; the only others I'm interested in are one wireless unit, and one made from Zirconia to see what the material differences are for myself. This thing roasts bowls extremely evenly, and can get a very thorough roast even at lower temperatures. I run my PID at 393 F, and still manage to reliably get milk-to-dark chocolate colored brown roasts with absolutely no green overtones left. There's absolutely no lighter ring around the edge; the only color difference is on the side that's in direct contact with the screen underneath.

A lot of this comes from the unique design. Unlike most other wired ballers, the plus 2.0 extends about half of its extended barrel coil over the bowl itself, rather than just keeping it around the rubies on top. Coupled with using the ti bowl, this adds much more conduction into the bowl than you'd get from a standard ball vape, save for if you were using a heated bowl like a vulcan. The thermometer on the coil also ends up responding a little differently than other ball vapes; placing the heater on the bowl causes the thermometer reading to drop by about 30deg over the next minute or so, which gives you a nice indicator of when to start hitting the bowl (about 40 sec in, when the temperature starts to rebound back upwards from its lowest point).

I'll be very upfront that I don't have any other ball vapes to compare this to, so all my hype could just be me being very impressed by the ball vape format generally. But from what I've seen from other ball vape owners, it definitely seems at the very least like the plus 2.0 punches well above its price point. Start to finish my whole setup was <$200, and it outperforms results I've seen from $300+ vapes.

Anyway, I'm excited to hear about which models all of you own, and your impressions of them! While I probably won't be getting any of the other models myself, I'm sure there are at least a couple other pretty interesting ones.

edit: of course i made this thread after ripping a bowl, and didn't realize that I actually made it in the wrong subforum 😅 not sure if there's a way for me to delete and remake or if it needs to be manually moved by a mod
 
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Hippie

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I would say that "unique design" is a copy of the Vapvana Screwball ...... but tomato tomato potato potato
I have a few of their vapes, the Qaroma copies are pretty good value too
 

3l3tric

TM2 PH and Tiodw Plus 2.0 cured my VAS
I would say that "unique design" is a copy of the Vapvana Screwball ...... but tomato tomato potato potato
I have a few of their vapes, the Qaroma copies are pretty good value too
I'll be fully honest that I never looked especially hard at the screwball, and always just assumed the coil stopped short of the bowl on it too. I knew it was weird that I'd only seen this one vape with that form factor, lol.

I will say though, it looks like the plus 2.0 bowl is deeper than the screwball by a decent amount, and the price point is nearly half. But now it makes a lot more sense why I've been seeing so much praise for the screwball around, haha
 
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NinneDDu

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I am a happy owner of tiodw mini 2.0 (which I made wireless) and tiodw pro. I have been using both daily for over a year now, cheap and effective, the latest model does not excite me that much
 
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Oden

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For my part, I am a fan of 14mm injector size ballvapes.
So I ordered a tiodw lite which I should receive soon.

I have always heard good things about B2cvape equipment, and apparently its tiodw plus 2.0 hits as hard as any other 22mm type diffusers.
 
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I just bought the plus 2.0, too. Do we know wich glass bowls are compatible with this?

Atm I'm also thinking if it's worth trying the pro mini, since it has a few 'features ' the plus 2 doesnt have... its smaller, wireless and pure convection.
 
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cvs8floz

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A thread for all the various Tiodw models from b2cvape on aliexpress

Store link

I went with a Tiodw Plus 2.0 as my first ball vape purchase about 2 months ago, after being intrigued by the design, material, and price point. I went with the standard Ti bowl for this unit, grabbed 2.5mm sphere cut rubies from a separate source for the fill medium, and use a dabpress PID I acquired separately (PID settings: P-43, I-200, D-3).

I've ordered a few things off aliexpress before, but this was easily the fastest shipping I've ever had at 9 days. The packaging from b2c was spartan, but also still included things like bubblewrap, so fine in my book. I put all the metal parts through deep cleaning with iso, and removed a couple small pieces of titanium shavings that were still on the unit from the milling process (these came off extremely easily and no more have arisen to cause any other issues, so I won't really fault them for this either, although this should be part of basic aftercleaning).

As far as long term impressions go, this thing absolutely cleared any and all expectations of what I had for ball vapes. Personally, I have absolutely no interest in any other metal wired ball vape; the only others I'm interested in are one wireless unit, and one made from Zirconia to see what the material differences are for myself. This thing roasts bowls extremely evenly, and can get a very thorough roast even at lower temperatures. I run my PID at 393 F, and still manage to reliably get milk-to-dark chocolate colored brown roasts with absolutely no green overtones left. There's absolutely no lighter ring around the edge; the only color difference is on the side that's in direct contact with the screen underneath.

A lot of this comes from the unique design. Unlike most other wired ballers, the plus 2.0 extends about half of its extended barrel coil over the bowl itself, rather than just keeping it around the rubies on top. Coupled with using the ti bowl, this adds much more conduction into the bowl than you'd get from a standard ball vape, save for if you were using a heated bowl like a vulcan. The thermometer on the coil also ends up responding a little differently than other ball vapes; placing the heater on the bowl causes the thermometer reading to drop by about 30deg over the next minute or so, which gives you a nice indicator of when to start hitting the bowl (about 40 sec in, when the temperature starts to rebound back upwards from its lowest point).

I'll be very upfront that I don't have any other ball vapes to compare this to, so all my hype could just be me being very impressed by the ball vape format generally. But from what I've seen from other ball vape owners, it definitely seems at the very least like the plus 2.0 punches well above its price point. Start to finish my whole setup was <$200, and it outperforms results I've seen from $300+ vapes.

Anyway, I'm excited to hear about which models all of you own, and your impressions of them! While I probably won't be getting any of the other models myself, I'm sure there are at least a couple other pretty interesting ones.

edit: of course i made this thread after ripping a bowl, and didn't realize that I actually made it in the wrong subforum 😅 not sure if there's a way for me to delete and remake or if it needs to be manually moved by a mod
I purchased the same items a few months ago and have a very similar story to tell. I own the B1, Zeal and Omega ball vapes, the Tidow Plus 2.0 is a whole different animal when mated to their 8-wrap 30mm coil and metal bowl, the hits in the low 400s are instant and insane, this is a perfect combo of conduction and convection as stated above because the coil covers most of bowl and doesn't just sit on top. You actually get hits very similar to the ones you get when using 2 coils, one on the bowl, the other on the head (like the electropath or Vulcan bowl), but with just 1 coil.
 
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Which bowls are compatible with tiodw plus 2.0, and which are not?

Do you think that the 22mm glass diffuser bowls from coud connoisseur are compatible?
 
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cvs8floz

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Which bowls are compatible with tiodw plus 2.0, and which are not?

Do you think that the 22mm glass diffuser bowls from coud connoisseur are compatible?
The Tidow plus 2.0 fits pretty much all my 22mm glass and metal diffuser bowls very well, especially the taller ones that don't work well with the Zeal. It does stick to certain glass bowls if the fit is tight, all the 22mm diffuser heads I own are slightly different in width and all the glass bowls are also slightly different so you just pick the ones that fit best for each head.
 
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Eloh

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The Tidow plus 2.0 fits pretty much all my 22mm glass and metal diffuser bowls very well, especially the taller ones that don't work well with the Zeal. It does stick to certain glass bowls if the fit is tight, all the 22mm diffuser heads I own are slightly different in width and all the glass bowls are also slightly different so you just pick the ones that fit best for each head.
hey there, do you know if the Screwball Hybrid micro bowl would work with the Tiodw Plus 2.0?
im thinking about buying this as a microdosing option
 
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cvs8floz

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hey there, do you know if the Screwball Hybrid micro bowl would work with the Tiodw Plus 2.0?
im thinking about buying this as a microdosing option
You can use it, but it is total overkill for microdosing, this thing is meant for large bowls with 3-5 scoops, perfect for the home grower. Even roast and no big difference between hit 1 and hit 4, no more whimsy first hit. And all that in the low 400s for temp.
 
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i know, but since i already own the plus 2.0 i thought it might be an improvement in terms of using smaller amounts eg more efficiency.
or would you rather buy a dedicated microdosing vape?
Also thinking about buying either the rubylizer or maybe the pinch hitter or tiodw mini pro?
just for everyday more efficiency...
 
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cvs8floz

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i know, but since i already own the plus 2.0 i thought it might be an improvement in terms of using smaller amounts eg more efficiency.
or would you rather buy a dedicated microdosing vape?
Also thinking about buying either the rubylizer or maybe the pinch hitter or tiodw mini pro?
just for everyday more efficiency...
I see progress in the ball vape space reflected in the operating temps for each new itineration, starting with the non-ball Weedeater, then the B1, Zeal, Omega, Tidow Plus and many more (I obviously don't own all of them). Temps have dropped from the high 600s to the low 400s, and hits are more even as stated before. The coils have already grown to a massive 30mm wide, are we heading for even bigger coils? B2cvape sells another injector head with a 40mm tall coil, I prefer the diffusers so I didn't get it. I guess the sky is the limit in terms of size.
 
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MTpromises

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i know, but since i already own the plus 2.0 i thought it might be an improvement in terms of using smaller amounts eg more efficiency.
or would you rather buy a dedicated microdosing vape?
Also thinking about buying either the rubylizer or maybe the pinch hitter or tiodw mini pro?
just for everyday more efficiency...
I like the microdose bowl, it makes packing small amounts easy. Like right now, vaping in the dark, watching TV. Just filling the microdose bowl is easier than packing a small amount into the full bowl.

I also like one hit pulls, so I think something like the 2.0 would be perfect, just like the Screwball is meant to be paired with it.
 
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