Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless

Cheebsy

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Is it me or does above site seem like rebranded chinese stuff? I mean knock off peaks? Opinions on a post card pls
It looks like some of it is rebranded. I see a portable concentrate device that looks identical to a cheap one I got from vapefiend that is also a rebranded Chinese vape.

I'm quite intrigued by the presses though, but I think I'll wait a bit longer for dabpress to restock the EU warehouse. It's good to hear that there is an EU manufacturer of presses, just with there was a UK one!
 

EmDeemo

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Its a fuck of a lot runnier, but its a different batch of flower. I'll see what its like tomorrow.

Im not noticing extra yield, just that the flow was quicker.

Im certainly not noticing any horrible leaf taste, or anything nasty, but the flower was very, very dry before it went in with the packs. I'll see what its like tomorrow after the rosin has aired a bit and then been in the fridge.
 

shredder

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And is the extra yield from 72% buds just water weight???

Possibly. Back when I started pressing with a hair straightener I did some experimenting with humidities. I found at a certain point you get a gooey mess. At not quite that bad you do increase yields but you get harsh vapor.

As far as smoothness, everything else being equal, My smoothest rosin comes from well cured top end buds stored with 62% humidity packs.

Here we really don't talk about the rosin quality, but it is a thing we should at least be aware of. Lots of talk of yields and types of hardware, and taste can be subjective, but quality is a thing.
 

EmDeemo

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I've got 62% packs too, but this is not good flower :) Sometimes ya gotta make do with what ya got :)

I can still do a side by side comparison tho, so I'll separate some out in a bit for putting in with 62% packs.
 

EmDeemo

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I've also had good luck with higher humidity presses.

Particularly for buds that try to butter up on the plates. Helps flow and increased yields can be had!
...not any worse in quality at all, but if pressed at lower humidity, it butters all around the puck and arrests the flow.

Hey, thanks for the input. Did you notice a difference in the quality of the rosin? This stuff is so much runnier, but the smell is still amazing, and it still tastes great.

I have noticed the paper looks a little like its had some moisture eat thru it but its new paper I've never used before so it could just be that its not as thickly covered in silicon as the stuff I normally use. The paper hasnt wrinkled or buckled like it should with decent amounts of moisture tho so it could just be the usual terpenes eating/soaking thru...?
 

EmDeemo

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it is more challenging to collect off your parchment and can be a bit more challenging to handle versus buttering on the plate.

Definitely finding this! But its shitty flower, and this type of stuff usually comes out runny and hard to collect.

Collection plates are freezer bound :)

If the paper isn’t soaked, and the puck is dry, cant we assume the moisture is in the rosin? It’s gotta go somewhere, and I don’t see steam billowing out of my press?

Yeah, that of course makes sense. I'm a bit confused as to what point you're making tho or what this points to. Not being argumentative, just being stupid and not understanding :) I'm still in here as a bit of learner so just checking im not missing whats being said :) I'm not in any way arguing against whats been said already in thread, just asking what the experiences are now someone posted something different. Just in case I've come across as tho i'm trying to prove you all wrong, definitely not the case :)

The puck is still sat in front of me and the flower doesnt feel as crumbly and dry as it did pre being put in with the packs. It feels empty tho, which is cool, none of the solid edges that feel like they've still got rosin content, doesnt feel like there is any point re-pressing.

But yeah, for sure, that extra 10% of humidity must have been in the rosin as well as the flower.
 
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invertedisdead

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Yeah, that of course makes sense. I'm a bit confused as to what point you're making tho or what this points to. Not being argumentative, just being stupid and not understanding :) I'm still in here as a bit of learner so just checking im not missing whats being said :) I'm not in any way arguing against whats been said already in thread, just asking what the experiences are now someone posted something different. Just in case I've come across as tho i'm trying to prove you all wrong, definitely not the case :)

The puck is still sat in front of me and the flower doesnt feel as crumbly and dry as it did pre being put in with the packs. It feels empty tho, which is cool, none of the solid edges that feel like they've still got rosin content, doesnt feel like there is any point re-pressing.

But yeah, for sure, that extra 10% of humidity must have been in the rosin as well as the flower.

I'm asking it as a question, I'm not certain of the answer, I'm just assuming that with no signs of moisture evacuating when pressing flower rosin, where could it go but in the rosin? That's one of the things I find interesting/quirky about flower rosin is the different RH effects, when hash rosin in comparison has nearly all of the plant material (and thus water) removed.

I'm just thinking, if one were to press an ounce of flower, there's quite a bit of water in there that is absent after pressing: with that much water being removed in a short amount of time it just seems like there would be condensation drops somewhere.

Normally oil and water don't mix, but I know from pressing fresh herb that is wet enough to cause the rosin to sizzle on the nail that the moisture in that dab isn't separating like oil and water normally do, it was emulsified, or something.
 

EmDeemo

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Gotcha! Thanks for the reply! Really appreciated. I understand now.

Just one more reason to get into pre processing the flower first, like you say, getting rid of all that plant material. I'll get there eventually :)

This stuff wasnt very well trimmed either, so I was expecting way more horrible leaf taste. Not apparent so far, but I'll keep this separate from the rest and see if it ends up noticeably worse than the usual quality stuff I press. More moisture in the leaves really led me to think it would be more horrible.

EDIT: FWIW... The resultant rosin isnt leaving more gunk in the dish. It just occured to me that more moisture of a dodgy level might help leach out more soluble crap (or something, for want of a better phrase), but clean up still seems the same.

EDIT 2: Unlike most rosin I press, this stuff hasnt changed at all over night. Its still slimy, and still a pain to scrape up :)
 
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shredder

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I'm asking it as a question, I'm not certain of the answer, I'm just assuming that with no signs of moisture evacuating when pressing flower rosin, where could it go but in the rosin? That's one of the things I find interesting/quirky about flower rosin is the different RH effects, when hash rosin in comparison has nearly all of the plant material (and thus water) removed.

I'm just thinking, if one were to press an ounce of flower, there's quite a bit of water in there that is absent after pressing: with that much water being removed in a short amount of time it just seems like there would be condensation drops somewhere.

Normally oil and water don't mix, but I know from pressing fresh herb that is wet enough to cause the rosin to sizzle on the nail that the moisture in that dab isn't separating like oil and water normally do, it was emulsified, or something.

We also have to remember all of the posters aren't using the same gear, and I think we can agree that the gear makes a huge difference. Subtle differences probably aren't as noticeable on a pen than they would be on a sapphire dish. So it makes comparisons hard. And then there's the presses/plates themselves.

Vaping temperatures make a difference too. I stay fairly low at 480F to 500F on my sic halo. A good friend uses an old dirty quartz bucket at 700F. All I taste at that temp is hot, lol. But he swears he detects different flavors.

What im saying is we have to keep all this in mind before we claim right or wrong.
 

arb

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Taste,smooth and color seem subjective as @shredder says for sure.
Potency and how dirty it leaves my dishes(titanium buckets on sai and Sequoia atomizers)is my end deciding factor with taste being high up there also.
I swear I like them buckets way better than quartz bangers or the quartz oil set up for the ssv and dbv.
🙃
 

EmDeemo

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If anyone reads this and considers the 72%... it was so runny that without any paper folding I probably could have guided the rosin into a jar.

Do that :) This is a pain to get up off the paper :)

EDIT: Its like this stuff I posted in Lazy's thread. Same consistency. Shittier paper :)

 
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FlyingLow

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Your technique needs to evolve, collection is a different animal with higher humidity- I have done a lot around 68-70, and I have a few tips:

1- keep a flat piece of metal in your freezer, not your parchment (it will/can get soggy if put in the freezer). Put your parchment on the cold metal, and begin collection.

2- mentioned above, ditch that tool, it is the wrong utensil for the job. I prefer one like this with a big flat tip to help squeegee everything off.


3- change your technique. Move FAST, touch and pull quickly.
 
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