I dont see why not. However, we would prefer that people be clear as to their preference when they order, since we are not promising to send everyone two units for the price of one. For various reasons, we are unable to accept returns, so from our view, every "swap" end up being a full grant. Despite this, we do want people to be happy with what we offer and are willing to do what we can to 'make it right' for everyone. If you genuinely find that the lower temp version you ordered is not to your liking, we will send you a regular insert. In return, we would ask that you please comment on your findings/feelings about the differences so that others can make a more informed decision.NoSmoke said:Just ordered one of these puppies, I'm really curious as to how this thing works out for me.
One question I have is "will I be able to swap for the higher temp one if its not to my liking?"
wouldnt that be something youd want to ask BEFORE you did it?MrMistyTokes said:btw i was wondering if butane flame cleaning the screen fucked it up and weakened the bonds? i had it all crazy blue and purple colours from flaming it looked so sicck haha![]()
This question gets asked a lot and unfortunately, depends significantly on enough factors to make it rather hard to give any single "representative" number. What is much easier is to say that the "low temp" version tends to be about 125 degrees (F) cooler than the normal version, given the same operating conditions.DeepFried said:what are the maximum temps reached for the high temp. version and the low temp version?
Butane flame cleaning is ok if used with care. It is unlikely to damage the bonding. The idea with fire cleaning is to ensure that the the screen never gets more than a dull red hot. This is especially important if using a mini-torch -- keep the fire at least 2 inches away or you will overheat the screen. Please be very careful -- it is surprisingly easy to get it way too hot fast with a torch. More than red hot is bad.MrMistyTokes said:i was wondering if butane flame cleaning the screen fucked it up and weakened the bonds? i had it all crazy blue and purple colours from flaming it looked so sicck haha![]()
NoSmoke said:I barely got to use mine before it quit working all of a sudden. all i can say for now is the vapor to air ratio is low, the taste isnt is bad as i thought. I have no clue why it stopped working though?? Oh yeah and kief works well but it sticks to the screen ( hard to cash) could be the low temp
I live in FL, where humidity is generally high, and temps fluctuate. I generally keep my equipment in my trunk. So it routinely gos from 70-ishF to over 110F multiple times a day. Would this humidity, and heat cycle have a bad affect on the wood?magicflight said:Hi,
In regards to the question about Canadian winter, the Launch Tube will work with a moderately cold environment, but is not expected to perform as well in a very cold environment. Anything below 50 degrees Fahrenheit ambient temperature is probably iffy. Also, the unit does not handle water/wet very well -- it tends to cause the wood to swell and make the glass hard to fit. Long exposure (days) to high humidity can cause fitting problems too.
-- Magic-Flight
lwien, this is a product in an early stage of development. From my personal experience, I can tell you that parts and components that are actually designed for the space shuttle or a military application with a multi-million dollar budget, the backing of a large manufacturing facility, and its own R&D department and clean room often do look like a highschool science project in the early stages.lwien said:The unit looks like a high-school science project made in some one's garage, and yet with all of the verbiage regarding the manufacturing of this unit, it not only sounds like a part that was designed for the space shuttle, but also has the backing of a large manufacturing facility with it's own R&D department and a clean room.
Hi,MrMistyTokes said:really excited to see what you whipped up
i hope it either has alot more wood or alot more glass
and more power would be cool like a d cell
Man, that quote was over 100 posts ago. Forgot I even said that. :/firstavailable said:lwien, this is a product in an early stage of development. From my personal experience, I can tell you that parts and components that are actually designed for the space shuttle or a military application with a multi-million dollar budget, the backing of a large manufacturing facility, and its own R&D department and clean room often do look like a highschool science project in the early stages.
Hi,MrMistyTokes said:only problem i have with the current model is how foggy the glass gets if you puff it slow for thick hits
changable screen heaters would be perfect for the next model? hash oil gummed my flight tube screen- but works sooo well
It could. We try to protect the wood with a finish, but due to health concerns, there is only a limited number of options available. The temperature variation is no problem. Of more concern is the high humidity, which can in extreme conditions cause the wood to swell and bind the glass. Dry conditions will restore the wood to its original shape and functionality. Mostly this is a "time of exposure" problem. High humidity for a few hours is no problem, yet high humidity (more than 70%) for three continuous days can cause binding issues (as found in our product testing). The unit also does not do well if it gets soaking wet in water for more than 15 minutes. We explicitly state in the directions provided with the unit to prevent it from getting wet.firstavailable said:I live in FL, where humidity is generally high, and temps fluctuate. I generally keep my equipment in my trunk. So it routinely gos from 70-ishF to over 110F multiple times a day. Would this humidity, and heat cycle have a bad affect on the wood?
A single fully charged fresh battery should provide at least a total of 10 full minutes of actual heating time. In real practice, the heating cycle tends to occur in 15 second increments (as advised in the product usage suggestions) and about 5 of these heating periods tend to be used per bowl filling. As such, a single charged battery should provide enough heat to vaporize at least 8 or 9 bowls worth.firstavailable said:how long does a single battery last on a full charge? How long to recharge?
Use the email address provided to the left of this post (you need to be logged into FC to see it). The testing is for a new product (not yet released) which has some significant and complementary differences from the Launch Tube. It is intended for somewhat different usage patterns than the Launch Tube itself, which will continue to be offered.firstavailable said:magicflight, for myself, coming from a technical background, I appreciate the way you are describing your product and addressing all questions and criticism in a professional and conclusive manner. I am interested in applying for the tester position. What email address should I send my "application" into? Or do you mean I should just send a PM to you on this forum?
lwien said:Ok, damn I wish I could just leave this stuff go, but I can't.
First off, Magic, I want to apologize in advance. I stated some opinions almost a month ago, and being that I said everything that I needed to say, I've stayed totally out of this thread since then, but I just gotta make an observation.
Firstavailable, I wrote some negative stuff regarding how the product was presented here, of what seems like an eternity ago. It was just a personal opinion, nothing more. Guess I just couldn't help it, coming from a marketing background.
But then, in one post, you drug up that old negative stuff I said, with the sole purpose of disagreeing with it, and then quickly followed it up for a request to be a tester.
I have no problem in defending my positions, for I kinda enjoy debating, but bringing that stuff up, countering it, and then immedialty asking for a beta unit sounds like a sales pitch that's just a bit transparent.
If you want to debate me fine, but please don't use me for ammo. I feel so.................used.
(Please don't take this too seriously. This was just on my mind, and I had to let out....)