Induction Heater MAD Heaters - Innovative Dynavap Accessories

Brenyo

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Still holding it. Put an email request into customs asking for an update and clarification. Told me to watch the website for updates (nada). Hoping I didn't just burn $125 šŸ˜µšŸ˜©
Sorry to hear that! :( Please get in touch in email with your order no, let me have a look. You'll either get the products or a refund if they won't deliver it as it'll just come back otherwise.
 

SirGanjaVapeAlot

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Sorry to hear that! :( Please get in touch in email with your order no, let me have a look. You'll either get the products or a refund if they won't deliver it as it'll just come back otherwise.
Cheers sir I appreciate it! I'll give you a holler ā˜ŗļø. I hope it somehow makes it through in the end
 
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rvarick

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DRAW RESISTANCE CONTROL (DRC)*​

ā€œHold the Cap by the sides of the Digger-Outer and slide it into the grooves on the top of the Airflow Tube - you can optionally use a flathead screwdriver or your nails.ā€

Received mine today. From the looks of the oring in the MP ā€œairflow tubeā€, it appears to be in the default mode, as described in the online manual, pasted above. (Non spinning)

QUESTION: Mine seems to be adjustable, just by turning the MP, NO NEED for a tool. Is this NORMAL?

Doesnā€™t appear to be any way to lock it at any given position, like FULL OPEN. The only way to visually see itā€™s fully open, is to look at the TINY NOTCH indicator on the airflow tube, near the two slots for cap or screwdriver.
I've had my spinning MP also turn the DRC after (incorrectly) lubing up the o-ring inside the cooling helix, and not putting enough wax/lube on the o-ring inside the mouthpiece. I'll also mention this happened with the green o-ring that was installed. My new Revolve has the black o-ring installed inside the stem, and I'm also careful now to NOT lube the inner o-ring, only the one under the mouthpiece.

If you haven't already, try ISO'ing the inner o-ring, or replacing it with a clean/dry one so it's not lubricated at all. And then, give the o-ring under the mouthpiece a good amount of wax. In theory, the spinning MP should move easily and not allow the DRC mechanism to move with it.
 

Brenyo

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only the one under the mouthpiece.

And then, give the o-ring under the mouthpiece a good amount of wax.
No, that's not how it's supposed to work hehe :D The o-ring should stop if from free spinning so don't lube it.
Just remove the o-ring completely from the tube or place it below the mouthpiece, there is a cavity there to store the o-ring if it's not in use.

Mouthpiece_spin_mode_480x480.jpg
 

RustyOldNail

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No, that's not how it's supposed to work hehe :D The o-ring should stop if from free spinning so don't lube it.
Just remove the o-ring completely from the tube or place it below the mouthpiece, there is a cavity there to store the o-ring if it's not in use.

Mouthpiece_spin_mode_480x480.jpg

Just to be clear, I was never looking to make the MP ā€œSPINā€, I only use an IH to heat. Originally, my MP was tight enough to inadvertently grab and move the DRC tube inside, and thus change my chosen setting. I left the unit in itā€™s shipped state, with the black oring inside, in the default upper position. I used a tiny amount of beeswax on that oring, and now the DRC no longer moves with the MP, if I touch the MP, which can happen often as I constantly use and adjust the airport adjustment ring, located right below the MP. Putting it in free spin mode, would probably be another way to disengage the MP from the DRC, but I wasnā€™t interested in having the MP spin. My DRC is now staying on my setting. Working great now, not going to mess with it.
 
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Momor

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Just to be clear, I was never looking to make the MP ā€œSPINā€, I only use an IH to heat. Originally, my MP was tight enough to inadvertently grab and move the DRC tube inside, and thus change my chosen setting. I left the unit in itā€™s shipped state, with the black oring inside, in the default upper position. I used a tiny amount of beeswax on that oring, and now the DRC no longer moves with the MP, if I touch the MP, which can happen often as I constantly use and adjust the airport adjustment ring, located right below the MP. Putting it in free spin mode, would probably be another way to disengage the MP from the DRC, but I wasnā€™t interested in having the MP spin. My DRC is now staying on my setting. Working great now, not going to mess with it.
Ok ! I was wondering how you could "accidentally" move the MP, but now I see.
I only use an IH also but really like spinning the stem in my hand between hits, like a fidget toy. I also like rotating the body to feather the airport while the MP doesn't move between my lips. The only downside of the free spinning setting is that there is a little play in the MP but that doesn't bother me at all.
Nice to see it's all good for you now :tup:
 

OGablogian

AKA Probeer
Had the same thing happen a few times when using new o-rings. Fixed itself with a few uses.

Though I think it would be pretty nice if this problem (turning the mouthpiece also controls the draw resistance) would be an extra functionality. Stick with me for a sec ...

I think we all use our Revolve in a way where we have our favourite settings dialed in? Airtube-choice (drc or direct), airpaths choice (the 3 modes) and with that also airhole size, overall draw resistance, ti or glass. So when I take a hit, the only thing I actually have to control (if I choose to) during the inhalation, is how much I cover the airhole. In that sense, the Revolve is a 'perfectly set and forget' device.

It could be nice to have the extra functionality of being able to control the overall draw resistance mid-inhalation, simply by using your lips to hold the mouthpiece in place while turning the body with your hand. A third mouthpiece-option: live draw resistance control. Simply by turning the entire mouthpiece, instead of doing it by turning the tube (pre-hit) with my thumbnail. This way, one could change the ratio between fresh air and vapor during the hit.

The easiest way to accomplish this, I think, would be to use a slightly (a few tenths of a mm?) thicker O ring (than the black one) in the connection between mouthpiece and airtube. And since switching the mouthpiece setting is a 'switching o-rings' type of deal anyways, I totally wouldn't mind having to put on a different one all together. Perhaps a different color to keep them apart from the normal (green and black) ones. Basically, to make the resistance between the mp and airtube bigger than the resistance between the airtube and helix. I think this could be a great addition to the already rich functionality of the revolve, without having to change the device itself. And I also wouldn't mind paying a few extra cents for the addition of a few thicker small o-rings.

(tried to replicate this 'problem' by using a black one between mp and tube, and a green one between tube and spiral), but after a few uses it still all worked normally)

Honestly it's even weirder. I just got an order from Dynavap and I explained to them what the devices were and sent them a link. I don't understand what is so different this time that they are giving me grief
The inconsistency of bureaucracy :'(
 
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RustyOldNail

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From the ā€œmanual pageā€ on their website:

ā€œThe 4th icon on the adjustment ring resembles the "Dual Helix" cooling path. We might have different style coolers in the future so this can help identify it.ā€

Looking at this setting in the glass stem, the airport hole is directly above the last open twist in the cooling helix.

Any one play with this ā€œoddballā€ setting, impressions?
 
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666Honeybadger

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Looking at this setting in the glass stem, the airport hole is directly above the last open twist in the cooling helix.

Any one play with this ā€œoddballā€ setting, impressions?

It's not really a different setting i think... It's set on the bypass-mode when you put the helix in that position.
 
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rvarick

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No, that's not how it's supposed to work hehe :D The o-ring should stop if from free spinning so don't lube it.
Just remove the o-ring completely from the tube or place it below the mouthpiece, there is a cavity there to store the o-ring if it's not in use.

Mouthpiece_spin_mode_480x480.jpg
To clarify (and I may have completely misunderstood what the OP was trying to do), I was talking about when the mouthpiece is in spinning mode, i.e. with the o-ring in the groove, not the stop position. In this configuration it's been my experience that it's important TO lube the o-ring in the groove at the end the mouthpiece tube (so the MP spins easily), but to NOT lube the o-ring inside the cooling helix; or the DRC tube will spin with the mouthpiece.

So lube this:
But not the one in here:
 
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TommyDee

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Mine took a weird turn. Already a day late and said it was out for delivery. Mail lady stopped by and just drove on. I catch up to her and ask about my delivery and all I got was a shrug. Then tracking shows 'ready for pickup at the post office'. Crap!
 
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Brenyo

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To clarify (and I may have completely misunderstood what the OP was trying to do), I was talking about when the mouthpiece is in spinning mode, i.e. with the o-ring in the groove, not the stop position. In this configuration it's been my experience that it's important TO lube the o-ring in the groove at the end the mouthpiece tube (so the MP spins easily), but to NOT lube the o-ring inside the cooling helix; or the DRC tube will spin with the mouthpiece.

So lube this:
But not the one in here:
No , I think that's still not it :D

This one you remove from there if you want it to spin (try to pinch it with your nails, it's not the easiest to take off). This o-ring provides friction to the inner wall of the MP in order to stop it from free spinning.

Mouthpiece_spin_mode_480x480.jpg

And if it's not on the end like it was on the 1st picture then you can place it here for storing it - or just remove completely if you never change it on the go. The o-ring on this picture will move up into the cavity on the bottom of the MP when you push everything in place which will not stop it from spinning.

Neither of them should be lubed šŸ™‚
 
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rvarick

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No , I think that's still not it :D

This one you remove from there if you want it to spin (try to pinch it with your nails, it's not the easiest to take off). This o-ring provides friction to the inner wall of the MP in order to stop it from free spinning.

Mouthpiece_spin_mode_480x480.jpg

And if it's not on the end like it was on the 1st picture then you can place it here for storing it - or just remove completely if you never change it on the go. The o-ring on this picture will move up into the cavity on the bottom of the MP when you push everything in place which will not stop it from spinning.

Neither of them should be lubed šŸ™‚
Alright, well now I'm really confused...so I actually remove the o-ring at the end if I want a spinning MP? Didn't glean that from anywhere in my case, and went with what worked via trial and error. Or I guess I'll just look forward to a more developed user manual in the future.
 
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Brenyo

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Alright, well now I'm really confused...so I actually remove the o-ring at the end if I want a spinning MP? Didn't glean that from anywhere in my case, and went with what worked via trial and error. Or I guess I'll just look forward to a more developed user manual in the future.
Yes, correct! That's actually what the manual said as well šŸ™‚ I just updated it a little, I hope it's slightly more understandable now

 
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TommyDee

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Today it landed! LOL ...And still don't know what happened. I was all set to drive to the edge of town to pick up my package as instructed this morning and it was in my mailbox just before noon. My wonderful wife had the wherewithal to email me to let me know. Someone needs to fire L, Dejoy. I blame him ;]
 

acstorfer

Take My Money Dammit!
Today it landed! LOL ...And still don't know what happened. I was all set to drive to the edge of town to pick up my package as instructed this morning and it was in my mailbox just before noon. My wonderful wife had the wherewithal to email me to let me know. Someone needs to fire L, Dejoy. I blame him ;]
Seeing how I haven't gotten an update since it came to the states I'm guessing I'm not getting it tomorrow. Definitely not the first time. In fact it's almost every time. I'll get an update tomorrow telling me it's coming Thursday or Friday, and then get it the day before they say.
 
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TommyDee

Vaporitor
I thought maybe there was some duty or tariff due or something. No, just bureaucracy tying itself into knots.

But you are right @acstorfer - this is happening a lot more than before DeJoy.
 
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acstorfer

Take My Money Dammit!
I thought maybe there was some duty or tariff due or something. No, just bureaucracy tying itself into knots.

But you are right @acstorfer - this is happening a lot more than before DeJoy.
Yeah. He came in with a measure that was gonna screw over a few states. Florida was listed as one of them. Thankfully I have lots of toys to keep me busy. Probably should clean my tip, even though I used it twice since the last scrub.
 
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RustyOldNail

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My package to USA, was obviously opened by I assume ā€œcustomsā€. Mad had used the kind of box that has that adhesive edge, and that glue is very sticky and secure. At first first I thought the box was just a bit crushed/deformed, and the contents were almost spilling out. On closer examination, I could tell, they pried the glued edges to open it, then let just closed it letting what was left of the glued edge barely hold the contents in, rather then bother to tape it securely. NOTE: to shippers, add some additional TAPE to packages, just so customers know when the package has been opened prior to delivery. Luckily nothing had fallen out of the open ends. Thanks USPS! :(
 
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TommyDee

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Mine was flattened as well and the super-goopy-devil's tape was barely connected. Mine is open and you can't tell it was ever sealed.

Note to Bren; securing the flap on the box with an extra piece of tape might be a good idea.

Besides, if the postal service needed to get into the box, don't they have to leave a note that it was inspected? I remember something like this happened once a long time ago.
 

Blackmore

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Long time lurker, first time poster šŸ˜ƒ.

I made an account specifically as a warning for my fellow EU residents. I ordered a Revolve stem at vapeurshop.com during the 420 sales, which cost 155ā‚¬ -20%, which was a pretty sweet deal. However, upon receipt I noticed a "FS" written on the cardboard tube. Along with the blemishes on the stem, I think I am sure they sold me a factory second stem for the standard price. When confronted, they first wanted to brush it off as scratches being normal part of the machining process. Really?

I am pretty pissed off about this but still, not to make false accusations, can someone here confirm this for me, does the FS on the cardboard stand for a "factory second"? Im like 99% sure though.
 
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