Post-Processing Rosin - Your wish, after the squish

[invertedisdead]

@florduh yeah you can definitely do the float method, I’ve done that to pre-wick and prime oil in home filled cartridges and can’t see anything wrong with that method. The best part about rosin carts is there’s really nothing to the process of making these things outside of just using good clean hash.

But yeah, two strains is a rough selection for the modern enthusiast - that’s prohibition style!

CRC BHO would be pretty hard to switch to, I find I’m just never really satisfied with butane extracts anymore. The budget rosin from outdoors and deps isn’t much more than the Diet Dr Dab. Punch Extracts is doing some pretty good stuff in the ~$40 range here.

 

[florduh]

@florduh yeah you can definitely do the float method, I’ve done that to pre-wick and prime oil in home filled cartridges and can’t see anything wrong with that method. The best part about rosin carts is there’s really nothing to the process of making these things outside of just using good clean hash.

But yeah, two strains is a rough selection for the modern enthusiast - that’s prohibition style!

CRC BHO would be pretty hard to switch to, I find I’m just never really satisfied with butane extracts anymore. The budget rosin from outdoors and deps isn’t much more than the Diet Dr Dab. Punch Extracts is doing some pretty good stuff in the ~$40 range here.

I've been enjoying my hash rosin in the new Divine Tribe atty. But with these new ceramic and quartz cart styles coming out, the taste gap between LAYG and cartridges is basically closed. I'm waiting for a half gram version of a specific cart stye to come out before I start filling, but if the experiment works out this might be my main hash ROA.

With how expensive good hash is around me, carting the stuff might be the best way to stretch it out. I'm also torn. I want hash rosin to become so popular that it overtakes BHO. So I always sing it's praises to patients here. But then it always sells out and the price stays high. Oh well. Jungle Boys is opening here soon. They can make decent hash so hopefully the competition drives prices down.

 

[invisiblecomplications]

Hi I'm looking to make some rosin carts too.

@florduh did you have luck with any good reliable quartz or ceramic carts?

Also in terms of batteries any you guys can recommend preferably ones that can start at lower than 3V. I remember reading somewhere that maybe here or another thread about temps and it seems even starting at 3V was too hot from a temp perspective.

I'd rather try carts than have a dab pen the carts to me are inconspicuous and look just like a vape cart without having to carry dabs around to refill

 

[invisiblecomplications]

Bump for the above post

 

[feralcomprehension]

Yocsn Uni Pro, adjustable down to 2.0V by 0.1V steps and an FC favorite. I find I never go much over 2.6V across tens of carts... 2.0V preheat hits are good; learned that hearabouts.

ETA: Street price way lower than MSRP; I read there's a V2 available but to be clear I'm talking about the non-2.0.

 

[invisiblecomplications]

Yocsn Uni Pro, adjustable down to 2.0V by 0.1V steps and an FC favorite. I find I never go much over 2.6V across tens of carts... 2.0V preheat hits are good; learned that hearabouts.

ETA: Street price way lower than MSRP; I read there's a V2 available but to be clear I'm talking about the non-2.0.

Thanks for the reply appreciate it. I would liketo avoid box mods. I'm really looking for a battery shape like the old mech mods just round same size as the cart. Any idea on the carts?

 

[shredder]

I've been enjoying my hash rosin in the new Divine Tribe atty. But with these new ceramic and quartz cart styles coming out, the taste gap between LAYG and cartridges is basically closed. I'm waiting for a half gram version of a specific cart stye to come out before I start filling, but if the experiment works out this might be my main hash ROA.

With how expensive good hash is around me, carting the stuff might be the best way to stretch it out. I'm also torn. I want hash rosin to become so popular that it overtakes BHO. So I always sing it's praises to patients here. But then it always sells out and the price stays high. Oh well. Jungle Boys is opening here soon. They can make decent hash so hopefully the competition drives prices down.

Hash rosin is only cheap if you grow or have access to a lot of weed.

Never did the math but I get roughly a 28-30% return with tumble hash (145u) and a 30-50% return for hash rosin. I imagine it's less total returns for bubble hash but higher quality, so more $$.

As a caregiver it's 2 steps rather than a 1 step bud rosin. For me I'm thankful only one patient is using 100% hash rosin these days. And I gotta say his donation isn't anything close to $85.

 

[FlyingLow]

It does not seem that there are many new developments in post processing, but I keep seeing more and more on IG curing with sonic cleaners.

Have any of you tried this method? LowTemp recently put out an article on this: https://www.lowtemp-plates.com/blogs/knowledge/how-to-cure-rosin-using-an-ultrasonic-cleaner

 

[RustyOldNail]

It does not seem that there are many new developments in post processing, but I keep seeing more and more on IG curing with sonic cleaners.

Have any of you tried this method? LowTemp recently put out an article on this: https://www.lowtemp-plates.com/blogs/knowledge/how-to-cure-rosin-using-an-ultrasonic-cleaner

Don’t have any rosin, but I did buy my ultrasonic cleaner to “speed steep” my own ecig recipes. Should work, once you figure out how to keep the bottles from floating, etc. The linked article is very “general”, but in the article is a YouTube video link, that I’ll look at for fun….

 

[FlyingLow]

Also curious, when curing flower rosin, do you all agitate?

I have always let it nucleate (? is that the right word?) to completion without agitation. Do you all stir yours periodically? Am I missing out by not? Does it do anything to improve flavor profile?

 

[LesPlenty]

Have any of you tried this method?

Do you all stir yours periodically?

I always use my ultrasonic cleaner to 'mix' my rosin after pressing to just simply make all the dabs similar, done yesterday, this was on top of the lid of the UC lid with the water level just under to warm to 35C to blend the drips/collected from bakers paper goo by stirring with a hot knife then running for a couple more minutes on top for the following consistency,

 

[bizwaxzion]

@LesPlenty You got that color change from your process? I've been using the heat from my satellite TV box along with some stirring to change the texture (more buttered up) but I've not experienced any color change in the material. You are just setting it on the lid when running the UC?

 

[LesPlenty]

@LesPlenty You got that color change from your process?

No, the top was sun-grown buds and some scissor scrapings from harvesting that were pressed at 2500psi @ 99C for 4 minutes total on a 40mm puck, and the lower was LED-grown hydro of the same strain pressed at 1500psi @ 99 for 3 minutes total on the same sized puck.
I usually end up with drips on the silicone puck that I add the contents from the parchment paper of that press that then get sat on the UC lid at 30-35c just to mix each batch up. The pics above were taken an hour or so after stirring with my hot knife and UCing for 5 mins...hope that makes sense, if not I can always take a video next time if needed.

 

[bizwaxzion]

No, the top was sun-grown buds and some scissor scrapings from harvesting that were pressed at 2500psi @ 99C for 4 minutes total on a 40mm puck, and the lower was LED-grown hydro of the same strain pressed at 1500psi @ 99 for 3 minutes total on the same sized puck.
I usually end up with drips on the silicone puck that I add the contents from the parchment paper of that press that then get sat on the UC lid at 30-35c just to mix each batch up. The pics above were taken an hour or so after stirring with my hot knife and UCing for 5 mins...hope that makes sense, if not I can always take a video next time if needed.

Okay - I got you now. My outdoor stuff usually comes out darker than indoor also (both soil grown), but once in a while I'm surprised by something outdoor that comes out blond like your second image.

 

[Slim0317]

Very interessting...
I would like to know how you could post process rosin so you could use it in carts... so to say how to get it more runny without adding terps or pg or something else...

for example jar tek or mechanical seperation... what is the process from blue river and others... they already do it... there are slight informations on internet but I did not really find one describing the process from beginning to end especially for carts... seems like the holy grail... haha

If you decarb the rosin, it will stay at a consistency that works just fine in carts. I use nicotine pods with ceramic coils in them, but it's the same thing. I don't have to add anything. Once it stops bubbling, I suck it up in a syringe ($1.50/ea from GuildedExtracts.com) and fill my pod. I've filled carts too.

 

[btka]

If you decarb the rosin, it will stay at a consistency that works just fine in carts. I use nicotine pods with ceramic coils in them, but it's the same thing. I don't have to add anything. Once it stops bubbling, I suck it up in a syringe ($1.50/ea from GuildedExtracts.com) and fill my pod. I've filled carts too.

Are you using hash Rosin or flower rosin? Any clogging?

 

[Slim0317]

Are you using hash Rosin or flower rosin? Any clogging?

Right now flower rosin. The pods still work OK, but my empty Raw Garden carts (screw on tips) only work through one fill. After that, the cart doesn't clog, but it doesn't hit either because the wick is clogged. One is clogged inside the wick, the other is clogged outside. Inside I can clear; outside I have to transfer to new cart. Jury is still out on how long the pods will last before they get clogged. They'd probably clear out after an iso soak, but they're not expensive enough for me to take the extra steps.

 

[btka]

Right now flower rosin. The pods still work OK, but my empty Raw Garden carts (screw on tips) only work through one fill. After that, the cart doesn't clog, but it doesn't hit either because the wick is clogged. One is clogged inside the wick, the other is clogged outside. Inside I can clear; outside I have to transfer to new cart. Jury is still out on how long the pods will last before they get clogged. They'd probably clear out after an iso soak, but they're not expensive enough for me to take the extra steps.

At which temp. and how long do you decarb?

 

[Pimpslapper]

Read through the whole thread, can you please sanity check this idea? Goal is to make vape carts, or pods. I have about 60 G of med grade cannabis, gorilla glue and frosted lemon angel, both at 25%, both less than 4 months old and stored with 62%Boveda packs. I am going to make bubble hash this weekend and then press at 80c and then decarb and put in carts.
Can I only use the 25 micron hash for this or will the 72 or 90 micron hash also be suitable? If I can get three 1g carts I will be happy and the leftovers go in the wax pen!
Edit- is the result similar if I just press flower in a 90micron bag?Thanks!

 

[Chicken No Name]

Read through the whole thread, can you please sanity check this idea? Goal is to make vape carts, or pods. I have about 60 G of med grade cannabis, gorilla glue and frosted lemon angel, both at 25%, both less than 4 months old and stored with 62%Boveda packs. I am going to make bubble hash this weekend and then press at 80c and then decarb and put in carts.
Can I only use the 25 micron hash for this or will the 72 or 90 micron hash also be suitable? If I can get three 1g carts I will be happy and the leftovers go in the wax pen!
Edit- is the result similar if I just press flower in a 90micron bag?Thanks!

I can't add much other than my limited experience. I've only made one set of carts using 2 decarb methods and they were successful so I can recount what I did based on my research. I'm sure this cat can be skinned many ways so my process is far from the only or the best. Just what I did.

Hash rosin is supposed to be the best due to its 'purity' with less veg matter. Lower micron bags are correspondingly better as they further reduce veg matter/impurities. If you are going to the considerable hassle of making bubble I would get the correct mesh bags. I used 25 Micron with live hash rosin. Supposedly the best for terps retention. But I would be happy to use dried flower as you plan to.

Once you have the bh you need to decarb. I've used 2 methods, the low and slow in oven in small glass pot for multiple hours. Can't remember the details as I now prefer using a decarb puck. I bought this and have been impressed :

Mogobe Rosin Decarboxylation Capsule Pair with 7ML Silicone Container,

Use the Decarboxylator with a heat press machine whose plate size is larger than 2.5''*2.5''. Pair with any 7ML food grade silicone jar size 1.5'' in diameter and 0.8'' in tall. The decarboxylator is made of 6061 aluminum. Package including 4 silicone containers.

www.mogobe.co

More expensive options are also available.....

Takes 20mins between your plates plus a few hours cool down. Much easier than in the oven and I found the results the same (in my limited experience).

Fill prewarmed carts with glass syringe etc and job done.

Cart selection is important. I used ccell with 2mm and 1.5 mm output holes but they have developed some with 2.5 designed specifically for decarbed rosin so I'm going to buy some of these next time. The 2mm are better than the 1.5 I've used. Less effort to draw and less clogging.
It is also suggested to use 0.5ml carts as it seems they will eventually clog up and the 1ml tends to waste product. I don't plan to reuse carts. Not worth the risk to the product.
Here are the carts I plan to buy next run:

CCELL TH2 Cartridge | CCELL® Certified Official UK And European Resellers | We Are CCell Supplies

CCELL TH2 Oil Cartridge series(TH210,TH205,TH203) is the symbol of precise leakproofness and luxury user experience. Glass is adopted as housing material to ensure better anticorrosion property and better flowability of oil.

www.weareccellsupplies.com

Other carts are of course available. In EU I have access to a smaller selection.

I found this guide really helpful:

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

Good luck. Let us know how you get on and any tricks you pick up.

 

[Pimpslapper]

Thank you very much! That guide is useful, I will let you know how it turns out!

 

[btka]

I can't add much other than my limited experience. I've only made one set of carts using 2 decarb methods and they were successful so I can recount what I did based on my research. I'm sure this cat can be skinned many ways so my process is far from the only or the best. Just what I did.

Hash rosin is supposed to be the best due to its 'purity' with less veg matter. Lower micron bags are correspondingly better as they further reduce veg matter/impurities. If you are going to the considerable hassle of making bubble I would get the correct mesh bags. I used 25 Micron with live hash rosin. Supposedly the best for terps retention. But I would be happy to use dried flower as you plan to.

Once you have the bh you need to decarb. I've used 2 methods, the low and slow in oven in small glass pot for multiple hours. Can't remember the details as I now prefer using a decarb puck. I bought this and have been impressed :

Mogobe Rosin Decarboxylation Capsule Pair with 7ML Silicone Container,

Use the Decarboxylator with a heat press machine whose plate size is larger than 2.5''*2.5''. Pair with any 7ML food grade silicone jar size 1.5'' in diameter and 0.8'' in tall. The decarboxylator is made of 6061 aluminum. Package including 4 silicone containers.

www.mogobe.co

More expensive options are also available.....

Takes 20mins between your plates plus a few hours cool down. Much easier than in the oven and I found the results the same (in my limited experience).

Fill prewarmed carts with glass syringe etc and job done.

Cart selection is important. I used ccell with 2mm and 1.5 mm output holes but they have developed some with 2.5 designed specifically for decarbed rosin so I'm going to buy some of these next time. The 2mm are better than the 1.5 I've used. Less effort to draw and less clogging.
It is also suggested to use 0.5ml carts as it seems they will eventually clog up and the 1ml tends to waste product. I don't plan to reuse carts. Not worth the risk to the product.
Here are the carts I plan to buy next run:

CCELL TH2 Cartridge | CCELL® Certified Official UK And European Resellers | We Are CCell Supplies

CCELL TH2 Oil Cartridge series(TH210,TH205,TH203) is the symbol of precise leakproofness and luxury user experience. Glass is adopted as housing material to ensure better anticorrosion property and better flowability of oil.

www.weareccellsupplies.com

Other carts are of course available. In EU I have access to a smaller selection.

I found this guide really helpful:

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

Good luck. Let us know how you get on and any tricks you pick up.

How good does this work with „normal hash rosin“, I mean does it work as good as with live hash rosin? As far as I understand live hash rosin is made from „fresh frozen flowers“ (right after harvest you have to freeze“ and not dry…)

 

[Chicken No Name]

How good does this work with „normal hash rosin“, I mean does it work as good as with live hash rosin? As far as I understand live hash rosin is made from „fresh frozen flowers“ (right after harvest you have to freeze“ and not dry…)

As you say, live is fresh frozen.

The process is the same. Imo it will work just as well but I haven't done it yet myself. I've just used live so far.

The only possible advantage with live is the preservation of terps (for taste profile) and usually lighter colour of end product which is favoured by insta etc!
More terps may also result in a more liquid product which may clog less.
That doesn't mean it is necessarily better, just different.
I favour live and as I go ahead I will focus on mostly live but will also play with cured flower, just as I do when I process for use in an enail currently.