Tafée Bowle

[Two Heads]

it only takes one hit to give me the

Ha, I think I'm at that point His_Highness! I'm realizing my head has to match the high, not the other way around. But yeah, I'm counting on the Bowle being so much better than my Solo that I can really get the most out of vaping.

 

[kimura]

I recognize many in this thread from the MiniVap thread including yourself and many of you have mentioned the MV when posting about the Bowle.

So if I may ask, yourself and any other MV owners, what distinguishes this from the MV, other than the heat-up time and Drinkware of course, that drew you to this vape? I know that Jorge Fernandez was directly involved with it's development, which in itself is a huge plus, but it just seems like the vape profiles are very close to each other that I question my purchasing this vape. Or is it just the whole Drinkware design concept coupled with an amazing medical grade vape?

I might be assuming too much, but I feel like this post applies to me. The vapor from the bowle is not better than vapor from the mV. It is almost instantly available though, and the mouthpiece cools the vapor very effectively without the need for any accessories

edit: I love the “hiding in plain sight” style of the cup/vape

 

[MinnBobber]

@Smknbud And applies to me with 6 or 7 MiniVAPs.
Bowle is just so damn quick and easy and precise and cool dry-conditioned vapor that comes closest to water -conditioned vapor of anything out there.
The Bowle cooling stem with extra cooling area internal fins/channels is genius.
The slightly angled bowl is genius as side load system were a disaster of complexity and reliability.....think Ghost side loader.
This angled bowl allows firm seal that is the simplest / least complex yet most effective.

I would still rate miniVAP vapor thru warm water bubbler to be better than stock Bowle.
MiniVAP vapor thru glass 8” long OGB mouthpiece slightly better than stock Bowle.

So many variables as these are all at Bowle temp 1 and 2.
IMO , Bowle vapor at temps 3 and 4 degrades much more than MiniVAP .... as seen thru ABV analysis too.
I only keep stellar ABV for edibles.....deep brown absolute consistency from MVap up to max.
Bowle at temp 3 or 4 rarely makes the ABV cut as some is too dark.....probably still better than 90% of vapes but some looks too done.

MiniVAP Flexicone basket modules are one of their genius elements.

Bare Bowle is better feel as portable vs hefty MiniVAP portable BUT mini battery could almost power my E bike...in a different league.

It is great to have both

 

[justcametomind]

This is my first post and I'm looking forward to joining this community. Thanks for having me. After doing my internet research, including reading most of this thread and watching Troy and Jerry's video, I ordered my Bowle last night and I'm pretty pumped to try vaping again. I gave it a good try years ago. I had an Arizer V-Tower which I eventually gave up on because I just wasn't getting the same high I get from a waterpipe. Back to the bong. Then the Solo came out and I really tried to make that work. About three years and two batteries - it didn't owe me anything. Except the same high I get from a waterpipe. So, back to the bong. To be honest my main hope is that the Bowle gives me the kind of full-spectrum high I know and love from my waterpipe. The V-Tower, Solo, PAX and other vapes I've tried always left be feeling like... more bass, more treble please, it's all midrange high. So far everything I've read here suggests that's NOT the case with the Bowle but I thought I'd ask outright. Is the high from a vape of this quality as good as clean bong hits? Is it better? (Wouldn't that be nice?)

Quick edit: I just read the FC Knowledge Base article Switching from smoking to vaporizing. It gave me a new perspective on the switch I didn't have the last two times I tried vaping. That, and the wonders of the Bowle might just do the trick!

As His_Highness said, you can't match the high from combustion without combustion, you get high also because of the toxins that immediately affect you after the hit. I find that after hitting a vape the high is delayed by some seconds, while combustion hits you immediately. That may be related to the toxins present during combustion.

I recognize many in this thread from the MiniVap thread including yourself and many of you have mentioned the MV when posting about the Bowle.

So if I may ask, yourself and any other MV owners, what distinguishes this from the MV, other than the heat-up time and Drinkware of course, that drew you to this vape? I know that Jorge Fernandez was directly involved with it's development, which in itself is a huge plus, but it just seems like the vape profiles are very close to each other that I question my purchasing this vape. Or is it just the whole Drinkware design concept coupled with an amazing medical grade vape?

mV has draw restriction, TB doesn't. mV especially teflon core, immediately after launch, was said to produce not much vapor while still medicating well. This one produces vapor without any doubt.

Malfunctioning pucks: it may be related to falls. Mine fell from the kitchen table just once and started to hotspot after that.
This is the only event I can link to the issue.
Hope to resolve with reset or with a new puck, but from now on I think I'll babysit my TB like I'm trying to do with my Tinymight and my ceramics/glass made vapes.

 

[Bad Dog]

Another pot! Why not? To help get me to sleep this improved Bowle I want to keep! ........... so freaking lovely

Is the high from a vape of this quality as good as clean bong hits? Is it better? (Wouldn't that be nice?)

For me smoking will always have more initial intensity, be a little rushier, feel a little more sloppy and loose, but it also has a steeper drop off, more burnout, harsher. You have to ask yourself is what your gaining worth what your giving up? For me the answer is yes but I'll always think of smoking as a old friend....... who's a bad influence and gets you into bar fights and other shenanigans. But if you mean no tobacco by clean bong hits I might not be the right guy to answer the question as I was a batch smoker and though I switched to vaporizing my weed 2 years ago I continued to smoke tobacco along side my vaping, only breaking free recently, last Monday was my month off anniversary. So right now I too am relearning what weed feels like yet again and I'm liking it The Bowle was my reward for quitting smoking and to baby step my way through a load, really taking my time but that's not to say it can't deliver fat rips at high temp and you can burn though a bowl pretty quick if you want.

For me it’s a way cleaner and crisper of a high ; like the first time I smoked hydro.... it was like WOAH ! What’s this?

And it wasn't all leafy and chlorophyl tasting lol got you like 10 times as high as the outdoor ditch weed you normally had!

 

[Smknbud]

@SixStringToker , @kimura , @MinnBobber and @justcametomind ......... appreciate the responses. I'm definitely a candidate for the Bowle it seems.

Edit: I’d like to add that I contacted Tafee again to find out whether accessories like the larger Drinkware and/or stem would be available for future purchase and they responded with a ‘YES’ just at the moment cannot commit to a time frame but it’s on their to-do-list. Good enough for me.

 

[cliffhanger1]

I have yet to see a report of it being at all difficult to clean. A big advantage of the heater-on-top design.

for me it were better if there can be buying some replacement stems to have not so often to clean. and i dont like aluminum. no matter it is nevertheless a very interesting vapo for me !!! I was still very irritated by the mug that I would never need. but you can't love every vapo, so i saved money. as I said, it looks like of a very good and nice vapo ! have fun at all

 

[Djsleepy]

If you are having hot spotting or quirky performance ensure the heater screen has not been pushed in....just turn your puck upside down with light and it is easy to tell. Mine was pushed in on one side and performing spotty.

 

[Steel28]

Waiting for end of March to pull the trigger. Need 400ml restock.

 

[Two Heads]

I switched to vaporizing my weed 2 years ago I continued to smoke tobacco along side my vaping, only breaking free recently, last Monday was my month off anniversary.

Congrats Bad Dog!

 

[Vapefanatic]

Not sure why everyone prefers 400ml? I don't own one but imo, it's easier to make a shorter stem longer. But not the other way round?

If I really want to, there should be ways to add an attachment to the mouthpiece, be it a whip or something else? But if I ever want it shorter, I can only cut it?

Of course, there is the issue of the cup capacity. But I thought most reviews I read, actually didn't care much for the cup? Many I read have not touched the cup since receiving it or simply do not like the idea of electronics+water.

So what's so bad about the 250ml? I might be getting the 250ml soon.

 

[Fogoff]

mV has draw restriction, TB doesn't.

This.
Aside from heat up time, form factors and obvious things.
The main difference with the MV is the airflow. the bowle has a lot of airflow.
The airflow is spot on, smooth but still turbulent af so you can inspire harder

 

[His_Highness]

Not sure why everyone prefers 400ml? I don't own one but imo, it's easier to make a shorter stem longer. But not the other way round?

If I really want to, there should be ways to add an attachment to the mouthpiece, be it a whip or something else? But if I ever want it shorter, I can only cut it?

Of course, there is the issue of the cup capacity. But I thought most reviews I read, actually didn't care much for the cup? Many I read have not touched the cup since receiving it or simply do not like the idea of electronics+water.

So what's so bad about the 250ml? I might be getting the 250ml soon.

My preference for the cup was based on my nightly alcohol consumption. I like a bunch of ice and 4 shots. Need the big cup.

Not sure what you mean by making a shorter stem longer....If you get the short stem and smaller cup you could use a long stem too but it would stick up more noticeably past the lip of the cup. If you get the long stem and bigger cup you couldn't use a short stem because it wouldn't stick up far enough to clear the lip of the larger cup. I definitely would steer clear of modifying a stem by cutting it.

I don't have anything against the small cup and smaller stem other than being too lazy to have to get up and mix a second drink. Maybe it's not laziness...maybe it's how much harder it is to walk after vaping and vodka

 

[staircase slight of hand]

So what's so bad about the 250ml? I might be getting the 250ml soon.

Well, it’s smaller, for one. If I want to put ice in the cup, and leave a bit of headspace so it doesn’t slosh out of the cup while toting it around the house, that’s going to leave me room for about 4oz of drink. I’m sure it would work great for a cocktail, but if I’m using the cup I generally want a bit more drink in it.

The other consideration for me is stem length, and longer is better for me when using it without the cup. Think of it like a J-hook, why would you want to hold it up by your chin if you had the option to hold it in a more relaxed, natural position? I’d honestly spring for a 1L version with a 10” stem if they made one, stealth be damned

 

[jbm]

So what's so bad about the 250ml? I might be getting the 250ml soon.

You can put less liquid in the large cup but you can't put more in the small one.

 

[Vapefanatic]

Good points i never thought of. Thanks a bunch!

 

[invertedisdead]

if you want to fire off a few quick tokes in quick succession, you probably won’t even attach the cup. But if you want to “sip” on it, and really use the on demand feature to stretch out a bowl, the cup works.

If I load a 2x2” whiskey size ice cube and some water and let it sit for a bit, it will get cold enough to feel the chill on the puck, IMO it does help cool the hits. Interestingly, it seems like using the vape does melt the ice faster too, but I need to use the cup some more to be sure.

The main reason I don’t use the cup more is because it has to come off to get to the charge port, and I tend to throw it back on the charger once it gets to 50% battery. If I vape two pots in a row during a session it’s usually down to 50% battery. I see why they put the charge port there though, you cant really spill anything on it with the cup on, as it covers the port and the sides; you can see in the deep recess for the screws in the bottom of the puck that it was pretty well designed to not get wet from the bottom too.

 

[BrianTL]

If I load a 2x2” whiskey size ice cube and some water and let it sit for a bit, it will get cold enough to feel the chill on the puck, IMO it does help cool the hits. Interestingly, it seems like using the vape does melt the ice faster too, but I need to use the cup some more to be sure.

I dont see how it wouldnt make the ice melt faster, I forget the scientific terms and such but heat energy transfers from the hot to cold, or rather the cold absorbs the heat energy? So the cup/liquid should be absorbing the heat from the puck, even if its slightly warming the liquid its going to melt the ice faster. but then the ice should be keeping the drink itself at a constant temp, theoretically in a perfect environment? Idk, theres a reason I'm not a scientist

I really wanna give this thing a whack but I might wait a long while before jumping in. Gotta see how it plays out and what they come out with. I think one of those insulated cups would have me sold after the bugs and stuff gets worked out...which I fully expect them to iron it out quickly

 

[RobbIt]

I'm gonna say they said no, or will, for the moment at least since they are having supply issues. I got back to them after they quickly answered my initial question on the availability of the 400 Ml unit ( no inventory till end March earliest in USA) about being able to purchase a large stem and Drinkware at a later time if I went ahead and purchased the 250 Ml unit now. No response back on that question for more than three days now. I'm guessing the lack of response means no.

@SixStringToker , @kimura , @MinnBobber and @justcametomind ......... appreciate the responses. I'm definitely a candidate for the Bowle it seems.

Edit: I’d like to add that I contacted Tafee again to find out whether accessories like the larger Drinkware and/or stem would be available for future purchase and they responded with a ‘YES’ just at the moment cannot commit to a time frame but it’s on their to-do-list. Good enough for me.

Thanks great info. I’m going to hang on until they resolve the many noted performance and supply issues. I made the mistake of being an early purchaser of the Dotleaf just a few months ago. I don’t want the hassle of being a beta again.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Thanks great info. I’m going to hang on until they resolve the many noted performance and supply issues. I made the mistake of being an early purchaser of the Dotleaf just a few months ago. I don’t want the hassle of being a beta again.

Sorry about your past experience, but I can assure you this is no beta! Bowle works well!

 

[johnnyCanuck]

Thanks great info. I’m going to hang on until they resolve the many noted performance and supply issues. I made the mistake of being an early purchaser of the Dotleaf just a few months ago. I don’t want the hassle of being a beta again.

Not sure if you’d call the Bowle a true beta unit. I believe Jerry and Troy had their preproduction units for about a year before retail rolled out

 

[RobbIt]

Not sure if you’d call the Bowle a true beta unit. I believe Jerry and Troy had their preproduction units for about a year before retail rolled out

Not sure if you’d call the Bowle a true beta unit. I believe Jerry and Troy had their preproduction units for about a year before retail rolled out

Good to know. Dotleaf didn’t think they were in beta phase either. Of course every company is different in their launch decisions. I guess the somewhat mixed reviews for Bowle leave me wondering.

 

[johnnyCanuck]

Yes. Tough call. Although from the little that I've read regarding Dotleaf as an ecig company... not well regarded. That alone, I would've maybe waited a bit longer before jumping the gun.

This thing... Price is STEEP but I managed to get in on the non cup price. That was enough to get me to pull the trigger.

 

[RobbIt]

Yes. Tough call. Although from the little that I've read regarding Dotleaf as an ecig company... not well regarded. That alone, I would've maybe waited a bit longer before jumping the gun.

This thing... Price is STEEP but I managed to get in on the non cup price. That was enough to get me to pull the trigger.

I understand. If there were discounts, I’d probably do (and have) the same thing.
PS my experience with my e-cig Dotmod has been good.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Good to know. Dotleaf didn’t think they were in beta phase either. Of course every company is different in their launch decisions. I guess the somewhat mixed reviews for Bowle leave me wondering.

These situations are really not the same at all, the companies are completely different, with vastly different experience in our industry... if you think the reviews in this thread are mixed, I would suggest re-reading, personally that is not my impression at all...

But yeah it is always a good idea to wait, being an early adopter always comes with some risk, this seems to be one of the least risky however, in my own experience!