Swamp Water / Golden Dragon a use for your abv/avb

Vitolo

Vaporist
Getting oils is as far as my expertise goes.
I would love to get some suitable acetalized cannabis! :)
I unfortunately wait for some made by some person more proficient than I am!
 
Vitolo,

lesvape

Queer in a high haze
I didn't really see this mentioned here, but would absinthe(something in the 150 proof range) be a viable alternative to rum or everclear?
 
lesvape,

Vitolo

Vaporist
No that is a "liquor".
You want straight alcohol.
Everclear is purest.
Rum is a weaker alternative (with some sugars).
Absynthe will leave behind sugars and a syrupy residue.
 
Vitolo,

lesvape

Queer in a high haze
Ah, well the issue is, in California the everclear is if I am not mistaken about the same proof as rum and absinthe. What would be the issue with the sugar and syrupy residue?
 
lesvape,

Vitolo

Vaporist
I suppose none at all.
I was thinking about the fact that I use my tinctures to vape also!
I drip them on lower grade buds, and then vape them...
:lol:
I lost track of the fact that we were talking edibles.. and yes.. that being said It would work...
BUT remember that the higher the alc. % the better.. and I think everclear at 95% alcohol (190 proof) is the highest.
 
Vitolo,

lesvape

Queer in a high haze
Well from what I am told Ever Clear in California is lower proof than what you get in most states(odd considering stuff like Sam Adams Utopia is legal here, but banned in 5 states that have higher proof Ever Clear) at around 78%, and I can get Absinthe in same range(or at least close to it), I thought why not? Not sure what would be so bad about vaping sugars? I just want something so I can take a shot off that would get me vaked, and drunk, even if that means 2-3 shots(to get fully vaked that is). Thanks.
 
lesvape,

AGBeer

Lost in Thought
I have heard stories of people using high proof rum where everclear isnt available. If you can get your hands on some 151 you should be good as well.
 
AGBeer,

lesvape

Queer in a high haze
Well I guess I just like the exotic idea of Absinthe, but I guess I will have to check BevMo and see what the highest proof alcohol I can get for the amount of ABV I have. Thanks.
 
lesvape,

smarc

Well-Known Member
I've read that these ABV tinctures can taste horrid, is mixing a couple droppers full in a drink out of the question? Will it dilute it too much and make the tincture weak?
 
smarc,

Vitolo

Vaporist
It does not matter if it is diluted and weak as long as you get it all down.
It does taste horrid.
I advise to use a warm or room temperature liquid.. cold will allow the possibility of losing some on the glass/cup/vessel... very sticky oils, that wont solidify if not "chilled".
 
Vitolo,

Lo

Combustion free since '09
lol.. Yeah and I've tried a bunch of ways to mask the taste, just have to drink more of a liquid that tastes nasty IMHO. I think it's better to down the stuff and then follow with a chaser to clear the taste. Grape juice = awesome to get rid of foul taste :)
 
Lo,

Beezleb

Well-Known Member
I take about a half a shot (and then its one of those half shot, shot glasses :rolleyes: ) with the other half of it filled with coke/soda that adds some fizz to it too it. Its fine for me though most wont touch it but I recommend using something with fizz and I like it cold, easier to go down. If you dont mind it warm the fizz is not so important.

I personally do not find it bad at all but really it depends on the quality of the abv overall I feel. Reminds of the old tv westerns, give me a shot in a dirty glass hehe. Not that its dirty but looks that way.
 
Beezleb,

Vitolo

Vaporist
Shot of the dragon warm....
Triple Shot of grapefruit juice cold!
Seems to speed it into me too.
 
Vitolo,

djonkoman

Well-Known Member
making a test batch now
filled a test tube with a few pinches of ABV and sambucca(38%), and soaking it in a flowerpot filled with warm/hot water(wich I will refill a few times tonight I think)
sambucca has a pretty strong flavor so with some luck the sambuccataste dominates, also the ABV I'm using isn't that dark and also doesn't taste that bad when combusting it
probably trying it tomorrow morning, see of it's worth it to make more for tomorrow evening or saturday evening

edit:
drank half of the testtube(2 hours ago or so), and it works pretty well :D
no regular vaping high, also not an edible high
taste was still good, there was a bit more bite to the sambucca I think, even more warm feeling
 
djonkoman,

djonkoman

Well-Known Member
I can report back that this stuff is awesome...
on the party last night(wich was in a club so no smoking/vaping and expensive drinks, so this was perfect to keep me going) multiple people asked me if I had taken X :lol:
 
djonkoman,

Beezleb

Well-Known Member
Nice. This is the first I have seen someone use sambucca. If you post how you did it I will add it to the first post if you like as I think others would find it helpful and will be easier for people to see that info later on if the thread continues to grow.

My next shot is in your sambucca honor!
 
Beezleb,

HighlyEducatedScholar

Student of Vapor
so i was thinking about making this soon since my abv collection is starting to build. however, i am worried about the taste of the end product since ill be using abv. if it doesn't taste good then ill be more reluctant to use it and kinda waste my abv. to counteract the taste of abv i was thinking of adding a drop of vanilla extract to my vegetable glycerin tincture that will start off as ~5 fl. oz. has anyone tried something along these lines to produce a better tasting end product? i still don't have much experience in edibles and concentrates yet so i'd appreciate anyone's :2c:

ps, i was definitely thinking about posting a topic about my process when i finally get around to it mid-december since i haven't of much on here about making tinctures that are Vegetable Glycerin based while also using a no-heat method.
 
HighlyEducatedScholar,

Vitolo

Vaporist
ABV has a strong taste that is difficult to isolate.
you can cover it... but it will remain below the surface.. same as putting perfume on a foul body.. the underlying essence remains.
I found that a half glass of grapefruit juice(no sugar) after swallowing an ABV dose was the only thing that immediatley cut the bitterness.
If you are going to cook with the tincture.. think about avoiding sweets.. and go for more savory (salty etc) flavors.. as ABV tincture with sweetness are not as easily compatable.
(I admit to "not being one to talk"... I eat some pretty bitter intense ABV mixes!)
 
Vitolo,

photokographer

Active Member
Two questions, as my green dragon is in the making (Half ounce of abv, I forget how much everclear, but it's essentially jam jar over half full of avb with everclear in it to the top, really dense)

1. How much alcohol can you evaporate off to increase potency

And 2. Is it possible to somehow vape green dragon :lol: I was vaked the other night and thinking if you dropped some of the liquid on a Cotten ball piece and put it in a log vape stem? Not sure if vaping alcohol is a good idea though...
 
photokographer,

Vitolo

Vaporist
I vape Iso alcohol tinctures daily but the alcohol must be completely gone first....
It does NOT work well with edible tincture from everclear.
Here is how I vape Iso tincture.

I leave it on a dish to evaporate..... when it is almost evaporated I use a qtip to gather the mess up... then I let the qtip dry overnight.
I pull the cotton off of it, and I stick the cotton in a Zap stem ( MZ... or PD or WDZ)
it vapes, and the cotton stays unscathed.

You can drip the tincture on a bud of mids, and let it dry.... and it will be improved a bit and can be vaped!
 
Vitolo,

photokographer

Active Member
How do you make your iso tincture? similar to the green dragon method in that you hot water bath it?

Hmm so my green dragon is non-vape able, as I'm assuming the Evan method with the q-tip will not work with it. That's alright, it'll still be fun :D

I'm making my green dragon the "2 month wait" style. Started on thanksgiving. Since it's with abv it should work, right? Or should I cook it?
 
photokographer,

Vitolo

Vaporist
I make my Iso tincture by 1st chopping stems and twigs as fine as I can.
I put them in a gallon contaciner with 91% Iso, and leave in the sun for a day.
I drain, and then I add weed, trim and budt (all ground) to the mix...
I heat thjis in the sun also, but in a black back, to eliminate light and attract more heat.
I leave this in suspension for a few days, and heat as much as I can, and shake.
I strain, and bottle.
For some people I add menthol crystals..
for some oil of wintergreen...
or I leave as is.
You do not massage it in... but rather get a cotton swab, and paint it on liberally... and each time it evaporates on the skin (fast) paint another coat.
Very effective.
 
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