Tama Tama no Mi
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Thanks! Agreed!! That explains very well why the temps need to drop back down to the wired temps when using a barrel vs axial coil.
Mounting the coil upside down for shorter housings makes sense and is a great idea too!
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Thanks! Agreed!! That explains very well why the temps need to drop back down to the wired temps when using a barrel vs axial coil.
Mounting the coil upside down for shorter housings makes sense and is a great idea too!
CreatureGlass
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Yeah I own a Tiodw mini pro Ti and a Ceramic V3. They both perform well, the mini pro and the ceramic v3 are pretty close but the ceramic is slightly better for flavour but has to be at a higher temp than the mini pro. The v3 ceramic can need stirring depending on start temp and bowl used but the mini pro gives very even roasts and does make for tasty one and done (pure convection) hits and it's wireless too. I have to say though that my screwball and Ace are my favourite vapes they're great for big loads or micro dosing using the micro dose bowl or just moving the screen in the standard Ti bowl. When using the glass bowl with the screwball or Ace, they both produce well cloudy tasty hits. The best for flavour I have though is the GoPhase3 ZX it's also the best for microdosing although I find the zx zirconia bowl is the best for one and done I find the glass bowl the best for flavour. Saying that I'd really like to get my hands on the new Vapvana Natural,, which is a Quartz ball vape with sapphire balls or gems it's available now for 110vac areas of the world but no 220vac versions yet . From previews on The Troy&Jerry show this sounds and looks to be one of the best ball vapes on the market for both flavour and effects. Hope fully I'll be able to test one soon if I win lol. I'm hoping to lob a few review vids on YT etc, if I ever get round to.it. I've done a few on IG for the Tornado by vestratto, Ace and Screwball by Vapvana, and ZX by GoPhase3. Id post a link or my IG name but not sure that's allowed. Hope this helps and hasn't added more confision. Anyone tried the new mini pro ceramic by Tiodw or the ceramic pro?
myvolcanohurtsmylungs
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hey y'all, been following this thread for a while - finally making the jump.
This is my purchase list for b2cstore (Imgur link, click here)
Other than the ruby balls, what am I missing? I'm going to message b2cvape to find exactly how many ruby balls I need, but first I need to choose my bowl. the options are so confusing. I don't want something too big, maybe like a 0.4-0.6 gram bowl size. " 14mm OD22 Ti Bowl" anyone?? and then TIODW pro housing? i'm confused im sorry guys im so close to fully understanding
any help would be greatly appreciated as this volcano is killing me
This is my purchase list for b2cstore (Imgur link, click here)
Other than the ruby balls, what am I missing? I'm going to message b2cvape to find exactly how many ruby balls I need, but first I need to choose my bowl. the options are so confusing. I don't want something too big, maybe like a 0.4-0.6 gram bowl size. " 14mm OD22 Ti Bowl" anyone?? and then TIODW pro housing? i'm confused im sorry guys im so close to fully understanding
any help would be greatly appreciated as this volcano is killing me
That is a weird list of things.
The best is to decide on the housing for the balls first. From there you choose the coil, stand and bowl.
What do you want. Conduction or convection heavy? Difference is that convection uses the heat of the air to extract while conduction relies more on heating the material by being in contact with a hot surface. In reality it is always a mix of conduction and convection, so you really choose the amount of conduction you want to have.
The more conduction, in general the more sedative the effects.
0.4 - 0.6 grams is A LOT for a single bowl. Are you sure that is your standard amount for a bowl?
Do you want Wireless or Wired? Wireless looses heat faster while you draw on it. So back to back bowls are better done with wired vapes.
Titanium Bowls introduce more conduction than glass bowls. So if you want a lot of conduction, you can choose a titanium bowl and a titanium conduction housing. If you want the least conduction you could go with a ceramic head and glass bowl.
As said, narrow down the housing first.
Tama Tama no Mi
Active Member
Hey fellow Tiodw fans!!
I recommend checking out the DHgate Tiodw store vs the b2cvape store.
1) B2C has all of their housings and even bowls hidden in their store page which is confusing for anyone interested in a Tiodw housing for the first time.
2) Tiodw store is a little bit cheaper overall with free shipping.
3) The Tiodw store has updated bowls that B2C doesn’t, like an updated and upgraded Tiodw plus 2.0 22mm diffuser bowl. It now has a tighter fit and wider more open airflow at the joint.
4) Tiodw store released a new item the B2C has not. They now sell 25mm and 30mm ID extended length axial coils. (10 wraps)
Those new coils may be indication that they are working on new wireless housings in both 25mm and 30mm sizes. That could be really interesting.
I recommend checking out the DHgate Tiodw store vs the b2cvape store.
1) B2C has all of their housings and even bowls hidden in their store page which is confusing for anyone interested in a Tiodw housing for the first time.
2) Tiodw store is a little bit cheaper overall with free shipping.
3) The Tiodw store has updated bowls that B2C doesn’t, like an updated and upgraded Tiodw plus 2.0 22mm diffuser bowl. It now has a tighter fit and wider more open airflow at the joint.
4) Tiodw store released a new item the B2C has not. They now sell 25mm and 30mm ID extended length axial coils. (10 wraps)
Those new coils may be indication that they are working on new wireless housings in both 25mm and 30mm sizes. That could be really interesting.
Oden
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Yes, they'll be releasing a copy of the Universal Baller very soon.
I saw the first images yesterday.
A perfect copy, lol.
But those who want to save money can buy this copy of the UB.
Tama Tama no Mi
Active Member
For real?
I have the UB kit as a founder so I just can’t support that. That’s really disappointing and a let down. They’ve been decent at being original for a while imo. Ever since I got a Taroma360 I’ve been wanting a 22mm diffuser with a dropped down coil. The plus 2.0 was the first in my memory to do that, well before the UB or the T360 XLS. So if it’s just a wireless Tiodw plus 2.0 I think that’s fair game.If there’s a 30mm wireless housing coming out then that’s not really a copy is it? I havnt seen any 30mm wireless housings yet so to me that would be pretty original. I think.
Are you able to share some pics on here?
Tama Tama no Mi
Active Member
Never mind! I got sent the pics already and just didn’t check!
You were not exaggerating. I was not expecting a glass insert (I suspect it’s not quartz if priced very low), it looks like a fritted disk and high airflow glass screen too. They added an injector end but otherwise it does look identical. I really didn’t see this coming and I wish they did more than add the injector end to differentiate it. Still waiting to hear about what that 30mm coil is all about tho.
MTpromises
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I'm pretty sure Tiodw 2.0 came out after the Screwball. But the problem with these basic vapes is surely all the patents involving heat/vapor/pipes were taken out in the 1800's.
Tama Tama no Mi
Active Member
That’s true and fair!
There was also the 360 and then the Tiodw plus that did the same thing too, just in a smaller 20mm format and narrow bowls. I bought all of them included the screwball. Unfortunately they didn’t scratch my itch for a standard 22mm diffuser version that is compatible with all the 22mm diffuser bowls I’ve collected over the years.
Proprietary bowls are also expensive! Just a glass 360 bowl would cost me $100 after the shipping cost plus duties/taxes. Screwball half glass hybrid bowls are around $100 CAD.
Does anybody know if the Tiodw aluminum stand is threaded for 10/24 titanium posts?
I would like to thread my 14mm SKO Titanium post into one of the Tiodw heat stands.
The price is right and much cheaper than the Cannabis Hardware base stands.
Thanks in advance for all assistance.
I would like to thread my 14mm SKO Titanium post into one of the Tiodw heat stands.
The price is right and much cheaper than the Cannabis Hardware base stands.
Thanks in advance for all assistance.
Tama Tama no Mi
Active Member
I think I can help! I dont have a CH stand but is it the same universal threading that CH and OWW uses for the handles? (I can’t remember thread sizes for the life of me)
If so then it’s the same threading. I just tested it with a OWW wireless handle.
Oooo.. thank you for "sciencing" it up for me!I think I can help! I dont have a CH stand but is it the same universal threading that CH and OWW uses for the handles? (I can’t remember thread sizes for the life of me)
If so then it’s the same threading. I just tested it with a OWW wireless handle.
I will have to contact OWW to see what threads they use for the OWW Wireless Handle, as it is unclear which they use on the product page.
Big Swifty
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I'm trying to decide between a couple of different housings for both Ti and Cermaic ball vapes and also wondering if anyone has any experience with the detachable coils. I'm hoping I'm not violating any forum rules/norms by asking about comparisons, but since it's "the tiodw thread" and not a specific housing/model thread I'm assuming I'm good. Thanks for any thoughts/opinions/advice.
I like the flexibility of being able to use a housing as both injector/diffuser. 9 times out of 10 I'd rather do two smaller bowls (which are really medium) over one large. Every now and then I might want to go big and do a .4'ish sized bowl for a more dab like experience, but my average amount would be around .2 , occasionally going down to .1 (or below, if possible).
I haven't tried one, but when I see videos of the Taroma 360 and the description on Ritual Colorado I say to myself, 'I like that.' I'm looking to save money and have seen/heard nothing but positive things on tiodw so here I am. Costs of both tiodw options for both Ti and Ceramic are close enough for price not to be a deciding factor. Right now I'm leaning toward the (original) Plus (which seems the more Taroma 360 like) but also considering the Mini 2.0. The FV Trio looks sweet, but based on my preferred vaping styles I doubt I'd ever need something so large/powerful. For the ceramic option I'm deciding between the V3 and the Pro Mini.
I noticed when pricing out options with the Ti housings that getting a standard coil with a handle only cost a couple few bucks less than the detachable coil which makes it possible to use wired or wireless, depending on how you want to use it at the moment. Pricing out the ceramic options was the same with not much of a price difference between the Pro Mini with an axial coil and the V3 using a detachable coil. I'm guessing the big difference is that the V3 takes 190 3mm balls while the Pro Mini takes 330 so the Pro Mini should be more efficient as far as heat retention for multiple hits, but using the V3 wired up makes that not an issue. Not sure if there are other differences/advantages/something I'm not considering.
I'd probably prefer wireless for one and done hits and to be wired for heat soaks and other reasons. I haven't seen anything on these detachable coils other than a couple of mentions, but no reviews or even comments on whether they're tight and everything you'd hope they'd be, or if they go janky after a bit and leave you wishing you just got a wired coil or went with the true wireless option.
I like the flexibility of being able to use a housing as both injector/diffuser. 9 times out of 10 I'd rather do two smaller bowls (which are really medium) over one large. Every now and then I might want to go big and do a .4'ish sized bowl for a more dab like experience, but my average amount would be around .2 , occasionally going down to .1 (or below, if possible).
I haven't tried one, but when I see videos of the Taroma 360 and the description on Ritual Colorado I say to myself, 'I like that.' I'm looking to save money and have seen/heard nothing but positive things on tiodw so here I am. Costs of both tiodw options for both Ti and Ceramic are close enough for price not to be a deciding factor. Right now I'm leaning toward the (original) Plus (which seems the more Taroma 360 like) but also considering the Mini 2.0. The FV Trio looks sweet, but based on my preferred vaping styles I doubt I'd ever need something so large/powerful. For the ceramic option I'm deciding between the V3 and the Pro Mini.
I noticed when pricing out options with the Ti housings that getting a standard coil with a handle only cost a couple few bucks less than the detachable coil which makes it possible to use wired or wireless, depending on how you want to use it at the moment. Pricing out the ceramic options was the same with not much of a price difference between the Pro Mini with an axial coil and the V3 using a detachable coil. I'm guessing the big difference is that the V3 takes 190 3mm balls while the Pro Mini takes 330 so the Pro Mini should be more efficient as far as heat retention for multiple hits, but using the V3 wired up makes that not an issue. Not sure if there are other differences/advantages/something I'm not considering.
I'd probably prefer wireless for one and done hits and to be wired for heat soaks and other reasons. I haven't seen anything on these detachable coils other than a couple of mentions, but no reviews or even comments on whether they're tight and everything you'd hope they'd be, or if they go janky after a bit and leave you wishing you just got a wired coil or went with the true wireless option.
SockPuppetTheatrics
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I'm looking at the Pro 2.0 (with the glass insert), and I'm not clear on whether the 22mm or the 23mm diffuser is more of the standard. Do they have bowls that would go with one vs. the other?
Oden
Well-Known Member
The 22mm size is the standard.
You can easily find compatible bowls.
Tama Tama no Mi
Active Member
22mm is standard and what I would recommend to keep your bowl options more open.
They have a glass diffuser bowl that works well for pure convection hits, and then the 22mm Ti diffuser bowl. I don’t own a pro 2.0 and I have the UB so no interest from me, but I suspect the Ti 22mm diffuser bowl will work best with it over the glass bowl.
The exact spec is 22.3-4mm so it should easily fit any 3rd party 22mm diffuser bowl imo.
bridgesoid
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Hello :-)
I went through a similar thought process a fair while back. I have used the 360 and Tiodw Plus extensively and I have a Tiodw Plus with the both the regular coil and the detachable coil. With ballers I only do one hit extraction, and the performance is extremely similar between the two. If you would like to get medicated with maximum sedation from a smaller amount of material a heatsoaked Plus is very hard to beat, (eg hits harder than a b1 or screwball in my experience for small loads of same size). The detachable coil works well, a lot more heat retention is available due to the coil remaining with the housing while you hit and it looks exactly the same as the one for the 360 to me. Tabletop Bong and ritual colorado have videos of the coil in use. The Plus and 360 are the hardest hitting vapes I have tried in terms of potency with a heatsoak but I have used smoother ballers that clear quicker (large diffuser heads with lots of rubies). I don't find clearing the load sizes you're talking about to be an issue whatsoever personally. If friends that are medical patients are over I leave the housing on the Ti bowl (with the bowl in an adapter piece between it and my rig to prevent potential locking or shattering of glass). This way the bowl is always heat soaked. Peeps just pop a scoop in, deep breath to clear the lungs and hit it immediately and the bowl cashes super quickly. If you really want increased heat retention you can fill the housing with 2.5mm or 2mm rubies.
The option wasn't available when I got mine but if it was and I was you I'd probably consider not getting the Plus and a ceramic ballvape but maybe just the Universal Baller or tiodw pro 2.0 and a compatible ti bowl that you can slide into one of your existing coils for heatsoaking when you want heavy sedation? Less stuff lying around and That way you could have the best of both worlds with less bulk (max flavour when you want with all glass and max conduction for sedation when pain levels are high with heatsoaked ti, AND you will be able to clear loads faster I'd imagine. That would be my dream setup for a baller pretty much.
If this is your first baller and you need a pid as well, get a dual pid and the coils configured to standard US/Canadian pinout to future proof yourself, just send them a message and they will sort it for you.
TLDR Plus and detachable is inexpensive and will rip your face off but could be smoother.. 18mm TI bowl essential purchase with it. Universal Baller or Tiodw Pro 2.0 with a heatsoaked bowl is very likely best of both worlds and very flexible. I hope that helps and you find the tools that are right for you :-)
edit: If you decide on the plus remove the machined screens and pop a standard screen in place of it for increased airflow, takes 15 seconds and the best mod for the Plus and the 360 IMHO.
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