Discontinued Lily vaporizer by Triihouse
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Hello Everybody.
First and foremost, thank you all for being so supportive and understanding. You guys really remind of why I love what I do and why I love this industry.
Changes and why :
1. The first change we have made is widening up the walls of the space where the heat intake glass is stored.
Reasoning for this is to give a little more room so that you can twist the top and bottom pieces apart, to partially disconnect the magnets, before fully pulling the 2 pieces separate.
It just makes it easier to access your vaporizing chamber and heat intake from " standby " mode.
2. The second change made is we have added another " air-inlet " to the heat path, making 3 air inlets in total. An air inlet on each side and one in the center . The additional air inlet adds more ambient air to the heat path.
There are a few reasons that lead us to adding a 3rd air inlet; to sum it up into one word I would say that word is 'FLEXIBILITY'.
Quick, reliable, clouds....and some flexibility.
The way Lily is currently, I think works great. My instructions state to only cover the screen with enough herbs to cover it so you can operate Lily as intended. I made those the instructions fully knowing that a lot of people are not going to follow them (myself included). But if you have that screen just covered and all our other instructions are followed, you have your self a vaporizer that works.
There are a plethora of herbs out there with variations of different fat contents, structures, dankness levels, etc. Due to these variances we adapt and either add more or less herbage to our vaporizing chambers. We also adapt our heat level, grinding method, and drawing techniques due to all the differences in herbs.
When you over-load your Lily with herb, due to the fact that the airflow is more restricted and the herb it self is closer to the heat source, it raises the chances of scorching and ultimately can lead to the possibility of combustion. Even though I have not ever reached combustion myself, I have gotten some scorching that was not intentional. Yes I did have my heat high and my vaporizing chamber was more than half way filled.
That 3rd air inlet cools down the temperature. So with out COVERING any of the air inlets, you begin vaporizing with a lower vaporizing temperature, depending on your torch level and draw rate/duration.
Now speaking of COVERING air inlets. Yes, you can have them covered/plugged while drawing. What this action does is the opposite of adding more air inlets; it raises the heat temperature. You can block a side air inlet or both the side and center air inlet for higher heat settings. From my testing and trials, the "high heat" mode with 1 or 2 air inlets covered is necessary for concentrates.
With the addition of the 3rd air inlet and the ability to cover the air inlets for different heat settings, Lily becomes more flexible.
Thanks guys.
First and foremost, thank you all for being so supportive and understanding. You guys really remind of why I love what I do and why I love this industry.
Changes and why :
1. The first change we have made is widening up the walls of the space where the heat intake glass is stored.
Reasoning for this is to give a little more room so that you can twist the top and bottom pieces apart, to partially disconnect the magnets, before fully pulling the 2 pieces separate.
It just makes it easier to access your vaporizing chamber and heat intake from " standby " mode.
2. The second change made is we have added another " air-inlet " to the heat path, making 3 air inlets in total. An air inlet on each side and one in the center . The additional air inlet adds more ambient air to the heat path.
There are a few reasons that lead us to adding a 3rd air inlet; to sum it up into one word I would say that word is 'FLEXIBILITY'.
Quick, reliable, clouds....and some flexibility.
The way Lily is currently, I think works great. My instructions state to only cover the screen with enough herbs to cover it so you can operate Lily as intended. I made those the instructions fully knowing that a lot of people are not going to follow them (myself included). But if you have that screen just covered and all our other instructions are followed, you have your self a vaporizer that works.
There are a plethora of herbs out there with variations of different fat contents, structures, dankness levels, etc. Due to these variances we adapt and either add more or less herbage to our vaporizing chambers. We also adapt our heat level, grinding method, and drawing techniques due to all the differences in herbs.
When you over-load your Lily with herb, due to the fact that the airflow is more restricted and the herb it self is closer to the heat source, it raises the chances of scorching and ultimately can lead to the possibility of combustion. Even though I have not ever reached combustion myself, I have gotten some scorching that was not intentional. Yes I did have my heat high and my vaporizing chamber was more than half way filled.
That 3rd air inlet cools down the temperature. So with out COVERING any of the air inlets, you begin vaporizing with a lower vaporizing temperature, depending on your torch level and draw rate/duration.
Now speaking of COVERING air inlets. Yes, you can have them covered/plugged while drawing. What this action does is the opposite of adding more air inlets; it raises the heat temperature. You can block a side air inlet or both the side and center air inlet for higher heat settings. From my testing and trials, the "high heat" mode with 1 or 2 air inlets covered is necessary for concentrates.
With the addition of the 3rd air inlet and the ability to cover the air inlets for different heat settings, Lily becomes more flexible.
Thanks guys.
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Bvapst
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I never got a Daisy cause I can't buy every vaporizer I would. Another new flame-based vape is on my list since a long time. Keep it manual !
From now the Lily seems to be the one ! For home use I'm pretty covered. And I must say Lily looks more interesting to me than another flame based vape I was looking at.
Also, does everybody agree that a Lily would need less gas to use than a Lotus ? The fact you don't have to put the torch down and that there is direct contact between heat and load (no plate) would mean less gas loss. Lily might be my go-to Festivals/concerts vaporizer !
I'm not intending any comparison, they are both different beast and have each their + and -.
However, I'll look forward to the instructions from people using a Lotus as well.
I look forward a video too !
And I agree totally, big up to @TriiKLe Pictures are really helping us visitors of theTriihouse !
EDIT : I was placing an order for a Lily since it's an honest price... with some extra screens. But "OUCH" : the shipping cost are crazy for EU (50$). If anybody in EU want to order a Lily, we should get in touch ! Or is there any retailer who will carry Lily ?
From now the Lily seems to be the one ! For home use I'm pretty covered. And I must say Lily looks more interesting to me than another flame based vape I was looking at.
Also, does everybody agree that a Lily would need less gas to use than a Lotus ? The fact you don't have to put the torch down and that there is direct contact between heat and load (no plate) would mean less gas loss. Lily might be my go-to Festivals/concerts vaporizer !
I'm not intending any comparison, they are both different beast and have each their + and -.
However, I'll look forward to the instructions from people using a Lotus as well.
I look forward a video too !
And I agree totally, big up to @TriiKLe Pictures are really helping us visitors of theTriihouse !
EDIT : I was placing an order for a Lily since it's an honest price... with some extra screens. But "OUCH" : the shipping cost are crazy for EU (50$). If anybody in EU want to order a Lily, we should get in touch ! Or is there any retailer who will carry Lily ?
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Seasoned Senior
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I'm happy to wait as well. You can't rush art.
Bvapst, I have a Lotus. Fuel consumption isn't a problem. It doesn't take long to get that cap to the right temp. I'm anxious to compare them. I'm hoping the lighter usage is simpler with the Lily since it doesn't have to be upside-down. Also, I like my things to look just like the day I bought them (it's a disease) and my Lotus top will never look new. My Pax does. I loved my Vapman as well but a friend had to have it. I thought of replacing it, but shooting a flame at my hand is not a good idea in my profession. I debated for months about a Daisy. Then along came Lily.
Bvapst, I have a Lotus. Fuel consumption isn't a problem. It doesn't take long to get that cap to the right temp. I'm anxious to compare them. I'm hoping the lighter usage is simpler with the Lily since it doesn't have to be upside-down. Also, I like my things to look just like the day I bought them (it's a disease) and my Lotus top will never look new. My Pax does. I loved my Vapman as well but a friend had to have it. I thought of replacing it, but shooting a flame at my hand is not a good idea in my profession. I debated for months about a Daisy. Then along came Lily.
little maggie
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I'm really tempted after reading this. It looks like the price keeps going up and I'd like to get one before it goes any higher. But I never mastered the vapor genie which was my first attempt at a vape. It doesn't seem like most people had a problem with that one. Does Lily require any skill with the torch?
Bvapst
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Never used a Genie neither a Lily. But did you read the instructions on Triihouse website ? That's pretty much it. Anybody could explain you how to drive manual car, you still have to try by yourself. I think the genie needs more technique by reading the comments.
The variable of the torch are : the length of flame and the duration of ignition. I would say this gives more control than a simple bic lighter.
For the Lily you should start low with 1 inch flame. Like Triikle said, do not cover any holes, try to follow the instruction for low-temp and from there just try to go higher... If you get combustion...you will know the limit and will be able to analyze the mistake : too much of a load, too much flame, too long, breathing strength, how much holes covered, etc... Trial and errors makes for a master vaporist !
natural farmer
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The only thing that I can find wrong with Lily and Daisy is that they use glass and glass breaks. I wish I could see SS parts for everything if it still works as well...
basement farmer
My face is melting...
I can't speak for the Lily, but I was originally a little reluctant to purchase a Daisy because I imagined that it'd function much like the VGs I have laying around and I didn't really need yet another 'one'. Despite the similarities in heat source, the comparison ends there. The whole mechanism is different in terms of airpath and the end product is completely different as well.
My experience has been that using a torch is probably way more intuitive than most would expect and that you kind of have to go out of your way to burn a bowl with any torch driven vaporizor.....it doesn't "just happen" if your're half way careful and attentive.
The Lily obviously has a different air path and smaller barrel volume, so I don't anticipate it being the same as the Daisy (thanks to the current Lily owners for not giving out too may details) but I guess my point is, don't let preconceived notions deter you from giving it a try. I know that I can't wait.
I'd like to see some more metal parts available too, but the glass parts are very thick and durable, so as long as you don't drop it or whack it against something it should last a very long time. Besides, the replacement parts are very reasonably priced.
Jojobobosbrother
New Member
The only communication I received was that my ordered was "queued." trying to hide yet another vaporizor purchase from my wife, so I want to get to the mailbox before her. 
Anyone get tracking information once the lily shipped?
Anyone get tracking information once the lily shipped?
Mister G
Deceptively Old Fart
My Lily is on it's way, but Daisy's ease of use is very good, heck I used a Sublimator UFO with a plumber's propane torch for about 5 months, now THAT takes some diligence and precaution. Daisy is probably no worse and probably safer and easier than dabbing, IMO. I imagine the Lily is about the same save for the flame being a little bit closer to your face.
I think the heat intake must be glass, I'm not sure, but I think it would be harder to achieve the same convective properties necessary from metals that the boro glass provides. Maybe Tommy's experimented with it? Also, a lot of folks don't seem to like metal in their airpath.
I think the heat intake must be glass, I'm not sure, but I think it would be harder to achieve the same convective properties necessary from metals that the boro glass provides. Maybe Tommy's experimented with it? Also, a lot of folks don't seem to like metal in their airpath.
vaporonly
living in a van down by the river
Tommy experimented with a metal heat intake on the Daisy but wasn't satisfied with the results.
My guess is because the metal heats up faster then the glass, stealing some of the heat away from the vaping process.
For the unaware, the intake on both the daisy and the lily act as hot air guides more then actual heat transfer units....the hot air is coming from the torch not from the air being heated by a hot intake.
My guess is because the metal heats up faster then the glass, stealing some of the heat away from the vaping process.
For the unaware, the intake on both the daisy and the lily act as hot air guides more then actual heat transfer units....the hot air is coming from the torch not from the air being heated by a hot intake.
kimura
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I am really starting to hit my stride with this lovely Lily!
Mine did have a fairly strong smell/taste of the wood at first but it has mellowed substantially and now the flavor is very nice.
I'm getting great results from tamping the load down lightly so that the screen is totally covered, then using a "medium" draw speed with one of the two turb holes covered. it's a true "manual," so you can extract as aggressively as you want, but the vapor can get a bit hot on the throat if you get too crazy. I've found a nice comfortable balance, and I'm killing a load in 3-4 draws. It's a bit more of a "sipper" than Daisy (more like Daisy-cutter if you ask me...), which is a nice change of pace.
I know you can sip on the Daisy too, but it just never happens, lol
EDIT: just did another session... I guess I am using a pretty fast draw, and I can't really call Lily a "sipper" when she is killing a load in 3 draws. But I can say she is very efficient! Lily's bowl is not large. A load that just covers the screen gives 3 very nice clouds and strong effects. effects are excellent, similar to Daisy
Mine did have a fairly strong smell/taste of the wood at first but it has mellowed substantially and now the flavor is very nice.
I'm getting great results from tamping the load down lightly so that the screen is totally covered, then using a "medium" draw speed with one of the two turb holes covered. it's a true "manual," so you can extract as aggressively as you want, but the vapor can get a bit hot on the throat if you get too crazy. I've found a nice comfortable balance, and I'm killing a load in 3-4 draws. It's a bit more of a "sipper" than Daisy (more like Daisy-cutter if you ask me...), which is a nice change of pace.
I know you can sip on the Daisy too, but it just never happens, lol
EDIT: just did another session... I guess I am using a pretty fast draw, and I can't really call Lily a "sipper" when she is killing a load in 3 draws. But I can say she is very efficient! Lily's bowl is not large. A load that just covers the screen gives 3 very nice clouds and strong effects. effects are excellent, similar to Daisy
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little maggie
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Ordered. I don't really need stealth but I miss having a small vape. I had to give up the MFLB because it was too harsh. I may end up getting the Daisy. Do they use the same stems? I'll probably end up getting a wood one from Ed.
vaporonly
living in a van down by the river
The lily mouthpiece is the same diameter are the daisy intake stem but the daisy stem is longer.
Not that you would want a wooden intake stem though....
little maggie
Well-Known Member
Why would I not want a wood intake stem?
vaporonly
living in a van down by the river
natural farmer
Well-Known Member
I wonder how cool the hits of Lily are compared to the Lotus...
Mister G
Deceptively Old Fart
I do love Triihouse but they are exceptionally discomboomerated right now. Lost my order, found my order, sorry one week late, oh you didn't pay, wait you did pay, sorry one more week late. I still don't know what the hell is going on. Please get your act together Triihouse you have teased me enough.
Not making excuses for Tommy, but I think it's small business growing pains. He maybe even wanted to release the Lily a bit slower, but then maybe someone let the cat out of the bag here too soon and he pulled the trigger. These are just guesses, not real info. I've been involved in a few startup product launches and they are never smooth despite best intentions, something always throws a monkey wrench in, but you want to make customers happy, but even that can get you into trouble. The changes he made to the design I'm sure are contributing, but the tradeoff is an improved product.
I hope it gets sorted and you get your Lily soon @steama
I want my Lily too, but I have enough to keep me patient, especially since I have Daisy to keep me happy, I even told him to take care of other priority customers before he even looks at shipping mine to me, so I hope in at least some small way that helps expedite yours and others' orders.
uhmod
Well-Known Member
Is this just your particular order, or do you know if most of the Lily orders will be shipped out next week?
h3rbalist
I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too
Not sure. At a guess I would say everyone will start receiving Lilys next week depending on your order number. I was 541 I think.