Micro-dosing

hoptimum

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Ok so my question is I only have a PAX at the moment. Hopefully soon i would get a POTV Lobo. How would i go about accomplishing that with either of those devices? I cause i should ask which devices are best for Micro-Dosing then too . What do you use? I see in some of these pics what a little amount of weed that is!

So any recommendation? ..................................asking for a friend.........;)
Log vapes are well suited to micro dosing.
 

darkstar72

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I’m impressed by the people using .005 or .01 gram amounts. Also impressed by weekend only tokers. Yesterday I got out the $20 micro scale and measured out a dose for a change. I split .04 grams in half. Consumed both amounts with my log and sake bong. Second cleanup hits were useless with no visual vapor coming through the bong. I kind of like the two tiny one hitter idea. But would just one .02 load satisfy? Not sure, but will have to give it a shot. Thanks for the motivation.
 

Fearless Disaster

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I’m impressed by the people using .005 or .01 gram amounts. Also impressed by weekend only tokers. Yesterday I got out the $20 micro scale and measured out a dose for a change. I split .04 grams in half. Consumed both amounts with my log and sake bong. Second cleanup hits were useless with no visual vapor coming through the bong. I kind of like the two tiny one hitter idea. But would just one .02 load satisfy? Not sure, but will have to give it a shot. Thanks for the motivation.
20mg is my ideal dose which is exactly what you are packing
 

Pib

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Ok so my question is I only have a PAX at the moment. Hopefully soon i would get a POTV Lobo. How would i go about accomplishing that with either of those devices? I cause i should ask which devices are best for Micro-Dosing then too . What do you use? I see in some of these pics what a little amount of weed that is!

So any recommendation? ..................................asking for a friend.........;)
I use the TM2, but it wouldn't be so great without CBD. For me, CBD makes the session more relaxed and at the same time it prolongs it. I like being able to set whether I can play for a long time at a low temperature or a short time at a high temperature. At low temperatures you have the pure taste for a very long time, but high temperatures serve quickly.

At Christmas, I was talking to a friend who quit because he was always listless after consumption and didn't want to work full time. That doesn't happen to me with small amounts and I don't have a hangover, which is very important for me. That is my way and everyone must find his own.
 

Flotsam

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I use the TM2, but it wouldn't be so great without CBD. For me, CBD makes the session more relaxed and at the same time it prolongs it. I like being able to set whether I can play for a long time at a low temperature or a short time at a high temperature. At low temperatures you have the pure taste for a very long time, but high temperatures serve quickly.

At Christmas, I was talking to a friend who quit because he was always listless after consumption and didn't want to work full time. That doesn't happen to me with small amounts and I don't have a hangover, which is very important for me. That is my way and everyone must find his own.
Regarding your friend can't that possibly the type of strain he is vaping? I know for me if it was early in the day I prefer a sativa & i would think apply to micro-dosing as well. If i were a strong indica it will cause me to be more lethargic and that's generally late in the day what i am looking for.

If i were to do sativa late it will keep me up for hours and i can't get to bed till 4. Are the natures of the strain more subdued when they are micro-dosed?
 
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im not a robot

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I cause i should ask which devices are best for Micro-Dosing then too . What do you use? I see in some of these pics what a little amount of weed that is!
imo hands down the vapman. i also have woodscents log i love, it also works well for microdosing and is my favourite for pace & taste, as it manages to stretch out tiny amounts to a surprising number of satisfying hits. but the vapman functions well with the tiniest of slivers of material, it is in its own league.
 

Pib

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Regarding your friend can't that possibly be the type of strain he is vaping?
I think it's always better to listen to the decision than to look for possibilities. I also feel that the quantity plays a big part in how I feel, despite the different strains. I check every month whether I can still manage without it, which means that I take a break of three to seven days. If the urge to consume persists, I would simply destroy my stash. Healthy consumption is more important to me than consumption.

As im not a robot suggests, the Vapman is perfect for very small amounts.
 

the_hexx

Team Hash
Log vapes are well suited to micro dosing.
They really are, and for me the ultimate microdoser is the Heat Island.
I’ve been using this for the last year or so and have grown to love it, it gives a really nice buzz with next to nothing; I’m talking 0.02-0.03 with the SS mouthpiece and no more than 0.05 with the glass one. I get one very nice hit and a weaker second one on each bowl, the airflow is very open and the buzz lingers for more than it’s allowed to considering the amount!

This took a while to reach me but I had a great interaction with Alan, he’s such a gent and sells those for what is basically a steal. If anyone here is debating whether to get in the queue for one I say do it, you certainly won’t be disappointed!
 

Fearless Disaster

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Other underrated (manual) devices for 0.01 - 0.05g amounts are Dani Fusion, Camouflet Convector (currently on sale for $10 btw) and MHs Tempest. But yeah, I'm all about the Vapman too, tbh
thanks! I have a tempest and convector on the way. I didn't expect to use the tempest for micros but will definitely try! I'm planning to use them with wpa's to be able to load less without exposing empty screen. Ideally I would like to be able to meter in 10mg amounts, starting at 10 or 20.

The vapman is on my radar but I'm not sure if it's an improvement over these 2. What do you all think?I believe the convector screen is about 10mm in diameter which should make it capable of smaller amounts than devices with larger diameter screens? Can a vapman handle 10-20mg amounts without getting wispier and needing more hits to clear?
 

Perfect_Speed4069

I am the beetle in a box that only you can see
Can a vapman handle 10-20mg amounts without getting wispier and needing more hits to clear?
I am no longer about big clouds, so I'm perhaps not your best advisor. I like multiple low temp wispy hits these days. 10-20mg in the Vapman is 4 or 5 hits for me. Two and a half in a Fusion/Tempest.
 

coolbreeze

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thanks! I have a tempest and convector on the way. I didn't expect to use the tempest for micros but will definitely try! I'm planning to use them with wpa's to be able to load less without exposing empty screen. Ideally I would like to be able to meter in 10mg amounts, starting at 10 or 20.

The vapman is on my radar but I'm not sure if it's an improvement over these 2. What do you all think?I believe the convector screen is about 10mm in diameter which should make it capable of smaller amounts than devices with larger diameter screens? Can a vapman handle 10-20mg amounts without getting wispier and needing more hits to clear?
Vapman's so different. It's super efficient with a proper load; I think .02 is probably a third/quarter bowl or so. It looks like it might work better in the conical bowl of the V2?
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I am no longer about big clouds, so I'm perhaps not your best advisor. I like multiple low temp wispy hits these days. 10-20mg in the Vapman is 4 or 5 hits for me. Two and a half in a Fusion/Tempest.
And the hits build to something beyond the am't you've loaded. It would also be different as a conduction vape, while the others lean convection. A vapman can co-exist comfortably with the ConvectorXL and Tempest as it does things a little differently.

After 4 heatings:
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im not a robot

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Other underrated (manual) devices for 0.01 - 0.05g amounts are Dani Fusion, Camouflet Convector (currently on sale for $10 btw) and MHs Tempest. But yeah, I'm all about the Vapman too, tbh
i have not tried any of these yet, but i go through spells when i want to order any one of them. but 10$ sale for a camouflet convector? is this a typo? i am in europe so that could be a problem, but for 10$ i would get one in a heartbeat.
i do have a vaphit x which i really like, it is the best value vape i ever purchased & taste is good too. it works well with small amounts, but not quite like the vapman. i agree with @coolbreeze that efficiency of the vapman is just nuts. its slow pace is one of the things i really like about it, and it packs a sneaky punch in there. but yes not for big clouds.
lately i have been considering getting a tempest b/c i never tried anything with balls and i guess i am curious. not convinced it would really fit my use case, but i suppose it is an easy resell. but i would probably only order the head as i generally prefer glass stems.
 

Fearless Disaster

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I am no longer about big clouds, so I'm perhaps not your best advisor. I like multiple low temp wispy hits these days. 10-20mg in the Vapman is 4 or 5 hits for me. Two and a half in a Fusion/Tempest.
thanks, this is good info. I think convection vapes are the ones with minimum amount requirements for screens. as I look at the vapman more I am not sure that it would have that problem since it's so conduction oriented. If you can get 4-5 pulls of 10-20mg the I'm sure I can get 2 or 3 and that's fine :)
 

Fearless Disaster

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Vapman's so different. It's super efficient with a proper load; I think .02 is probably a third/quarter bowl or so. It looks like it might work better in the conical bowl of the V2?
IMG-1605.jpg


And the hits build to something beyond the am't you've loaded. It would also be different as a conduction vape, while the others lean convection. A vapman can co-exist comfortably with the ConvectorXL and Tempest as it does things a little differently.

After 4 heatings:
IMG-1607.jpg
do you feel like there is a minimum load size in the vapman under which the device doesn't operate like it should?
 
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coolbreeze

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do you feel like there is a minimum load size in the vapman under which the device doesn't operate like it should?
That was a weighed .02g and this is .01g:
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It was essentially a one-hitter. First heat didn't even give much flavor, 2nd heat finished it right off.
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I think it would get harder from here. Maybe you could get sufficiently deft with your heating technique to go below .01g productively. It's probably doable and probably easier with the station.
 

Perfect_Speed4069

I am the beetle in a box that only you can see
I think it would get harder from here.
I just did similar, 0.01g of 50:50 mix, and got 2 nice green hits (one whispy), and a couple of toasty brown ones (both whispy). And that was with a very gingerly applied quad torch in x4 3 second bursts. (Don't judge me btw: it was the closest torch within reach, and it was using the partially roasted/restored applewood Vapman, which I'm less careful with.) Anyway, mine didn't go quite as dark as yours. I don't think of myself as a torch ninja btw, nor am I used to using a flamethrower on these devices. Usually just a regular Aomai single, flint/Vapman lighter. Sorry no pictures, but I'll try again tomorrow. I'm delightfully lifted right now btw

Edit. Apologies, stoner science interlude. Your bud looks greener than mine, and mine is also much finer ground so I wonder if that makes yours ”heavier" ie yours is moister, and this makes a difference?
 
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coolbreeze

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I just did similar, 0.01g of 50:50 mix, and got 2 nice green hits (one whispy), and a couple of toasty brown ones (both whispy). And that was with a very gingerly applied quad torch in x4 3 second bursts. (Don't judge me btw: it was the closest torch within reach, and it was using the partially roasted/restored applewood Vapman, which I'm less careful with.) Anyway, mine didn't go quite as dark as yours. I don't think of myself as a torch ninja btw, nor am I used to using a flamethrower on these devices. Usually just a regular Aomai single, flint/Vapman lighter. Sorry no pictures, but I'll try again tomorrow. I'm delightfully lifted right now btw

Edit. Apologies, stoner science interlude. Your bud looks greener than mine, and mine is also much finer ground so I wonder if that makes yours ”heavier" ie yours is moister, and this makes a difference?
I'm high too. ; )

I didn't think I was going that hard so I'm a little surprised. Maybe I had my torch higher than I thought? I'll have t try it again in a bit. It could be heavier, indeed. Does it look like it would grind down less than you packed?
 

Fearless Disaster

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That was a weighed .02g and this is .01g:
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It was essentially a one-hitter. First heat didn't even give much flavor, 2nd heat finished it right off.
IMG-1614.jpg

I think it would get harder from here. Maybe you could get sufficiently deft with your heating technique to go below .01g productively. It's probably doable and probably easier with the station.
no, I don't actually see going lower than 10mg. 20mg seems like a good dose for me although sometimes a little strong. I'm gonna look into vapmans now :)
 

Radwin Bodnic

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no, I don't actually see going lower than 10mg. 20mg seems like a good dose for me although sometimes a little strong. I'm gonna look into vapmans now :)
The concentrate / micro dosing sieve helps a lot when doing small to very small loads. I have the feeling I can push the load further without charring.
 

Fearless Disaster

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thank you! so it looks to me that the conduction focus of the vapman is what allows it to be so effective with tiny amounts. that article was even talking about 1mg amounts, which is great granularity!

I have a new question now. Based on the vapman design, I am wondering if the vapman click can do the same small amounts as the og? if the bowl is bigger but its still a conduction roaster then there might actually be no minimum load size? I used a dynavap for a long time and the click might be helpful for me.
 
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