Discontinued Purple-Days Vaporizer

[jklasd]

...and no warranty

Haha not to rub it in bro....but soon shall come the day where I say I told ya so

BTW did you read every single page of this thread? if you did...then congrats. Most people just fall face first into page 100-sumthin

i did, but when it was around 80ish. not quite the thread it is now. there should be a version 2, IMO.

 

[max]

...and no warranty

Haha not to rub it in bro....but soon shall come the day where I say I told ya so

BTW did you read every single page of this thread? if you did...then congrats. Most people just fall face first into page 100-sumthin

So you're saying the PD is in the same catagory as a cheap Chinese box or Vapir, as in likely to break down? C'mon, you know better. No temp control, no display, a long life ceramic heater, constructed so you can run over it with a truck or drown it....what's to go wrong, compared to other electric designs? It wouldn't bother me a bit to buy a used PD.

 

[highendvapes]

...and no warranty

Haha not to rub it in bro....but soon shall come the day where I say I told ya so

BTW did you read every single page of this thread? if you did...then congrats. Most people just fall face first into page 100-sumthin

So you're saying the PD is in the same catagory as a cheap Chinese box or Vapir, as in likely to break down? C'mon, you know better. No temp control, no display, a long life ceramic heater, constructed so you can run over it with a truck or drown it....what's to go wrong, compared to other electric designs? It wouldn't bother me a bit to buy a used PD.

My points exactly. It shouldnt and most likely will not break. If it does, than I guess whoa is me, but really has anyone had problems with their units? Besides like I said eariler, I'm not scared.

 

[lwien]

Like anything else, they DO and CAN break. My first PD just quit working the third day I had it and the second one ran too hot. Had to send both of them back, and these were NOT transformer issues. One was an out of spec resistor and the other was a bad internal connection to the plug.

For me, I would never buy anything without a warranty, but hey, I guess it depends on how ya like to gamble.

Tom made his "no warranty" policy regarding ebay to discourage those types of sales and I feel that there is value in having that warranty, and apparently, so does Tom.

BTW, the way that he handled my two issues above was handled in the BEST way possible. Couldn't have asked for better service.

 

[Purple-Days]

They are kidding around, and sometimes it's hard to tell, with written words.

"what's to go wrong..." Well, we have had a couple of power jacks 'go bad'... but they can usually be repaired. Oh yeah, an out of spec resistor too.

Hey, anybody is free to buy or sell anything on E-Bay, including PDs and Beeny Babies. But unless you are buying from the mfg. it is 'used' goods. Flea market, yard sale, trunk of a car... used is used. At least in those last three examples you can kick the tires, E-Bay seems to be pig-in-a-poke to me.

 

[highendvapes]

They are kidding around, and sometimes it's hard to tell, with written words.

"what's to go wrong..." Well, we have had a couple of power jacks 'go bad'... but they can usually be repaired. Oh yeah, an out of spec resistor too.

Hey, anybody is free to buy or sell anything on E-Bay, including PDs and Beeny Babies. But unless you are buying from the mfg. it is 'used' goods. Flea market, yard sale, trunk of a car... used is used. At least in those last three examples you can kick the tires, E-Bay seems to be pig-in-a-poke to me.

I couldnt agree more, and really wish that i could kick the tires so to speak. But really whats the most that would have to be replaced within one? The resistor? I'm doubting that there is even capaticors in it. Am I correct in myassumption? I'm really good with most trades having earned my living as a contractor for over 20 years now. Carpentry is my speciality, but I understand and have a working knowledge of damn near everything. I'm the kind that cant stand to pay someone to do something that I can do myself. Sometimes it involves a bit of research, but most anything can be fixed. If you cant fix it, f**k it!!!!!

Something I've noticed over the years..... if it has a short warrenty ie 90 days or so, it WILL break. If it has a great warrenty ie lifetme or years or whathave you, its usallly a well made product and WILL last.

Yes its a gamble to purchase sight unseen, but I really wanted it, and accept the fact that if something goes wrong, its on me to either fix it or pay for repairs. { Tom, you do acccept paying cusomers for repairs out of warrenty do you not? Or at least be willing to ship a new resistor if need be?} I need to use for medicinal purposes, have tried lots of different vapes and think that this is the one that may best suit my needs. I've thrown away money on crap vapes that havent gotten more than 2 or 3 uses before, but dont think that this vape will fall into that catagory.

So all that being said, I'm sitting here waiting impatiently for the mail to arrive so I can see this wonderful unit in person. Trust me, if it dosent work, I wont be on here crying about it. Maybe asking advice on how to repair it, but I'm a big boy, and can live with my misakes when I make them.

Oh yeah to the Mods of this forum, it rocks!!!!!!! Wish I would have found it when I began my self evaluation of vaporizers years ago. It would have saved lots of cash from going to crap. I've tried ALOT of vapes over the years; they are just coming of age now.

 

[max]

Tom, you do acccept paying cusomers for repairs out of warrenty do you not? Or at least be willing to ship a new resistor if need be?

Can't speak for Tom, but I feel sure his repair charges would be reasonable. As for DIY repair, this vape really isn't suited to that. Not saying it can't be done, but you'd be better off sending it in for repair IMO.

Oh yeah to the Mods of this forum, it rocks!!!!!!! Wish I would have found it when I began my self evaluation of vaporizers years ago.

Compliments are always appreciated, but it's the members that make the forum. We just try to make it a comfy place to post and knowledgeable people seem to find their way here. The forum didn't really get rolling until about March of '08, so it's still kind of in its infancy.

 

[kalinga]

But really whats the most that would have to be replaced within one? The resistor? I'm doubting that there is even capaticors in it. Am I correct in myassumption?

Something I've noticed over the years..... if it has a short warrenty ie 90 days or so, it WILL break. If it has a great warrenty ie lifetme or years or whathave you, its usallly a well made product and WILL last.

At the upper chamber, it's just the resistor. No capacitors. The PD is divided into two chambers. Upper and lower. There's a solid inner wall with 2 holes dividing both chambers. One hole in the middle and another hole on the edge. The upper chamber contains the wired resistor and heat exchanger. The heat exchanger will slide out if the spring clip is removed. No trace of ash or burnt crumbs when I opened the top chamber. I was getting neurotic about all the herbs that have fallen inside my PD. Imagining there's some stubborn crumbs stuck somewhere inside. I was wrong and Tom was right. Hope that didn't void my warranty.

The forum didn't really get rolling until about March of '08, so it's still kind of in its infancy.

Max, how did the forum start? Who was behind its creation? How did you guys come up with the name?

 

[IAmKrazy2]

Got my PD today. It was a good day, the inspection on my first house went well, and aside from replacing the furnace all the immediate work and improvements I can do myself. I'm waiting for an appraisal to make it all final. After I got back to the apartment, I checked the mailbox with no luck. But about two hours later I looked again, and it had arrived.

Very nice detail in packaging. The PD logo's in marker. Also drawn on the tote bag it looks. Used buzz butter right away.

The transition from constant extreme whips and especially the LB short stem seemed to bring me right into the PD with no learning curve. I can easily get 4 decent tokes, or 3 huge ones. It fits right into my 18mm glass downstem, which gets my narrow at the bottom. Great surprise. Kind of awkward to hold, but nice. Love that I could vape 20 bowls a day and still only be at about 3.5g 1/8oz in a week (was my quick math right)?

I have gone through around 15 stems today I would guess, but that will be rare. I am not working, and celebrating a new machine and a new house sort of. I could easily see 6 or 8 stems on work days and 15 on days off when not especially busy. Much more conservative then the E elbow and a shitload more conservative then combustion. Exactly how much more efficient then the E I will better be able to gauge after a week or two.

I have packed some bowls very tight with decent success also. Hits like a champ. Love the vape on demand. A modified longer stem would be nice, as an alternative to a whip. I still haven't tried a whip. Ok, i want another stem, maybe 5 more before bed at least.

 

[JohnnyVape]

Hello Tom, are there any cherries in stock ?, im looking to buy in a week or so if poss.

 

[Purple-Days]

I was gone all day yesterday. I've never really trusted Doctors, 'Here are some pills, they should work...". But till yesterday, I had never caught one in an outright LIE. Well I did. And it was a lie for profit. :/

IAmKrazy2, welcome to the family, glad you are enjoying. The logo on the cover sheet and the bags are rubber stamps. We have used them since the beginning. I drew the logo in PhotoFilter (january 1, 2008). With the stamps we can use plain B&W copies. Color printers suck and sure don't seem economical or environmentally friendly.

Kalinga, no worries about warranty, but PLEASE, 'don't try this at home' as they say. The resistor is a pretty tight fit in the central heat exchanger tube and you may not get the heat exchanger back into place, or may break the resistor trying to force it (we have seen this). I don't put them together that way and they aren't intended to be taken apart and re-assembled that way. But... since you managed OK.

Good description of the upper parts of the unit, and the bottom chamber is very simple too. The wires go down through the two channels (insulated by the wood) then wrap around two stainless screws, then on to the power jack. No other electrical components. Resistor, wire, power jack, and solder, that's it, all RoHS and Lead-Free of course.

highendvapes, if you have any questions or need anything let us know. We aren't trying to inhibit someone from selling or buying a used PD, but supply and demand were unbalanced, and scalpers started to move in. We just had to put a stop to scalping. Voiding their tickets, by voiding their warranty, seemed the only way. Seems it worked too, I totally pissed off one scalper.

HighEnd says, "Carpentry is my speciality, but I understand and have a working knowledge of damn near everything." Most Carpenters do...

JohnnyVape, we stock all the components, but demand is greater than our ability to supply. Each unit takes about four hours to complete. I am never 'caught up' so there is always a bit of a que. I see you are outside North America, so write to Pammy and ask about lead times. I just work here, haha.

 

[highendvapes]

I understand the non warrenty issue with the scalpers. Makes perfect sence if you want to keep your product in the affordable range. I see the waiting list as proof of demand. Demand is high, that is good and I really like the fact that you dont want others to make profit off of your labor considering that these arent MASS produced. Keeps that family owend feeling!!!


Got my USED pd yesterday, warmed it up, and LOVE it. The wood was unoiled when I received it, so once I was nicley vaked I oiled it up and brought out the deep wood grain that the tea tree has. Sweet.
It WAS beautiful. Till my wifes cat decided to put it through its first duribility test here and knocked it off the counter. Now its got a gouge 1/4" deep running down the face of it. THAT woulndt have been covered under warrenty would it ? I'll either sand it out, or just leave it for character.
I Love the fact that it is as durable as it is. I'm hard on everything. My friends say that I should be a gear tester for scuba and camping gear.
It hits smooth, tastes great, and definatly leaves the product nicely unburnt. I can see where this will fit in so nicely with my lifestyle. Take a few, do some things in the shop, go back too it. No warm up. LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!

 

[max]

Max, how did the forum start? Who was behind its creation? How did you guys come up with the name?

It's vtac's creation. See the 'Silver Surfer Vaporizer' thread for the beginning. 1st post 10/26/07. It took over 3 months before stickstones arrived as the 1st member. A lot of people would have said 'screw it' and closed the forum down after a month or two. Patience pays off sometimes. A year ago Tom was dusting off his PD inventory, waiting on orders. The only dust there now is all the sawdust from constant vape making.

Got my USED pd yesterday, warmed it up, and LOVE it. The wood was unoiled when I received it, so once I was nicley vaked I oiled it up and brought out the deep wood grain that the tea tree has. Sweet.
It WAS beautiful. Till my wifes cat decided to put it through its first duribility test here and knocked it off the counter.

Glad you like it, highend. Tom has very few dissatisfied PD users, despite the hype this huge thread has helped to create. I'd leave the dent for character (my 15 month old unit has some character too), maybe just smooth out any edges.

 

[jeffp]

I was gone all day yesterday. I've never really trusted Doctors, 'Here are some pills, they should work...". But till yesterday, I had never caught one in an outright LIE. Well I did. And it was a lie for profit. :/

IAmKrazy2, welcome to the family, glad you are enjoying. The logo on the cover sheet and the bags are rubber stamps. We have used them since the beginning. I drew the logo in PhotoFilter (january 1, 2008). With the stamps we can use plain B&W copies. Color printers suck and sure don't seem economical or environmentally friendly.

Kalinga, no worries about warranty, but PLEASE, 'don't try this at home' as they say. The resistor is a pretty tight fit in the central heat exchanger tube and you may not get the heat exchanger back into place, or may break the resistor trying to force it (we have seen this). I don't put them together that way and they aren't intended to be taken apart and re-assembled that way. But... since you managed OK.

Good description of the upper parts of the unit, and the bottom chamber is very simple too. The wires go down through the two channels (insulated by the wood) then wrap around two stainless screws, then on to the power jack. No other electrical components. Resistor, wire, power jack, and solder, that's it, all RoHS and Lead-Free of course.

highendvapes, if you have any questions or need anything let us know. We aren't trying to inhibit someone from selling or buying a used PD, but supply and demand were unbalanced, and scalpers started to move in. We just had to put a stop to scalping. Voiding their tickets, by voiding their warranty, seemed the only way. Seems it worked too, I totally pissed off one scalper.

HighEnd says, "Carpentry is my speciality, but I understand and have a working knowledge of damn near everything." Most Carpenters do...

JohnnyVape, we stock all the components, but demand is greater than our ability to supply. Each unit takes about four hours to complete. I am never 'caught up' so there is always a bit of a que. I see you are outside North America, so write to Pammy and ask about lead times. I just work here, haha.

It's not that I distrust doctors, I don't think that they're inherently dishonest, I just think that medicine is basically guess work with lab coats.
Anyway I'm glad to be back in the realm of vaporizing.
Almost six weeks off the hobby, I truly enjoyed and savored every aspect of the ritual last night - the drying, grinding, the nice herbal flavor and the relaxation.
I might give my PD a fresh buttering for good measure today....

 

[DevoTheStrange]

I think docters in this country would rather just give someone a pill that might work than actually giving than something that actually works. I think its amazing that noone really cares that your more likely too die from a pill overdose (or worse, accidently mix the wrong ones and have a tragic end) than you are from MJ... anywho.
I asked a question in the wrong forum so I am going too put it here... How does the new tube design for the PD fit in 14.5 GoG pieces? still the same fit?

 

[jklasd]

though i haven't used them, i think it would just fall a bit deeper into it, then the older ones, but a good question, id like to know the actual answer myself.

 

[DevoTheStrange]

if anyone has the new tubes, and wouldnt mind answering the above question... if at all possible, who ever answers, can you also include pictures of old tubes and new tubes and how each one fits respectively into a 14.5 GoG (got a week or so before I get my PD, hopefully) and am curious if new tubes will fit in my bong. I am guessing they will, just will be a different fit

 

[max]

How does the new tube design for the PD fit in 14.5 GoG pieces? still the same fit?

The difference between the new and old isn't even a design change, just a minor tweak. The difference is minuscule (my word for the day ). The outer diameter of the tube, where it would fit against glass, has not been changed.

 

[Purple-Days]

Still using 1/2" #5 PP rod. Just the very end is shaped a bit different. But the same diameter and material as always.

Maaan, 6 weeks, too long. Glad you are back in clouds, Jeff.

Yep, lousy Doctors or uncaring Doctors or overworked Doctors... But this was different, a scam. And it was a real MD, not some quack. An eye Doctor who told Pammy about three years ago that she had high pressure (near glaucoma) and had cataracts and would be needing surgery. So a few years of worry later we have switched eye specialists. Now she has normal eye pressure and NO sign of cataracts. Sure the pressure could have come down for lots of reasons, or even been read incorrectly (the first time). But cataracts don't vanish, I have asked... This jerk just wanted to try out the new surgery clinic (yes there was a new surgery clinic in his town). And since most folks have insurance and will gladly be lead by any Doctor advised procedure... What a load. So Pammy got a great report card yesterday, and even a new set of glasses on the way. A good day !

 

[Costanza]

So my PD went cold on me a few weeks ago. And since then I've been struggling to match its efficiency with my SSV. :/
I'm sure its the plug, as the pd worked fine up until then and I'm very careful with it.
I would just like to know if this adapter would work:
http://www.amazon.com/Jensen-JEN500-500MAH-Universal-Adapter/dp/B000BWYTA4

It would be a lot more simple for me to get (at my Walmart).
Just awaiting the word.

 

[stickstones]

I just found out the other day that when you purchase drugs from your doctor he can bill the insurance company up to 300% of the purchase price, so he pockets two times what you paid for it. The insurance companies pay this without question.

No wonder they want to prescribe drugs.

 

[highendvapes]

Tom,
What is the max rating for this resistor? What would happen if I run a 19 V lead to it? Hotter temp, fried pd, or nothing? I just cant help but wonder these types of things.
On another note, 29 hours into my new used pd and I cant help but smile. Its such a nice simple vape, great at what it does. I'm really surprized at the amount of vapor in just a tiny pinch. After gawd, I dont know, maybe 60 bowls I put the duff from the PD and got a ton of vapor out of my extreme from it. I do run the temp a bit on the high side on it, but really the amount still left amazed me. I wonder if I'm hitting the pd inefficiently and leaving alot of what I seek from the material. I get good amounts of vapor at times, and the duff is still very green but recycled into the Extreme made for ALOT more vapor.
I do so wonder if cranking up the voltage would increase the heat. I'm sure you've played with your toy, what have you found?
Anyhow, great design on your device. Kudos.

 

[highendvapes]

Oh yeah and glad to hear that Pammy avoided unnecessary surgery. That kinda crap scares the hell out of me. 2nd 3rd even 4th opionions are worth it when it comes to ANYTHING medical that isnt an emergency.

 

[Rebus Canebus]

I just found out the other day that when you purchase drugs from your doctor he can bill the insurance company up to 300% of the purchase price, so he pockets two times what you paid for it. The insurance companies pay this without question.

No wonder they want to prescribe drugs.

Not sure where you heard that. Your doctor can bill anything he wants. The problem is the insurance companies usually reimburse you based on a set schedule. Sometimes the reimbursement doesn't even cover the invoice. The industry standard is to bill the invoice plus about 10% to cover costs. On drugs like Rocephin we usually lose money. I'd like to hear specifics of this example, as this doesn't fit my experience with insurance billing. There is a lot of misinformation being bandied about in order to influence the outcome of any reform, we all need to sit back and wait for the details before we condemn the entire process.

 

[Purple-Days]

Thanks HighEnd.

The PD is made to run on 12 Volts. Cars are 12.8 Volts to just under 14 with the alternator cranking. This gets the unit as hot as it is made to withstand (and pretty well at the high end of good vapor, close to too hot). Higher Voltages will equal higher temps, but past a point , what's the point? Not too many degrees between vapor and harsh vapor.

As to re-using the duff, you can do that with most duff (used once) from most vapes being used at reasonable temps. You can re-grind PD duff and revape it in a PD with results(even though it is the same temperature) , or any other device. Not much left, but it is something, and with prices what they are... That's why we include the blow bag. Most folks seem to find more enjoyment from making butter with the ABV. Check Clear Dome's cannabutter recipie.

A tip I have been using for a while, and learned here: Leave the stem in the heat exchanger for 20-30 seconds or longer. This really is helpful on the second and third hits. Leave it in a couple of minutes or more, no problem, the stainless steel of the tip heats up and really boosts extraction of those last bits you may not be getting at.

Costanza, All I read was 500MAH. :/ First off, that is how a battery is rated, so unless I'm stupido, these folks are half a bubble off. Second ignoring their ignorance in rating, 500mA is not enough to run a PD we draw about 700mA and ask folks to use 1000mA rated power supplies. First cause it's any easy rating to follow and find, and second because it has plenty of headroom. Not good to run an under rated supply, with any electrical device, as they can get extremely hot and possibly be a hazard !!! A few extra mA is a GOOD idea. No temp difference in the PD. 12V is 12V at whatever mA rating. Next I don't see plug size. Maybe I didn't look hard enough but since it falls short on power what was the use?

So the proper requirements, are as follows: 12 Volts DC @1000mA or higher. The plug end is 2.1mm x 5.5mm and is the Type M DC power plug. Center Pos. or Negative, doesn't matter. These specs are pretty easy to follow and find, like I said. Don't waste your time looking at anything else. Radio Shack, or similar for DC supplies. Jameco (#10081) or us for the original 12VAC power supply (yes AC or DC, doesn't matter 12V works the same in this app.) Hope that clears it up. Ask if you have questions.