OKcomputer said:Thanks Rick! I just edited my post with one more question, didn't see that you replied until after I edited.
Will the brass tip be a really loose fit in the PD? The stems that came with my PD are already a pretty loose fit, much looser than I expected upon ordering the PD.
vapormonkey said:Tom the INVENTOR. I always loved that one...
Yes, of course, Tom invented the log vape like Buick invented the assembly line. I know Tom was liked by many users here, but he always rubbed me the wrong way. I think his pictures he left in the last post were very telling. Tom's gotta feel confident, like #1 or the marbles are packing up and going home.
jeffp said:Pcpvapors said:Woah woah woah, "rip-off copy cat PD builders"? You mean individual companies who put there own spin on the Eterra? I understand your upset about Tom closing doors but there's no need to slander other well respected companies who are in full support of this forum.
I know what you're saying but there's absolute specific PD copy cats like the "better days" and the "woodeze" - I'm not referring to anything innovative and original at all.
OKcomputer said:Anyone have experience with Ed's TNT tubes? He has a ton of different exotic woods available. I wonder how they mate w/ the PD in terms of fit?
And Cleadome's stems work also on the old Zaps... and with the sleeve they fit the RockZaps perfectly.charliedontsurf said:On a more positive note...
Gunky said:jeffp said:Pcpvapors said:Woah woah woah, "rip-off copy cat PD builders"? You mean individual companies who put there own spin on the Eterra? I understand your upset about Tom closing doors but there's no need to slander other well respected companies who are in full support of this forum.
I know what you're saying but there's absolute specific PD copy cats like the "better days" and the "woodeze" - I'm not referring to anything innovative and original at all.
I don't see why Woodeez should be considered a copycat if Purple Days isn't. Tom copied from Rick who copied from the Eterra. Ain't nobody here but us copycats!
Ain't life grand? Can't get high. At least I've got chilly water in my bubbler on the porch.PanicFreak said:vapormonkey said:Tom the INVENTOR. I always loved that one...
Yes, of course, Tom invented the log vape like Buick invented the assembly line. I know Tom was liked by many users here, but he always rubbed me the wrong way. I think his pictures he left in the last post were very telling. Tom's gotta feel confident, like #1 or the marbles are packing up and going home.
. . tom the inventor. that is buddy.. Great comparison btw, makes total sense and its funny at the same time.. I just bought a pd this summer, works great and all but who knows that fate of it now...
Rick said:IAmKrazy2
Your description of past events is close enough but your calling me Ric brings back specific fond memories. You use that spelling because of your Dad as I recall? It is the Norwegian spelling of the name. When you first started doing it, I objected...."my name is spelled Rick!". You explained why and how it was automatic to you and I understood and it was good.
That spelling of my name was also used by Tom when he knew I did not like it, and used for one reason only, to treat me in a special way.
Thanks IAm for the short history. Most all of us do some copying of some kind. That is how it works. Try to make it better just playing around. Then get serious.
I will also say the way Tom left FC is the same way he left Pat and me after a very friendly many month Email exchange between us. Some Myrtlewood here, some Zaps there. Seemingly close, then the bridge was burned. Then PD came out.
Everything happens as it should. Hard to figure at times. What is, is.
Well if i some show company sold me tickets for the next 3 years of show.. and they decided to pack and go.. That is kind of scam...Vitolo said:Some "shows' are built in Theaters or Arenas, with Concrete and Steel tying them to the community.
Some "shows" are transient by nature, and when it is time to move on, can leave the community easily.
http://i43.tinypic.com/58l77.jpg
The community need not feel insult or confusion over this fact.
It is just the way things are.
Abysmal Vapor said:Well if i some show company sold me tickets for the next 3 years of show.. and they decided to pack and go.. That is kind of scam...Vitolo said:Some "shows' are built in Theaters or Arenas, with Concrete and Steel tying them to the community.
Some "shows" are transient by nature, and when it is time to move on, can leave the community easily.
http://i43.tinypic.com/58l77.jpg
The community need not feel insult or confusion over this fact.
It is just the way things are.
Maybe. It was also a case of good luck/timing that this forum (the only one allowing free advertising for commercial posters) was kept up and going for about six months before the first member joined and made a post, and that Tom was directed here and allowed to post by vtac. Most of the good will for Tom and the PD was established early on and the ball just kept rolling like a snowball gaining size as it rolls. If vtac hadn't started the forum, stuck with it when it seemed like a lost cause, and allowed Tom to post, the PD's sales would have been a drop in the bucket in comparison.OKcomputer said:The whole thing reads like a master class in grassroots marketing, no?
You do you realize what changes that would require, don't you? The cost of expanding the business to reach that level would be huge. You'd need a much bigger production facility, and employees would have to be added, with all the additional expenses involved. Maintaining consistent quality, with multiple workers (not to mention the inevitable employee turnover) involved in the build process, would be much more of a problem. 7th Floor is a great example of what can happen to QC and customer service when a small company grows too much too fast without making the right efforts on the service end.There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that if 1) MJ was legal, and 2) T&P eventually started mass-marketing and mass-producing PDs, T&P would make millions.
And what should we do, after taking a look? There's enough fodder here, involving this product, thread, and person, for a good Master's thesis in either business or psychology, but we can't make people read through thousands, or even hundreds of posts, or tell them what conclusions they should draw from what they do read.Nebulous said:I think Fuck Combustion should take a look at how a vape's reputation is kind of copy and pasted through the thread as more people come and post positive comments after reading previous peoples' opinions.