Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless

[DieHard]

Was at a B2B trade show yesterday. Thanks @stickstones. I was given a rosin demo by the Oil Slick guys at their booth. They had a Remington Wet to Straight iron and a D-Nail press there for demo. The guy told me he gets better results from the Renmy. He used hops for the demo. Pressed between their Oil Slick Foil Backed Parchment. Foil side out to the heat. First time I had seen this done in person. The dried hops yielded a surprising amount of oil. He recommended dry material pressed into a puck with a pollen press for highest yield. Keep in mind, I haven't tried any of this. I did but a roll of that foil backed parch though.

 

[2clicker]

Was at a B2B trade show yesterday. Thanks @stickstones. I was given a rosin demo by the Oil Slick guys at their booth. They had a Remington Wet to Straight iron and a D-Nail press there for demo. The guy told me he gets better results from the Renmy. He used hops for the demo. Pressed between their Oil Slick Foil Backed Parchment. Foil side out to the heat. First time I had seen this done in person. The dried hops yielded a surprising amount of oil.

nice! did the hop oil look dabable? lol wonder what that is like... im a hop head to the marrow.

He recommended dry material pressed into a puck with a pollen press for highest yield.

so if your flowers are drier than recommended they suggest a pre-press eh? did they mention if grinding before the pre-press is necessary? i realize that it will possibly introduce more plant matter into the equation, but i cant help but think the rosin will flow out of it easier.

 

[Joel W.]

I love the soldering iron idea from J and some copper block with holes from B would be awesome to get a hold of...hint hint

I started a new thread for Copper Nickel rosin blocks/jaws, if I can help you or anyone here to get their squish on.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/custom-copper-nickel-vice-and-arbor-jaws-for-rosin-tech.19491/

Edit: I still can't seem to spell VISE correctly...

 

[DieHard]

nice! did the hop oil look dabable? lol wonder what that is like... im a hop head to the marrow.



so if your flowers are drier than recommended they suggest a pre-press eh? did they mention if grinding before the pre-press is necessary? i realize that it will possibly introduce more plant matter into the equation, but i cant help but think the rosin will flow out of it easier.

He told me that it tastes like an IPA if you dab it. Im not a drinker anymore so I didn't try. I'm not sure about the safety of dabbing Hops concentrate. ( @herbivore21 , any science on this? )But it looked good. He did not mention grinding at all, just to press it into a puck first. And that the drier the herb is, the more particulates you get.

 

[Vaked420]

He told me that it tastes like an IPA if you dab it. Im not a drinker anymore so I didn't try. I'm not sure about the safety of dabbing Hops concentrate. ( @herbivore21 , any science on this? )But it looked good. He did not mention grinding at all, just to press it into a puck first. And that the drier the herb is, the more particulates you get.

Sorry I haven't read through the whole thread but is that supposed to get you drunk?

 

[2clicker]

Sorry I haven't read through the whole thread but is that supposed to get you drunk?

i dont believe so. there isnt any alcohol present. i think he uses hops instead of herb for demos because its legal everywhere i guess..? or its cheaper that way? not sure. i do know that hops and herb are cousins so they are pretty damn similar. i just love hops and would love to dab that shit! i wouldnt expect a buzz of any sort. just like aroma therapy for me.

 

[farscaper]

Sorry I haven't read through the whole thread but is that supposed to get you drunk?

you have to ferment them before there will be any alcohol present... which is what gets you "drunk"... of course vaping alcohol is a terrible idea... dont do it.

i dont believe so. there isnt any alcohol present. i think he uses hops instead of herb for demos because its legal everywhere i guess..? or its cheaper that way? not sure. i do know that hops and herb are cousins so they are pretty damn similar. i just love hops and would love to dab that shit! i wouldnt expect a buzz of any sort. just like aroma therapy for me.

ive had some legal concentrate that was obviously laced up with terpenes. which led me down the path of wanting to press hopps and lavender since ive heard both can be pressed mechanically to produce rosin. dabbing a lavender and hopps terpene profile really was unusually medicinal. during thag time thats all I dabbed or vaped. it was quite helpful in staving off that jones feeling... but I wouldnt ever call it a "replacement"

both and together they produced an "up" buzz that was very clear headed but still felt natural. of course it was mixed with cbd, but im interested in pure rosin oils from each to try.

so hopps should be dry
and lavender should be fresh
hearsay of course.

its a learnin kinda day!

edit: grinding cannabis did not result well. alot of unwanted chlorophyll tast came along even at 200f and at 220 with unground flowers its a lovely golden. the ground stuff has a greenish hue and tastes like chlorophyll.

boo.

 

[Copacetic]

you have to ferment them before there will be any alcohol present... which is what gets you "drunk"... of course vaping alcohol is a terrible idea... dont do it.



ive had some legal concentrate that was obviously laced up with terpenes. which led me down the path of wanting to press hopps and lavender since ive heard both can be pressed mechanically to produce rosin. dabbing a lavender and hopps terpene profile really was unusually medicinal. during thag time thats all I dabbed or vaped. it was quite helpful in staving off that jones feeling... but I wouldnt ever call it a "replacement"

both and together they produced an "up" buzz that was very clear headed but still felt natural. of course it was mixed with cbd, but im interested in pure rosin oils from each to try.

so hopps should be dry
and lavender should be fresh
hearsay of course.

its a learnin kinda day!

edit: grinding cannabis did not result well. alot of unwanted chlorophyll tast came along even at 200f and at 220 with unground flowers its a lovely golden. the ground stuff has a greenish hue and tastes like chlorophyll.

boo.

Well, thanks for trying it out, I've been curious if a grind would be helpful or not.

 

[BoogerMan]

Was at a B2B trade show yesterday. Thanks @stickstones. I was given a rosin demo by the Oil Slick guys at their booth. They had a Remington Wet to Straight iron and a D-Nail press there for demo. The guy told me he gets better results from the Renmy. He used hops for the demo. Pressed between their Oil Slick Foil Backed Parchment. Foil side out to the heat. First time I had seen this done in person. The dried hops yielded a surprising amount of oil. He recommended dry material pressed into a puck with a pollen press for highest yield. Keep in mind, I haven't tried any of this. I did but a roll of that foil backed parch though.

Was the D-Nail press the large 15"x15" or the smaller 5"x5"?

I think I've heard more negative than positive things about the Dnail press. Hopefully it isn't a complete waste of money. Im going to be pretty bummed if a $50 vice/flat iron setup works better than a $335 press. Fucking fuck fuck

 

[2clicker]

edit: grinding cannabis did not result well. alot of unwanted chlorophyll tast came along even at 200f and at 220 with unground flowers its a lovely golden. the ground stuff has a greenish hue and tastes like chlorophyll.

boo.

i feel partly responsible for your loss. my condolences





back to the build. i cant decide on how to heat my plates now. i dont think a 30W heater is going to be fast enough for my needs so the flexible silicone heaters are out. i do like the SS strip heaters, but they are larger than im willing to work with for my specific vice. i would def revisit them if i were to make something larger.

so now im back to flat iron heaters or soldering iron heaters. when i used to mess with hakko irons i used to be able to find replacement heating elements pretty easily. attempting to find a 456 element is hell right now. where does one find replacement elements for soldering irons? heaters with two leads?

 

[DieHard]

Was the D-Nail press the large 15"x15" or the smaller 5"x5"?

I think I've heard more negative than positive things about the Dnail press. Hopefully it isn't a complete waste of money. Im going to be pretty bummed if a $50 vice/flat iron setup works better than a $335 press. Fucking fuck fuck

It was the smaller one. He said that for his personal pressings, he gets greater yields from the hair iron.

 

[farscaper]

i feel partly responsible for your loss. my condolences





back to the build. i cant decide on how to heat my plates now. i dont think a 30W heater is going to be fast enough for my needs so the flexible silicone heaters are out. i do like the SS strip heaters, but they are larger than im willing to work with for my specific vice. i would def revisit them if i were to make something larger.

so now im back to flat iron heaters or soldering iron heaters. when i used to mess with hakko irons i used to be able to find replacement heating elements pretty easily. attempting to find a 456 element is hell right now. where does one find replacement elements for soldering irons? heaters with two leads?

no worries. had to find out for sure for myself too so its all in science... or group therapy one of the two.

Are you here for the RCA group?
Rosin Compressionist Anonymous?

hi im farscaper and... I tainted my yield...


anyway, for the price of those ss heater plates each you could pick up a hair iron and gut it. for the price of the second ss heater you could buy a spare hair iron.

we now have fc heater plate options as well since @Joel W. will make them for us custom.

so very sweet to have options.

 

[BoogerMan]

It was the smaller one. He said that for his personal pressings, he gets greater yields from the hair iron.

Damn I'm thinking I wasted my money. Oh well. Thanks for the info!

I'll probably focus on making dry sift and then pressing that since the Dnail press should at least work okay to clean up some sift.

If it sucks at pressing bud after the modifications I'll be making, then I think I will go the vice/flat iron press for bud squishing!

 

[2clicker]

anyway, for the price of those ss heater plates each you could pick up a hair iron and gut it. for the price of the second ss heater you could buy a spare hair iron.

we now have fc heater plate options as well since @Joel W. will make them for us custom.

so very sweet to have options.

yeah i hear you on the strip heaters. i can get a nice deal on them so a pair of those is actually of similar cost to a flat iron. they are just too wide for how i plan to make these plates. these are going to be pretty small.

and yeah having Joel's services available is great. i will def be utilizing his expertise when the time comes for a larger/improved press.

 

[BoogerMan]

Yay @Joel W. to the rescue

He is going to make some 2"x2" cuni plates for the Dnail press to cut the surface area way down! This should hopefully fix the lower yields that people are getting

So much testing to come!

 

[CrazyDiamond]

I started a new thread for Copper Nickel rosin blocks/jaws, if I can help you or anyone here to get their squish on.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/custom-copper-nickel-vice-and-arbor-jaws-for-rosin-tech.19491/

Edit: I still can't seem to spell VISE correctly...

Just remember who asked first, hehe, jk. This is what I'm going with and an arbor press; and the soldering irons with rheostats on each to adjust temperature (maybe get stronger than 60w irons...we'll see). Keep my @Been Vapin setup as a backup/travel press

 

[Monsoon]

Not sure if it's been mentioned here before but I stumbled upon a good private Facebook group recently dedicated to Advanced Rosin Tech. Seems like most of the Hash Church regulars are there too, might be good to keep an eye on for cutting edge stuff too.

 

[NorVape]

Funny! Some friends and I were just talking about pressing hops!

 

[Vaked420]

Sorry I haven't read through the whole thread, but am interested in getting a dedicated iron to try this out. Is there a consensus on a best model or maybe a good one on the cheaper end to try out? And what are the yields like? I saw some people saying 15-20% but that seems a bit much. Obviously it depends on material but I usually get good to really good dank in Washington and would've expected like 10% return...so 15-20 would be phenomenal.

 

[2clicker]

so i have decided to go with THESE for my heaters. they are 1/4 X 3-1/2" SS cartridge heaters. 300 watts! i got them both for $20 shipped. so less than an flat iron, but not flat. im thinking that because my plates are so small that the need for an element to cover most of the surface of the plate isnt that important here. plus the price was right.

anyway, i should have all my materials on monday and will start construction!

 

[farscaper]

so i have decided to go with THESE for my heaters. they are 1/4 X 3-1/2" SS cartridge heaters. 300 watts! i got them both for $20 shipped. so less than an flat iron, but not flat. im thinking that because my plates are so small that the need for an element to cover most of the surface of the plate isnt that important here. plus the price was right.

anyway, i should have all my materials on monday and will start construction!

thats just what ive been looking for with enough watts to heat it right!

 

[2clicker]

thats just what ive been looking for with enough watts to heat it right!

im no electrician... can i run both of these from one power cord? or will each heater need a cord for itself?

 

[farscaper]

im no electrician... can i run both of these from one power cord? or will each heater need a cord for itself?

I just noticed that price you posted! as opposed to the listed price... may have flex that option myself.

they are running on 120 volts so provided whatever wire and pot or pid you choose can handle the amperage you should be fine.... I would oversize the power cable so as to not cause any voltage drop... amongst other flaming issues.

600w ÷ 120v = 5amps

just stay above those ratings for safety and you should be good.

im trying to decide if its cheaper to go with a pair of those 300w or just use multiple 50w ceramic heater cores.

ive used a 600watt heater head and it seemed unnecessary when you only need the lower end of its power ability... but... what is rated for 300 watts at the temps we are trying to achieve... will never see a full 300watts power to them so it may be safer in durability to up the price and wattage for longer life of the heater... not that ive ever burnt a cheap one out... but... Murphys law always says...

 

[Joel W.]

I got some oil slick wrap in today to try.

I had issues with the foil sticking to my jaws after the press and I can see oil embedded in the paper also.

It is a 50 ft roll for for $25 compared to my regular parchment in a 30 ft for $3

The top press was at 210f and the bottom was at 220f. I quit after that.

 

[farscaper]

I got some oil slick wrap in today to try.

I had issues with the foil sticking to my jaws after the press and I can see oil embedded in the paper also.

It is a 50 ft roll for for $25 compared to my regular parchment in a 30 ft for $3

The top press was at 210f and the bottom was at 220f. I quit after that.

is that oil pooled between the paper and foil on the bottom side of the top sheet?!