Discontinued Pax Vaporizer by Ploom

[DogBoy]

...the store I bought me Pax at is an authorized dealer and the temperature ranges at the floor of the oven are aboot 215 to 230 to 250 (F) on the three settings...

...maybe I am expecting a bit much from it...I guess I do not have the technique down like the Vapeman does....

...my experience is consistent with some of the recent posters here taste wise...maybe the Pax is not for me...

...I can see where the "Pax is part Vaporblunt" reference on page one makes sense now...

...still...I have been vaping (?) the same herb with notable effect for quite a bit longer than it would have lasted in a glass pipe...

...can't really be combustion w/o ash can it...???...

...the stuff that comes out when it just gets too nasty is dark brown and you see some chared bits under a scope...but no ash...

...still some sparkles too, but methinks I am through with this load...

...I will try a finer grind like the Vapeman suggests...

 

[NickDlow]

...the store I bought me Pax at is an authorized dealer and the temperature ranges at the floor of the oven are aboot 215 to 230 to 250 (F) on the three settings...

Where did u get those temps?

If those are the temps in oven then there is a serious issue. The temps should be...

Yellow-370f
Orange-390f
Red-410f

I think u have a fake if not a broken pax

@Jman5280 I think u are bro. I haven't noticed any metal in my lungs lol

 

[Jman5280]

@Jman5280 I think u are bro. I haven't noticed any metal in my lungs lol

Lol yea man, I'm whyling

 

[DogBoy]

...using a ray tech pyrometer aimed at the the floor of the oven gave me those readings...

...I will try the meter on the stove...I thought the readings were low but did not see the temperatures specified before...

...one person said it sounded like the thing was getting too hot...now I am really confused...

....it could be the device is not reading the oven temperature correctly....I did expect to see numbers like that, only in centigrade...

...I sure seems to be getting hotter than 250 F....

 

[Jman5280]

...using a ray tech pyrometer aimed at the the floor of the oven gave me those readings...

...I will try the meter on the stove...I thought the readings were low but did not see the temperatures specified before...

...one person said it sounded like the thing was getting too hot...now I am really confused...

....it could be the device is not reading the oven temperature correctly....I did expect to see numbers like that, only in centigrade...

...I sure seems to be getting hotter than 250 F....

Put it on high and if the material isn't dark brown something jacked.

 

[NickDlow]

I'm sure having the oven cover off is effecting it a bit but I think like I said before it's fake or broken. I'd email ploom and see if it can get fixed or if it's legit. You cannot judge a pax if yours is malfunctioning or isn't real.Because IMO the pax is a great product it's reliable and extra stealthy. Not saying it's the best out there but for how I use it it's perfect. I have other vapes for other reasons so it's all a matter of preference. Hope u get to experience the real Pax good luck

 

[Jman5280]

...using a ray tech pyrometer aimed at the the floor of the oven gave me those readings...

...I will try the meter on the stove...I thought the readings were low but did not see the temperatures specified before...

...one person said it sounded like the thing was getting too hot...now I am really confused...

....it could be the device is not reading the oven temperature correctly....I did expect to see numbers like that, only in centigrade...

...I sure seems to be getting hotter than 250 F....

Take off mouthpiece and see if there is a serial number. It will be on the top of the body, next to the temp light button.

I can't imagine fakes would put serial numbers ...

 

[DogBoy]

...will do...thanks for the tip...

...the stuff does get dark brown...the pyrometer shows 500+ on the stove top so maybe it isn't getting a good reading...I usually trust it to give accurate data though...

...has anyone else tried a pyrometer on their Pax oven...???...

 

[DogBoy]

....well, packing the oven tighter seems to help...

...there is no way this device is only heating to 215-250 F....

...it is curious that I cannot get an accurate reading with proven pyrometer. ..

...there is indeed a serial number printed where it should be but even a lame counterfeit device would have a bogus serial number...

...as said if this devices is counterfeit it is a very good job of it...the package is spot on...

...the shop it is from is a registered ploom dealer, too, so counterfeit is unlikely...

...methinks the problem is a very demanding noob...I guess I want volcano like performance in a pocket vape that I can get unlimited hits off of...

...is that too much to ask...?!?...

...does Ploom have a Buyers Remorse policy....???...I have to say they seem to offer comprehensive support so I would not be surprised...

...I think I got some medicine in me...

 

[OregonStoner]

...has anyone else tried a pyrometer on their Pax oven...???...

This review of the Pax does include FLIR images of the temperatures of the oven at the three temperature settings.

As for the Propylene Glycol mouthpiece lubricant, it is instructed (on Ploom's website) to put a drop on the inside of the stem as well as the outside of the stem. When I first starting using the lube, I would also taste a sweetness for the first couple draws. The key for me to remove the taste was to use a VERY small amount. Ploom's website also points this out by stating "A little bit goes a long way".

Since Propylene Glycol is a solvent, I will usually apply a small drop into the stem and a little on the outside of the stem. I use a small dental brush to smear it around and also to run it around the inside of the stem. I then put the mouthpiece back on the Pax, run the mouthpiece up and down about 20 times, remove the mouthpiece again and wipe off all the PG that I can from both the outside and inside of the stem then I repeat the application and the working the mouthpiece 20 times. I sometimes do this 2 or 3 times or until the mouthpiece is moving like new.

By repeating the above steps and only leaving a very little PG on the last application, I can run my Pax for about two weeks before the temp light issue appears again. When I first starting using the lube, I was lucky to get two days without a temp light issue. Using the lube as more a cleaning solvent made all the difference to me.

 

[euph0ric1]

Lately I've ran into a funny situation, but it's simultaneously not funny at all.

The past two times I've ran outside on the stoop for a Pax session, when I pop open the mouthpiece with my thumb, if I don't do it slowly and carefully, the mouthpiece shoots right off of it and gets flung across the yard. It was dark. I was on my hands and knees in the yard with a flashlight for a good 8-10 minutes before I found the damn thing. This happened to me two nights in a row! It's possible that after continuous use, the mouthpiece loses its grip somewhat.

As long as I take my time clicking it open and simply leave my thumb on top of it while doing so, this is not an issue.. but consider this a word of warning, lol. I suppose it can double as a self-defense weapon in a pinch... because that thing can definitely shoot out of there with some serious force and speed

 

[DogBoy]

...I read that review and I must be some kind of idiot...

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[DogBoy]

...the Pax unit I am using takes aboot 70 seconds to get to temperature at the highest setting....is this within normal parameters...???...

...I thought I saw some saying their oven took more like 30 seconds...

 

[NickDlow]

On high mine take about a min. Also depends on how tight u pack ur herb.

 

[DogBoy]

...thanks...I am starting to get used to mine...

...I really want to like this thing...the design is ingenious...

...I am uncomfortably particular though....

...I sort of expected Mother Mary to come out of the mouthpiece and heal my lungs...

 

[NickDlow]

That's good to hear I'm sure u will be loving it very soon. It's great for me because it's stealthy, simple to load, and reliable. It's not a vape to use if ur chilling at home or something. (I do anyway lol) but those charistics I mentioned it's the best IMO. Plus it gets me wrecked lol well enjoy n good luck bro

 

[Jman5280]

Anyone ever look inside the mouthpiece vapor path and notice little scratches in the stainless?

Mine has scratches... Pretty sure this means that the metals are rubbing and scratching. Which also means those tiny peaces that are scratched off are most likely being inhaled...

I mentioned this early and was kinda laughed at but having tiny pieces of metal in your lungs is horrible. Also since lungs lack nerves, we wouldn't feel any pain...

 

[DogBoy]

...will there be blood...???...

 

[euph0ric1]

... Pretty sure this means that the metals are rubbing and scratching. .

What metals would be rubbing together to cause scratches? Do you use a metal brush of some kind to clean the vapor tube?

 

[Jman5280]

What metals would be rubbing together to cause scratches? Do you use a metal brush of some kind to clean the vapor tube?

The mouthpiece connects to the body via the two metal vapor paths. The parts that are moving when you press on and off...every time you turn on your pax those metals are rubbing.

Look inside the pax mouthpiece with a light, you will see tiny scratches = tiny metal flakes = inhaled inside...

 

[btka]

jman5280 hmmm i don t think that they use such bad metal, i understand you but i think the metal part isn t "coated"... the lube as i know isn t been used to stop cracking metal pieces of the stem... it is there to save your mouthpiece "stem" from sticking... and causing problems with the electronics... but maybe i am wrong....

 

[Jman5280]

jman5280 hmmm i don t think that they use such bad metal, i understand you but i think the metal part isn t "coated"... the lube as i know isn t been used to stop cracking metal pieces of the stem... it is there to save your mouthpiece "stem" from sticking... and causing problems with the electronics... but maybe i am wrong....

I'm not questioning the metal, I am pretty sure it's medical grade stainless.

But like I said, if you shine a light down the mouthpiece (the bottom that connects to the body), you will see scratches...this means the finish and metal itself has been scratched. Metal pieces had to of been removed for the scratch to form.

Would we know if we were inhaling pieces metal? I don't know that the human body would know...they would either be stuck in your body or rejecting through mucus and coughed up...idk it's scary to think about.

 

[NickDlow]

So don't think about it lol jk

 

[Jman5280]

cant help but think of metal being stuck in my lungs and esophagus...its only logical that every time you turn pax on or change the temperature, that you are shedding off little bitty pieces of the metal.

 

[VapeMan980]

I seriously doubt a bunch of Stanford graduates would overlook something like metal being stuck in lungs.. You guys are paranoid.. I need to get some of the stuff you are smoking..

Lol..