Open Source Glass Thread

[Erwin]

About the ring in the mini pillar. Either this aspect was overlooked or it does not have the issue on the same scale as the large one. There is a video for it and the water does not shoot up like that. It has already gone to production so hopefully it is not to problematic. Either way I will try to ensure this is changed for the next run of mini pillars


I am unclear as to what you are asking about the stereo matrix @Erwin

Well the function looks better on the video of the mini pillar then it did on the video of the EH-186 (for lack of a better name), specifically regarding the exchange of bubbles between the different pillars (some moving up while others are moving down). I'm hopeful, and will be eager to see how things go when we get our hands on them.

As for my question about the FC-186, I guess I'm trying to find a respectful way to ask: why? I've never even understood why mobius makes his tubes shaped like bottles with a narrow neck, like the design you've put forth. I would much rather have a bubbler style like the existing GB-186, or a straight tube bong with a wider mouthpiece and room for ice, which is already available on dhgate (and I've considered buying). I guess I just don't see the advantage of the narrow neck. Am I missing something obvious?

Man all those prototype pics are making my wallet ache.

They're all making my wallet rejoice! Gonna get to use all the best percs on a daily basis while still having a bank account...

 

[blankrider]

The narrow neck provides better flavor and less volume for vapor to condense.

I remember when bongs had 50mm strait neck and every now and then someone would drool in it lol.

They seem to have gotten smaller in 6mm steps. 44mm, then 38mm, then 32mm, and now it seems like 26mm is an industry standard. Maybe I'm behind the times and it is even smaller.

Making the necks smaller and smaller created the need for a flared mouthpiece for a better seal on the small necks.

Ice is a lot less popular these days. Some people argue against its use entirely. Water pipe technology has improved and increased diffusion reduced the need for further cooling. It is also hard to fit ice cubes in narrow necks. Some younger people don't even know what an ice catch is. It is an old school thing

 

[Erwin]

The narrow neck provides better flavor and less volume for vapor to condense.

I remember when bongs had 50mm strait neck and every now and then someone would drool in it lol.

They seem to have gotten smaller in 6mm steps. 44mm, then 38mm, then 32mm, and now it seems like 26mm is an industry standard. Maybe I'm behind the times and it is even smaller.

Making the necks smaller and smaller created the need for a flared mouthpiece for a better seal on the small necks.

Ice is a lot less popular these days. Some people argue against its use entirely. Water pipe technology has improved and increased diffusion reduced the need for further cooling. It is also hard to fit ice cubes in narrow necks. Some younger people don't even know what an ice catch is. It is an old school thing

Haha, alright then! Goddamn. I didn't think I was so old school. You just made me feel like an old man.
In that case I might just have to get one for myself and try it out when the time comes. I guess ice is really a combustion thing, after all...

 

[Tweak]

Haha, alright then! Goddamn. I didn't think I was so old school. You just made me feel like an old man. .

Well the glass scene is pretty new, relatively to how long the plant has been around,

I remember seeing my first glass spoon, I was like, where does the screen go?

 

[cybrguy]

Following requests of different type of mouthpieces for the Bubbler Hookah-Style

The more I look at it the more I like the prophylactic... I mean rolled lip MP. I think I like 7 better than 5 tho as I think the angle on 5 may attract sticky that would be lost for those of us who don't reclaim.
Or maybe not...

 

[blankrider]

@Erwin I am not sure how old you have to be to be old school. I will be thirty next year and would consider myself old school.

The last custom piece I had made by efs glass I got a 32mm bent neck stemline with ice pinch. It was my combustion daily driver for about a year. I only put ice in it a handful of times. It was enjoyable but somewhat difficult to fill. You need to use crushed ice, tiny cubes, or snow. I would never recommend anything less than 32mm for an ice pinch neck and 38mm is a lot better.

Snow bongs are old school

@Tweak I have had to remove metal screen from a handful of glass bowls in my life while hanging out with old timers. They are my favorite people to chill with

 

[Erwin]

@Erwin I am not sure how old you have to be to be old school. I will be thirty next year and would consider myself old school.

The last custom piece I had made by efs glass I got a 32mm bent neck stemline with ice pinch. It was my combustion daily driver for about a year. I only put ice in it a handful of times. It was enjoyable but somewhat difficult to fill. You need to use crushed ice, tiny cubes, or snow. I would never recommend anything less than 32mm for an ice pinch neck and 38mm is a lot better.

Snow bongs are old school

@Tweak I have had to remove metal screen from a handful of glass bowls in my life while hanging out with old timers. They are my favorite people to chill with

Well I don't know what the average age of this board is, but you've only got a year on me and I'd like to think that, at least when it comes to glass, I'm pretty up-to-date. But I'm totally still old school enough to fondly remember the days of snow bongs

And, admittedly, I've also never found myself using ice as much as I thought I would when I've had the option on a daily driver... I had the same problem with my möbius nano, too, in that I could only use very small and crushed up ice. I guess that's why I was liking the idea of an old-school, wide mouthed straight tube with room for big cubes and a stereo matrix. And then I remembered that ice and vaping don't mix... Gonna have to get me one of those FC-186s for sure...

 

[Frederick McGuire]

You old timers being like 2 years older than me

I recently used a single ice cube in the mouth piece of my gb-186
As it melted i got a tiny amount of percolation from it - it was like a tiny melting disk perc

Btw, early on in the fc242 discussion a stereo matrix version was proposed as a possible upgrade as that perc seems better at getting water moving.

It was decided to stick with the standard matrix to keep it as just an upgraded gb-242, which I agree with, but the idea of a stereo matrix recycler has caught my imagination.

I was gonna take a crack at mocking up a design for a stereo matrix recycler, just wanted to know if anyone had any input/thoughts before I do so?

I'm thinking it should either be
a standard single uptake/single return funnel recycler, or
a single uptake per funnel/double funnel recycler, or
An interesting multi uptake/single funnel recycler - 3 or 4 uptake tubes.

 

[Tweak]

When I was a teen I remember seeing a glass blower on a tour, he sit behind a big glass shield for everybody to see and you could still feel the heat from the torch.

 

[blankrider]

Anyone seen this episode of Workaholics?

"The weed we get always has lots of stems in it! How do we even know this is real? It looks like you made it with a creepy crawler machine!"

 

[cybrguy]

Anyone seen this episode of Workaholics?

"The weed we get always has lots of stems in it! How do we even know this is real? It looks like you made it with a creepy crawler machine!"

No, but if you are 30, do you even know what a creepy crawler machine is?

Edit: Nevermind. I see they brought it back several times. I had one as a kid, and I'm about double your age...

 

[MuushuPork]

Id like to request working with Steven on an all glass solution for concentrates with the e-nano through a water piece. Even if it never happens maybe this will get the ball rolling. Joda was working on it but seems to not be able to make it work.

 

[Erwin]

You old timers being like 2 years older than me

I recently used a single ice cube in the mouth piece of my gb-186
As it melted i got a tiny amount of percolation from it - it was like a tiny melting disk perc

Btw, early on in the fc242 discussion a stereo matrix version was proposed as a possible upgrade as that perc seems better at getting water moving.

It was decided to stick with the standard matrix to keep it as just an upgraded gb-242, which I agree with, but the idea of a stereo matrix recycler has caught my imagination.

I was gonna take a crack at mocking up a design for a stereo matrix recycler, just wanted to know if anyone had any input/thoughts before I do so?

I'm thinking it should either be
a standard single uptake/single return funnel recycler, or
a single uptake per funnel/double funnel recycler, or
An interesting multi uptake/single funnel recycler - 3 or 4 uptake tubes.

I like it. I'm not sure what you've got in mind for multi uptakes, but I think think multiple uptakes would be best for the volume of water a stereo matrix moves. I'd vote just one funnel though, personally. Largely due to aesthetics, but also because I've never hit a double funnel and don't know what it's like. I'll be stoked to see what you come up with.

 

[BoogerMan]

For the FC-UFO I vote #2, #7, #8.

I actually like 8 over 7. They look like they have the same mouthpiece but 8 has some rings around the tube. I really like the look of these ring things. I think it helps make it look not as plain (and more expensive ).

I guess the mouthpiece truly doesn't matter as much to me because I will be using this as a hookah for sure! I've wanted a glass hookah for a long time now, but they are fairly pricy.

How big are we thinking the can will be? I personally would like to see it be extra large. I've used some of my bubblers as hookahs and the hookah smoke got warmer faster than normal because it doesnt hold as much water as a hookah and I couldn't get ice in there. So I think a large can that can hold a decent amount of water will be important and maybe some sort of way to get ice in the can?

Maybe we should make two versions of this UFO. One that is normal bubbler size with only like a 10 slit Showerhead for people who will use it for vaping.

And if enough people do smoke hookah on here let's make a second version with a huge can and a giant oversized Showerhead with like 20-40 slits and a way to get ice cubes into the can

Just my

 

[blankrider]

I was thinking that the FC-UFO would be the same size can as the 187. My 187 can is 65mm wide and 135mm tall. It seems like a good in between size. Not too large or too small.

 

[alltoreup]

FC UFO Mouthpiece vote #5, but any of the bottom row rolled MPs would be fine with me. Now you guys are getting it Might even pick up extras for my current remove-able MP piece And you can put that rolled MP on the smaller tube MPs as well. All small mouthpieces don't have to be flared, so don't let that scare anyone away.

 

[BoogerMan]

I was thinking that the FC-UFO would be the same size can as the 187. My 187 can is 65mm wide and 135mm tall. It seems like a good in between size. Not too large or too small.

Yeah that's a good size for a vape bubbler for sure!

For a hookah though I think it may be too small. I mean it would work, don't get me wrong, but it wouldn't be as cool (temperature wise) and as smooth as one with a much larger can.

If there aren't many hookah smokers on here I won't push a version 2 with a chamber like double the size of the 187 can.

****PLEASE ONLY LIKE THIS POST IF****
you would be interested in a glass hookah that is larger in size and can hold ice.

If this post gets enough likes maybe we can design something for hookah only

 

[blankrider]

I am in 100% support of what @BoogerMan is trying to do with his post ^^^

I don't often smoke hookah anymore and have one of the old Mya ones. It is cool to bust out from time to time.

I didn't realize there were people trying to smoke hookah with new school glass. The only person I have seen so far is @rgrig with his custom piece from @distilledglass but that does not mean that there is not an overlooked demand for this.

If you would truly be interested in buying a LARGE scale hookah in this style please like @BoogerMan post above

 

[cybrguy]

The nice thing about the UFO is we don't HAVE to decide on one MP, and I don't even think we should. As long as the joint is a standard GG 18 (or 14 but 18 preferred) the MP will be usable in other applications and I would be happy to get more than one. Maybe we should decide on 3 or 4, if Steven would support that and keep them reasonable.

And along that line a MP like 4 or even a bit longer would have application for when you might like a little longer view at the can.

 

[Monsoon]

This one doesn't hold ice but gives you an idea of what it could look like. Having standard joints all over gives you a lot of options for how to use it.

 

[BoogerMan]

This one doesn't hold ice but gives you an idea of what it could look like. Having standard joints all over gives you a lot of options for how to use it.

Yeah that's a sweet one! I've actually seen a couple on DHgate similar to that sized one but it is still too small for what I have in mind. I want something that can hold quite a bit more water but still has the 18mm joints like the one you posted.

Evolution, Lavoo, and Luna also make some nice hookahs but most of them are $200 for small ones like the one above and the big ones are around $300-$500.

I'm hoping to get a large size one from Steven for around $50-$75, maybe $100 but that's probably pushing it for most people who would buy it.

I really like this design because it is very very stable and holds a significant amount of water. They run $350 though. I think it is doable for Steven to make.

 

[Erwin]

As for the mouthpieces, I personally like 2, 8 and 7 the most, in that order. The girlfriend likes 2 and 7 most... I dunno if that counts as an additional vote. I like the idea of multiple mouthpiece options, though, and perhaps an option or two for different whip lengths.

I've actually seen a couple on DHgate similar to that sized one but it is still too small for what I have in mind.

Got any links? I'm intrigued.

 

[tennstrong]

For interest, I think a lot of people (myself included) would be interested in a ball rig female jointed like the originals, if they can do the fab egg they can for sure do a solid ball that really hasn't been done yet. All of the ones out there have just shoddy design or have not centered joints, for a group that can pull off an egg that clean they shouldn't have much trouble pushing out more if not mass prods of solid ball rigs imo. Really the focus has to be on an actual circular ball center, otherwise the function is just off- as you can see in the teardrop style ball rigs out there right now. It doesn't even need to have a great percolation system- just a showerhead would do. The base needs to be very thick though to properly support it. If this is possible I know that there would be a lot of interest among enail users on a budget as well as people wanting to just use it with a honeybucket. I just find that if the joint is off centered or not alined 90 degrees it is an instant non-purchase for me.

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

Guys I started a thread about vaping with a hookah a while back;

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vaping-with-a-hookah.12951/

Around the time the Versa Infinity was released there were a few of us messing around connecting it to a Hookah. I went so far as to purchase a Roi Beast Hooka. Its alright but honestly the chamber (can) is really too big to use with a vaporizer. I found that by using diffusion beads I could get better results.

I would be much more interested in getting a bubbler to use instead. What I do have is a whip with an 18mm male glass connector on one end and a 12 inch glass mouthpiece on the other. This part I love and hopefully can use it to hook up to this hookah style bubbler.

 

[oli]

I was gonna take a crack at mocking up a design for a stereo matrix recycler, just wanted to know if anyone had any input/thoughts before I do so?

I'm thinking it should either be
a standard single uptake/single return funnel recycler, or
a single uptake per funnel/double funnel recycler, or
An interesting multi uptake/single funnel recycler - 3 or 4 uptake tubes.

Remember messing around with this idea....

To all enthusiast Photo-sketchers out there: I have done a couple of stuff with @blankrider which is quite good fun. If YOU also enjoy messing around with Photoshop or other soft and like the challenge of putting glass together, why don't you come and join the fun. Also do not hesitate to copy what is already started and improve on it.
(Just wanted to be clear and transparent about the fact that I'm doing it to help the thread and have No monopoly on any of it)