i think the Cloud is the evolution of the LSV/VHW. i haven't tried the cloud yet but from what i've heard it a much improved design over the LSV.
How is the Cloud a “evolution” or a “much improved design” ?
I don't really think the LSV and Cloud are even that similar, and definitely don’t think the cloud is as versatile with water pieces or glass wands. The current LSV heater cover is spherical ground glass that fits ball and socket with their water pipe adapter bowl. The heater cover also accepts 18mm GonG male connection for glass wands and other adapters and possibilities. Not to mention the exposed heating element.. the possibilities are endless.
I have seen the videos and I read the Cloud thread daily. I have read the Cloud has advanced heat retention but I have never had a problem with the LSV heat even with hours of party use.
The whole Cloud concept is questionable to me just because its primarily designed to have a water filled glass tube sit on top of the electronic heating source. What if someone coughs while taking a hit? Not to mention the Cloud looks very awkward when used upside down with any normal piece of glass and not their hydra-tube.
on a side note... a true evolution in my opinion would be the LSV design in something smaller and battery operated (fuel cell ?!?!)
i guess i really shouldn't of commented on the subject since i haven't tried the Cloud yet. but come tomorrow i will know the truth.
but to me the cloud is kinda an evolution, by evolution i just mean an improvement on an existing idea.
Not trying to derail the LSV thread with Cloud talk but comparisons are very important.
Really curious on your reasons of how the Cloud is an improvement? What aspect/s of the Cloud is improved over the LSV?