Silver Surfer Vaporizer

[Meremoth]

That's what I've been trying to tell you, .

I received my VB mini wand last Thursday, been running it through some tests. It only took one use for me to remember why I use dual screens, it let more debris through than any of my other SSV wands, it was so bad I had floaties in my water pipes water, that never happens. So I took a 3/4" screen (EQ screen was too big), crimped a couple bends at the top of the screen, and made it into a perfect little dome screen. Works like a charm, .

Still think I prefer the SSV wand + EQ screen though. So much easier to adjust the screen and stir the flowers.

How dark can you get the ABV with the regular wand and EQ screen? Where's the best place to purchase them?

I wonder if the EQ screen will work as well with the spherical wand.

 

[Tweak]

How dark can you get the ABV with the regular wand and EQ screen?

I quite when I no longer like the taste, even if it is still producing vapor. Then make edibles with the ABV. Been contemplating getting a capsule machine, maybe try eating a capsule an hour before vaping and see how I feel. Throw in a mango for good measure,

Where's the best place to purchase them?

Wherever you prefer. I believe all of the Supported Retailers here carry them for the same price. I guess whoever wants to ship them the cheapest would make the difference, hah.

I wonder if the EQ screen will work as well with the spherical wand.

Not as well as the standard wands, but works none the less. I just like the standard because you can slide the EQ screen up and down the wand, making any size bowl you want and keeping it the same distance from the HC output hole. You can get your ABV pretty dark if you place it within 1mm of the HC.

SGG w/ 3/4" screen + EQ elbow. There would be more room if I used the standard 5/8" screen.

With the Standard wand, I can make a full size wand:

Or just a elbow pack:

 

[Meremoth]

I wonder if my problem is just the spherical wand and HC. Do they just suck?

Is the standard whip and HC just way better than the spherical?

I can never get my ABV as dark as I want it, and I have no control over it.

I think I'd be much better off with the standard wand and HC, and then your screen mod.

Should I just order straight from the SSV site? Apparently not all standard HC are the same? Apparently there's new style and old style HC's.

They make SSV's with a tension clip now? That seems better than the shims. My SSV is pretty much brand new, so they must have just started doing that very recently.

If I order the SSV standard whip and HC from a different distributor, they don't seem to specify whether or not the HC is old style or new style. Should I just assume all the HC's from distributors other than 7th floor are the old style HC's that are made for the shims?

 

[Tweak]

I wonder if my problem is just the spherical wand and HC. Do they just suck?

I really enjoyed my SGG, until it broke, . Great flavor and some nice clouds. Much easier to stir too, I'm always spilling some with my standard.

Is the standard whip and HC just way better than the spherical?

I think it comes down to the HC more than anything, not the whip type. I have three Standard HC, both my recent ones don't hold a candle to my first one I bought. I don't know if I just got lucky or what, but I can start getting vapor without even seeing the Ceramic Heater glow. No joke, I put my dial on like 1/3 power and can start getting clouds, if I have decent flowers.

The size of the inlet hole, where it lines up to on the heater, and the 90 degree bend all seam to make a big difference.

 

[Meremoth]

Maybe I just need to go ahead and order a standard whip and HC, and pray that I get a good one. I've heard not all the wands are the same either. Some have a better fit with the screens, apparently.

Is there anyway to order the new HC stands? The tension clip seems like it'd be better than the shims.

I'm also curious if all the third party distributors only have HC's made for shims. None of them seem to specify what HC's they have.

 

[Vitolo]

They work about the same... and either way you will have to lift the SSV one way or another so it is a "draw'. I demoed both ways so people that already had one part or another could save $.

I currently own 1 SSV. The black one that has been on for 3 years.
I have all 3 Heater/Wand setups though.
If you see me with other SSVs, those are new... borrowed from new SSV owners for photo shoot.

 

[Dreamerr]

Meremoth, I am confused why you want to get your abv so dark. Can you please explain what you aren't getting herbwise that it is such a huge concern Maybe if there is something you are looking for and not getting we can help. If it is just the color then...

Vito why are you telling stories you know you have a bunch of SSV's and ones you refuse to even show on here cause they are really kewl paint jobs...you didn't want people to be jealous after all.

 

[jamesuh]

Hi guys, I just bought my SSV today, but I've run into a huge problem: the wand doesn't fit the heating piece. Has this happened to anybody else? I've search all over, but I've never seen anybody report such a problem. If anybody could help, that would be great. Thanks!

 

[Dreamerr]

We need a picture james or just look at vito's above to see what you have. They may have sent you a miss match like a ground and a standard or some combination there of.

 

[jamesuh]

Edit: ok, I'm stupid! I did not know you had to buy a hands free accessory to have it hold in place. So never mind, I guess!

 

[Dreamerr]

Well at least you sorted it out james. It isn't a big deal to hold it cause your sessions won't last long i don't think? I have a ground glass but I wouldn't die if I had the standard.

 

[Meremoth]

Okay, so I have finally figured out my problem with the SSV.

Out of desperation, last night I detached my hose from my wand, packed it up, held the ssv in my hand, the wand in the other, and just hit it like that, on max temp.

Sounds crazy, right? It's pretty awesome actually. At first I thought it was going to burn my mouth and lips, so I tried half heat and it didn't, so I said "fuck it" and cranked dat bitch all the way up and ripped it, booyah grandma.

The difference? No more combustion and evenly vaped bud. With the mouthpiece and hose, no matter what I tried, it was only vaping one spot, which caused uneven vaping and combustion. Anytime I would look in my wand, there would be a spot way darker then the rest. Now it's even all over.

To test and see if it was mainly just the mouthpiece, I took it and inserted it straight into my wand, and it actually made a perfect seal, lol. When I hit it like that, I had the same problem when I used the entire whip.

I guess I should try the LSV wand and see how that goes.

Edit:

Also, I have a bunch of wand hash built up thick where I could just scrape it off. Looks like a good mixture of wand hash and ABV. Should I just scrape it out and vape it?

 

[Dreamerr]

Meremoth, it sounds like you just need more time learning the SSV. With the standard or the spherical you need to aim the heat. I am almost sure you can find a video either by vito or anyone else showing how to move the wand. You shouldn't need it on full heat. Full heat is a preference not a have to, to evenly burn the herb. Maybe you have to adjust your draw speed as well. Different temps different draw speed. Just some thoughts. I hope at least one might help you. Good luck.

 

[xxxscottyxxx]

Just wanted to say, What a great bunch of people there are on this forum, People are always very friendly and ready to help anybody out with their problem whatever their experience level with vaping may be, No elitist attitude or Pi*s taking just because somebody is new to the scene and asks a pretty basic question. Ive picked up loads of knowledge and tips on here and it really does show the good side of the net rather than some of the more childish forums ive visited so a very BIG thanks to everyone! cheers people and happy vaping!

 

[Dreamerr]

Most of us try hard...glad you have you around scotty. We were all new at some point and needed the same help so we pass it forward. I love this community and it is the only forum I come to.

 

[Fresh_Baked]

What the hell.. My standard wand and HC came today from 7th Floor. I just ordered that what like 2 days ago? I didn't overnight it or anything, just standard shipping. Awesome. I'm playing with it now and something I immediately noticed is that the standard wand makes more of a whistle sound when you draw with it.

After some adjusting, I'm really happy with it. I think I definitely prefer it over the SGG wand. Now it'll be interesting to see if I prefer the 7th floor wand or the vapor bros wand. Hopefully it's good at conserving herb like everyone says it is.

 

[NeeChee]

Wow 2 day shipping from 7th floor?! I bet thats a world record.I love the mini wand but find my self using the SSV wand more lately.It may just be me but it seems like the thicker glass gives tastier hits.

 

[Vitolo]

ALTHOUGH... even though you can aim it like the Standard...
The spherical connection is wide open.. as is the spherical HC... just like the Hands Free. (which mimics the DBV).. so aiming is really just a slight help with spherical.
Hand Held setup is the setup that depends on aiming.

 

[Fresh_Baked]

ALTHOUGH... even though you can aim it like the Standard...
The spherical connection is wide open.. as is the spherical HC... just like the Hands Free. (which mimics the DBV).. so aiming is really just a slight help with spherical.
Hand Held setup is the setup that depends on aiming.

Right; The open style of the SGG wand is also something I didn't like. I thought the wand itself was kind of bulky, it wasn't as clear how much I was filling the wand up, and also maybe this is just maybe, but I found that the gaping hole of the heater cover also lets a lot of heat escape the interior of the element, and so I always felt hot sitting in front of my desk.

I don't know, I just like the standard wand more. My vapor bros. wand is scheduled to come tomorrow though so we'll see how that is.

I've been weighing out my bowl loads and when I just fill up the wand to the level I normally do, and then weigh it, it's usually between .2-.4 grams. that's really not much at all. I don't see how you could cut down on that yet, but hopefully it can help me. I go through biblical amounts of bud these days. My tolerance is somewhere out by pluto.

 

[Fresh_Baked]

Wow 2 day shipping from 7th floor?! I bet thats a world record.I love the mini wand but find my self using the SSV wand more lately.It may just be me but it seems like the thicker glass gives tastier hits.

Yeah, it's weird because my SSV itself took extra long to get here. Like 3.5 weeks. I would have exploded if I got it in two days

 

[Fresh_Baked]

Just got my mini wand in the mail. I like it a lot. How much should I be filling it for the best hits, though? I've been filling it half way but I think that's too much.

EDIT: Nevermind, I've found that filling it about 1/3 full uses up about .1-.2ish of bud and still provides dense bong rips of milky vapor.

I had my doubts even though I got it and I kind of thought I was just going to stick with the SSV wand, but I really like this. It definitely saves me some bud and the hits are just as good.

 

[Djflipnautikz]

Hey Fellow SSVers. Been looking around and reading alot. You guys are awesome and led me to my first plug-in vape. I was looking for my first vape and was on my local CL and saw a guy selling one for $100. While researching i found my self on this website. I took the chance and bought it.

The guy said he "upgraded" to a volcano. I am still in the process of learning and have a few questions that i am hoping you guys can help....so here goes.

1. I bought the Oil Dab kit, what Temp or Hour are you using for this? And does anyone vape dry herbs when not using oil with this attachment still on?

2. I use the GG HC with the Wand from the Oil dab kit (with the bubble for reclaim) does that impact anyway my use?

3. I was using just the whip and at around 1 - 2 o'clock i was combusting. I didn't know why but i seem to have read somewhere that TOO LONG of a drag could cause it to combust. Is this so? or could it be how i pack my bowls? which lead to the next question....

4. I was wondering how to Correctly pack a bowl. I have seen various opinions. This seems to have a big affect on my use. I suck in air through the whip and pretty much fill up my bowl. then i pack it down VERY LIGHTLY but it gets down to about 1/3. It could def be packed more but i don't. If i DO NOT as a lot of people say, i don't get such dense hits. whats the preferred method?

5. and i think my final question...for now atleast lol, is when is it TOAST? I have a few pictures of my ABV. The first two shots are of a bowl i just finished (reason for long wind post). I took over 20 hits off .3 and i was stilling pulling vapor off it. But it was starting to look like burnt almost. So i would like to see your opinions. Also the 3rd shot is of old ABV. i see in the picture there is still some green, wonder if that was not done when i finished. Cant want to make some edibles....lol...

OLD ABV

and this is what i use with my beautiful SSV....

6-arm A/C with J hook

 

[Vitolo]

1. I bought the Oil Dab kit, what Temp or Hour are you using for this? And does anyone vape dry herbs when not using oil with this attachment still on?
Top of the dial... Max temp is best...
Personally I do not use same wand or whip, and do not use the same HC.
With the ball in place, it works, but the HC is much bigger and air flows so you would have to "learn" a new temp setting (a higher one)
2. I use the GG HC with the Wand from the Oil dab kit (with the bubble for reclaim) does that impact anyway my use?
It is good for use with dabs. Don't contaminate this wand by vaping weed in it, you will get a dirty reclaim~

3. I was using just the whip and at around 1 - 2 o'clock i was combusting. I didn't know why but i seem to have read somewhere that TOO LONG of a drag could cause it to combust. Is this so? or could it be how i pack my bowls? which lead to the next question....
(too SLOW of a drag. Slow = HOTTER, fast = cooler)

4. I was wondering how to Correctly pack a bowl. I have seen various opinions. This seems to have a big affect on my use. I suck in air through the whip and pretty much fill up my bowl. then i pack it down VERY LIGHTLY but it gets down to about 1/3. It could def be packed more but i don't. If i DO NOT as a lot of people say, i don't get such dense hits. whats the preferred method?
It must be loose.
Then you will lift during the stir to separate the herb and make it loose again. Air has to flow around all particles.

5. and i think my final question...for now atleast lol, is when is it TOAST? I have a few pictures of my ABV. The first two shots are of a bowl i just finished (reason for long wind post). I took over 20 hits off .3 and i was stilling pulling vapor off it. But it was starting to look like burnt almost. So i would like to see your opinions. Also the 3rd shot is of old ABV. i see in the picture there is still some green, wonder if that was not done when i finished. Cant want to make some edibles....lol...

It is toast when it is brown....
or
Tastes bad
or
providing no vapor
or
no longer medicating you.
Whichever comes first... or in any combination that makes sense to you....
The world is your Oyster~

 

[goatgobaahh]

Dj flip I love your A/c brother and I wish I bough an SSV after finding this forum (however I have a eq and found out about the SSV after I joined the forum). I will probably get a SSV soon , but with the sublimator and da vinci ascent Its falling down the shopping list.

I gotta say I like our glass setup, but try to get yourself a nice little bong (aim for under 24 inches tall). Then mix it; up use warm water, then cold water +ice, or roll like Vit and use no water(the flavor is intense on lowest temps and long draws) for better flavor.

the ABV in the pic1 looks way done you probably could've changed bowls like 8 hits ago? If your taking long drawns like me (I swim regularly in my training regiment so I take slow LONG pulls for dense thick vapor) I gotta vape out of lower temps on the SSV 11/12. I learned that the hard way when I first tried a SSV combusted at 1-2 o'clock just like you.

I personally prefer to vape till its golden brown like your old Abv. I save em for edibles, but if i'm ever out usually I leave SOME green in my abv (very little) and I can vape that at a high temp and get pretty blasted.

Great first post! I look forward to seeing you around in our wonderful community!!

Welcome!

 

[Djflipnautikz]

Thanks guys for the help. Yea the A/C is Really nice. A Bong is on the list. I have one that has a rubber grommet though. so i need an upgrade.

I use warm water every once in a while. it is awesome, def better than cold or ice IMO. but just room temp in my A/C is pretty nice. i just don't like the wand i have is GG and slips out quite easily. whats the max length for the hose? was thinking bout extending it to make it more comfortable for me in bed...

That is what i was wondering. i will change out the bowl earlier and use for edibles. Got a new SSV DUff Jar, which is pretty awesome so more reason to use it heh.

Maybe you can shoot me a few of your recipes for edibles, how much is the min i need you think of abv?

Hey thanks for all the great info guys, VIto i have read alot of your posts and has helped me a bunch. thanks alot, and thanks GGB for the info...


Happy vaping guys!!