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placetime
Well-Known Member
I know y'all must be super-busy with the Solo stems, etc., but do you have any guesstimate when we might get to see some pics of the f-bomb or the FC Bubbler?
Sounds like I have been remiss in not mentioning the PV FC Bubbler in the unofficial thread....
[Edit: remedied... 
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Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
The Bottleneck for airflow is in the solo itself, not the joint, so I could see there being very little difference between a 14 & 18mm F-Bomb for Solo Use.
It also distinguishes it a bit more from the VXC hydratubes, which are all 18mm.
As for the thickness, I agree that 5mm is more desirable, but I assume it would maybe up the price a bit (both in material cost, and additional labor time)...
For me 3mm tends to be the minimum acceptable thickness I'm comfortable with on my pieces, so the 3.2 sounds OK to me.
Nic
Well-Known Member
Hi PV!! Do you have a set date when you plan to start carrying the Vapenwiser titanium domeless nails? I love my Ti nail but want to look into options that require less cleaning.
Also one question on its performance: I can see how the air flows differently rendering a dome unnecessary for vapor containment, but what about the dome's secondary function as a splash guard? (I'm also considering updating to a "turbine top" nail to try and control the splash; do any die-hard dabblers have experiences with either option?) After all my internets research my only solid conclusion is that the Vapenwiser is the prettiest haha.
Thanks PV!!
Also one question on its performance: I can see how the air flows differently rendering a dome unnecessary for vapor containment, but what about the dome's secondary function as a splash guard? (I'm also considering updating to a "turbine top" nail to try and control the splash; do any die-hard dabblers have experiences with either option?) After all my internets research my only solid conclusion is that the Vapenwiser is the prettiest haha.
Thanks PV!!
NewVape
What a guy!
I just recently got a Vapenwiser, but have only used it about once or twice. So far so good, but I'll have to use it steadily for a while before I render a verdict. I haven't really noticed any problems not having a dome to act as a splash guard, but once again time will tell. I started a thread over on the Concentrates forum, and will be updating it with reviews and more pics & vids.
This is a great question and one we have been struggling with. With the standard length GonG adapter you can potentially leverage a lot of force with the f-Bomb onto the little glass bowl inside the Solo creating a greater chance of breaking it. A shorter GonG is very desirable for this application. The problem that occurs is when it comes time to clear the f-Bomb, you need to separate slightly the GonG joint without lifting the bowl out of the Solo. With a small gap, you have no way of holding the GonG adapter from pulling out of the Solo. We thought of putting a small glass handle or disc that protrudes just far enough past the f-Bomb to hold down the GonG while clearing. Any ideas on how to best design this are welcome.
I know y'all must be super-busy with the Solo stems, etc., but do you have any guesstimate when we might get to see some pics of the f-bomb or the FC Bubbler?
Sounds like I have been remiss in not mentioning the PV FC Bubbler in the unofficial thread....
Thanks placetime, should have something to show very soon....
We agree with Frederick, a 14mm joint won't change the airflow for the Solo. The FC Bubbler will try to break new ground as a high quality bubbler, designed with input from the FC community, thicker glass is always nicer, but then all your costs go up, which is what we are trying to keep as low as possible. 3.2mm is just a starting point, 4mm or even 5mm might be possible, we just don't know yet.
Hi Jhonny,
We have communicated with Arizer about this and they will not sell the battery packs separately, only way without making one yourself is to send your Solo back to Arizer to have them do a battery transplant.
Hi Nic,
We have been testing the Vapenwiser extensively for a couple weeks and really like it. It is 100% USA made, even has papers certifying the Grade 2 Titanium, all smelted in the USA. The dabber it comes with is beautiful. We like to heat it up pointing the flame to the inside as well as the outside. We have not noticed any splashing, but maybe our dabs are not large enough to cause splashing?
A popular method to use the Vapenwiser domeless nail is "dunking", where you roll up your extract in to a tiny ball and slam dunk it into the hot nail, check youtube for dunking videos.
The universal fit is a nice bonus and no glass parts laying around or required cleaning. We should be stocking them very soon.
Peace and Love,
PV
Beardharmonica
Well-Known Member
The new PVHES are perfect. The fit better than all the other stems I got im my M1D2.
MacNcheesePLZ
HI-Temp Vaporist
The new PVHES are perfect. The fit better than all the other stems I got im my M1D2.
I'm curious how many slits at the bottom and channels on the side does that have?
VapeNStone
Mark
You are correct
Beardharmonica
Well-Known Member
Both mine came with 6 notches and 3 slits...
VapeNStone
Mark
oh shit I stand corrected
6 notches and 3 micro channels is correct, but the other details such as depth of cut, width, grit size used, slope of cut, laminar flow and others are a tightly guarded secret.
PV
AceTK
Radiant Thoughtforms
Hi PV and thanks for all your hard work on the solo accessories so far.
Id like to share my thoughts on the proposed f-bomb water attachment. After reading your description it would seem that the attachment is quite clunky and long on the top of the device and consists of multiple parts. Now if I was using the device at home I doubt I would mind too much about it but the solo is a fantastic portable device and an accompanying portable water attachment would really be incredible. The attachment needs to be slimline and in one piece. I have a few designs with one of them even like a standard straight tube with a micro dome at bottom. Using this design also keeps to the minimum air space preference. The second design is much like the first but the main chamber rest on the solo top with a hairline gap and is as wide as the solo itself and features a larger dome before feeding back into a standard straight solo tube. Both those designs can also be adapted for a bent tube easily. Also with the addition of 4 notches like the ones on the PVHES stems but at the exact mark points for the solo (90 degrees between) but without the addition of the side channels as ul not want too much airflow but the grooves at bottom should be better than just flat glass on metal. Making these small should also help with cost. They need to be simple, easy and effective. Unfortunately I do not have any experience or means to blow glass so I cannot send you an assembled sample to copy but id be happy to send you some mock up sketches. Also though I'd like to know what everyone thinks about this idea. Thanks
Id like to share my thoughts on the proposed f-bomb water attachment. After reading your description it would seem that the attachment is quite clunky and long on the top of the device and consists of multiple parts. Now if I was using the device at home I doubt I would mind too much about it but the solo is a fantastic portable device and an accompanying portable water attachment would really be incredible. The attachment needs to be slimline and in one piece. I have a few designs with one of them even like a standard straight tube with a micro dome at bottom. Using this design also keeps to the minimum air space preference. The second design is much like the first but the main chamber rest on the solo top with a hairline gap and is as wide as the solo itself and features a larger dome before feeding back into a standard straight solo tube. Both those designs can also be adapted for a bent tube easily. Also with the addition of 4 notches like the ones on the PVHES stems but at the exact mark points for the solo (90 degrees between) but without the addition of the side channels as ul not want too much airflow but the grooves at bottom should be better than just flat glass on metal. Making these small should also help with cost. They need to be simple, easy and effective. Unfortunately I do not have any experience or means to blow glass so I cannot send you an assembled sample to copy but id be happy to send you some mock up sketches. Also though I'd like to know what everyone thinks about this idea. Thanks
Hi AceTK,
Your ideas sound great, but are difficult for us to envision from the description. Some sketches would certainly help us to better understand your idea.
Please keep in mind the f-Bomb is not made exclusively for the Solo, it is designed to be modular to work with many devices just by changing the adapter interface. That way one f-Bomb can work with multiple vapes just by changing a small adapter. It will have adapters for the Solo, Extreme Q, Log Vapes, fit on top of the herbalAire mouthpiece without needing an adapter, Volcano bags, Persei, Omicron, O-PHOS etc. The f-Bomb is not clunky in any way and is just 1 piece.
We think we might already have a design for a future product which is closer to your description called the PVH2O, it will be part of our Signature Series and is basically a custom slightly oversized stem that has a small diffuser built in, made exclusively for the Solo, all one piece, just slightly bigger than a standard stem. The PVH2O is just in the design phase, no prototypes have been made to see if it even works yet.
PV
Your ideas sound great, but are difficult for us to envision from the description. Some sketches would certainly help us to better understand your idea.
Please keep in mind the f-Bomb is not made exclusively for the Solo, it is designed to be modular to work with many devices just by changing the adapter interface. That way one f-Bomb can work with multiple vapes just by changing a small adapter. It will have adapters for the Solo, Extreme Q, Log Vapes, fit on top of the herbalAire mouthpiece without needing an adapter, Volcano bags, Persei, Omicron, O-PHOS etc. The f-Bomb is not clunky in any way and is just 1 piece.
We think we might already have a design for a future product which is closer to your description called the PVH2O, it will be part of our Signature Series and is basically a custom slightly oversized stem that has a small diffuser built in, made exclusively for the Solo, all one piece, just slightly bigger than a standard stem. The PVH2O is just in the design phase, no prototypes have been made to see if it even works yet.
PV
Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
If the PVH2O ever happens, I want in 
EDIT:
I was thinking about the length of the stem under the f bomb, I would think the current gong stem could go about as short as where the roll stoppers are now, that would leave enough room to put a finger in there to hold the stem down when removing the f bomb.
A pad or something could also work, but might not look the prettiest
I think a fairly important design point to consider is the base.
For me, it would be best if it is very stable while sitting on a table.
I recently got a vxc hydratube, and specifically got a stand made for it because it doesnt look entirely stable standing in its own.
I figure the solo with the f bomb on top of it is gonna be fairly top heavy, so not as stable, but I wouldn't think leaving it on top of the solo would be a good idea anyways.
So a stable base for when it's not on a solo would be a plus for me.
EDIT:
I was thinking about the length of the stem under the f bomb, I would think the current gong stem could go about as short as where the roll stoppers are now, that would leave enough room to put a finger in there to hold the stem down when removing the f bomb.
A pad or something could also work, but might not look the prettiest
I think a fairly important design point to consider is the base.
For me, it would be best if it is very stable while sitting on a table.
I recently got a vxc hydratube, and specifically got a stand made for it because it doesnt look entirely stable standing in its own.
I figure the solo with the f bomb on top of it is gonna be fairly top heavy, so not as stable, but I wouldn't think leaving it on top of the solo would be a good idea anyways.
So a stable base for when it's not on a solo would be a plus for me.
AceTK
Radiant Thoughtforms
Ah yes the PVH2O does sound a lot more like what I'm after. I take your point about the f-bomb being used for other vapes therefore influencing its design away from a solo exclusive form though. If you need any help beta testing designs id gladly help and provide detailed test reports? Also il copy an image I have here on paper to my computer and upload so you can see the designs a bit better shortly.
VapeNStone
Mark
count me in as well for the PVH2O!!! So it would be a dry stem? Or a very small water attachment that is basically a bigger stem with a diffuser(which is basically what I gathered)?
Count me in for the PVH20 as well, I would reconsider buying a Solo if you released that (and Centizen's super batteries). I too think the FBomb might be a little large and clumsy, especially with the long neck of the gong, unless it's shorted and handles added as mentioned.
Regardless, I must commend PV for taking on all these initiatives with pvhes, gong, etc. because if it wasn't for PV, we simply just wouldn't have them. Kudos!
Regardless, I must commend PV for taking on all these initiatives with pvhes, gong, etc. because if it wasn't for PV, we simply just wouldn't have them. Kudos!
AceTK
Radiant Thoughtforms
Ok after consuming time trying to fumble with my netbooks under responsive trackpad and redraw I decided to just scan the rough hand drawn sketches in so be warned they are a bit wobbly but hopefully ul get the idea enough.
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/5cqbq
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/sdby6
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/337re
Picture 1 shows the slim bent tube
Picture 2 shows the slim straight tube
Picture 3 shows the bent tube with chamber and bubbler
Thank you again PV for your consideration.
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/5cqbq
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/sdby6
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/337re
Picture 1 shows the slim bent tube
Picture 2 shows the slim straight tube
Picture 3 shows the bent tube with chamber and bubbler
Thank you again PV for your consideration.
