Life Saber (LSV) by Elev8 Vehicles

[mixchu69]

With that M2M, i'd start at just under 12 and see how my first hit felt.
If you have any issues, just post or PM me. I am located on your island, so can offer official repairs and such much quicker.

I also highly recommend the WPA, i had two spares but i gave them to another member. Ill get some extra sent in soon.

WPA is a game changer.

I have always liked a bit of conduction too. Do you think the small titanium screens 7th floor sell will suffice or should I get the ceramic flavor disc?

 

[Herb-nerd]

WPA is a game changer.

I have always liked a bit of conduction too. Do you think the small titanium screens 7th floor sell will suffice or should I get the ceramic flavor disc?

To be honest, anything that is inert and a disk with holes will work!
I haven't tried anything but the ceramic disk as i have tonnes, plus i can still stick a dab on there and hit it as per.

If you are reaaaaly good at using rotary tools like a dremel, you can get two disks from one by cutting it in half and then filling down the edges to give more of a hemisphere.

 

[delloy]

My LSV arrived the other day. One word. WOW! And at the price I got mine for @ £115 in the UK an absolute bargain! Was missing the stir tool/pick from the package but thats no biggie.

On the first heat up I used the included wand and got some huge and very tasty clouds, I was impressed dribbly and sweaty...haha.

I then tried it using an 18mm M/M through my FC-187v2 which I didnt like. I found the can too big for my tastes and would prefer something smaller with a bit more restriction. I have been using the CCG decycler which has been working nicely, but was wondering if anyone could recommend a nice small sized bubbler for use with the LSV.

The only thing Im disliking is the way the heater cover attaches to the unit. As many others have mentioned mine is also off centre and with my OCD this annoys me somewhat. Also I have to constantly adjust it so it fits snugly back up to the underside of the cap as everytime I invert it on my glass connection it eventually pushes the heater cover back down inside the unit causing it to rattle about slightly. Anybody have a fix for this?

I have tried adjusting the shim but it still wont hold firm and the method of pulling the heater cover out, so it just protrudes and then screwing on the end cap, but after a few uses it has shifted again! I see on the Super Surfer the shim has been altered and has a retaining clip to one side, would this work on an LSV and would it be possible to get hold of one as this issue is annoying me. Perhaps @Herb-nerd and a few of the experts here might be able to help me with some suggestions for a fix.

Looking forward to more experimentation and want to try the WPA too! Let me know soon as you have some in stock for UK peeps @Herb-nerd

Other than that......its Sunday so less chat more medication

 

[lwien]

...was wondering if anyone could recommend a nice small sized bubbler for use with the LSV.

http://www.dhgate.com/product/d020-...tor-smoking/187214099.html#s1-0-1b|1607640845

 

[delloy]

Thanks @lwien will check that out shortly.

Just been looking on the 7th floor website at accessories and spares. The LSV heater cover had an old version and new version whats the difference one states "old style (long)", "new style (short)" is it just a difference in length or are there other changes and why the change?

Edit: Just had a look at the bubbler @lwien. It looks fairly similiar to the FC187 I have below.

Is the volume of the can smaller in any way? If anyone has both and could do a side by side comparison pic it would be most appreciated

http://www.dhgate.com/product/2014-new-matrix-sidecar-glass-bong-birdcage/214701656.html

 

[howie105]

When trying to remove the slack from the LSV heater cover I have tried three different approaches with various levels of success. On one LSV I took a silicone baking sheet and cut a spacer/washer to fit inside the screw on shroud cap. it helps keep the heater cover from rattling around as much and to a degree it keeps it centred. Don't get carried away too thick of a spacer will overload the heater base and push it down into the LSV body.

Another approach is the old factory method, using a shim to expand the collar the heater cover grips. I don't know if those are still available from the factory or not. Last time I used this method I used a old collar out of a dead LSV to cut the shim from.

Last but not least of the home fixes is using some high temp silicon sealer to put a few gripper dots on the inside of the heater cover, takes up a little of the slack and it is gripper but if it doesn’t work it is a pain so clean off the inside of the heater cover and some folks have a problem with silicone that close to the air path.

If all that fails you can send it back because it is just not working as designed and let 7th floor deal with the problem, but then you got to be without your LSV, never a good thing. Enjoy

 

[lwien]

Is the volume of the can smaller in any way?

D 020-d is smaller. Don't have a pic to compare but I'm sure that there are others here who may.

 

[delloy]

I was thinking the problem with the heater cover is it seems a little too short on mine by 4-5mm. I fiddled with the shim to make it fit a little tighter which it now does but it doesn't stay in place and just slips back and sits on the 3 screwheads at the base of the heater unit with repeated use.

Those 3 screws what do they hold and how long are they? Perhaps I could just unscrew slightly to raise the screw heads ever so slightly retighten the end cap carefully until snug then the HC would rest/sit on those and wouldnt slip back and forth and everything would be rattle free and the HC centred ....thoughts?

 

[Tweak]

I sold my FC187 also because it was too big, I have no problem with the one you linked. It's actually my fav.

 

[Herb-nerd]

My LSV arrived the other day. One word. WOW! And at the price I got mine for @ £115 in the UK an absolute bargain! Was missing the stir tool/pick from the package but thats no biggie.

On the first heat up I used the included wand and got some huge and very tasty clouds, I was impressed dribbly and sweaty...haha.

I then tried it using an 18mm M/M through my FC-187v2 which I didnt like. I found the can too big for my tastes and would prefer something smaller with a bit more restriction. I have been using the CCG decycler which has been working nicely, but was wondering if anyone could recommend a nice small sized bubbler for use with the LSV.

The only thing Im disliking is the way the heater cover attaches to the unit. As many others have mentioned mine is also off centre and with my OCD this annoys me somewhat. Also I have to constantly adjust it so it fits snugly back up to the underside of the cap as everytime I invert it on my glass connection it eventually pushes the heater cover back down inside the unit causing it to rattle about slightly. Anybody have a fix for this?

I have tried adjusting the shim but it still wont hold firm and the method of pulling the heater cover out, so it just protrudes and then screwing on the end cap, but after a few uses it has shifted again! I see on the Super Surfer the shim has been altered and has a retaining clip to one side, would this work on an LSV and would it be possible to get hold of one as this issue is annoying me. Perhaps @Herb-nerd and a few of the experts here might be able to help me with some suggestions for a fix.

Looking forward to more experimentation and want to try the WPA too! Let me know soon as you have some in stock for UK peeps @Herb-nerd

Other than that......its Sunday so less chat more medication

One thing i suggest if it appears to slack, is to put a flathead in between the gap in the metal heater stand and pry it open just a touch. Enough to increase its diameter so that it keeps a snug fit.
i position my heater in the metal cap and put that into the heater stand, then slide the spacer or sleeve over that (if it isn't a snug fit, squeeze it a little to make sure its structural rigidity keeps it hugged to the stand.

I slide this sleeve down until about 2 mm (maybe less or more) is above the metal cap, then use pliers or your finger to bend the top corners of this inwards and on-top of the metal cap.
This way the sleeve stops the cap from moving - by keeping it pushed down.
The glass then holds the sleeve in place pushed to the heater stand and stopping it from slipping around. Though this depends on the heater stand - if it isn't wide enough to press to the glass and keep everything tight - try making it ever so larger using a flathead or any other tools.

There shouldn't need to be a worry about how careful you are, the metal pieces can be bent and re-bent quite a few times.

However - anyone doing this will be messing with the electrical insulation on the heating element, possibly sliding it down inadvertently. Be sure your element terminals are properly sheathed and remember not to pull your heater up once installed (assuming you position it appropriately originally) as this will end up unsheathing your terminals and the unit will POP in synchrony with the death of its triac.

Believe me - i had mine out of its housing yesterday when i was playing with a new idea and accidentally shorted my heater terminals to the grounded housing i still had my control circuit in.

I kept the control circuit in my unit as it was grounded and properly fixed, using the heater outside of the housing - if i didn't take this precaution and keep the grounding, i could of been nothing but a memory today.

If you do play with the heater, please - for the love of [insert prophet here] don't open the unit up and play around with the cables.

You can re-adjust the heater without issue, do it with the unit off and take the precautions above.
Though if you do, you may be responsible for the destruction of your control circuit. But this will be avoided if you don't pull the heater up too far.

To check, take off the heater stand cap and you can pull the heater up, check where the sheaths lay on the heater and how they cover the terminals. Position them so that you still have 5-10mm covering the terminals at least, then slide the cap back on while the heater is out of the stand.

Stop when the cap touches the sheath and make note of where the cap is on the heater ( i use calipers and measure the distance). Your terminals are still 5-10mm from the cap AT LEAST. More the safer.

When you then go to reposition the heater, or play with the shims because you spilled wax from the SSV Oil diffuser all over the LSV - you can make sure you never pull the heater past where it should be and thereby save the unit from failing.

Sorry for seeming alarmist, but i dont want to see anyone get hurt inadvertently. This risk lies in opening any consumer electrical device and house wiring etc, but when you are blazed and just broke you tool to get more so - you must remind yourself you be careful.

If you are a tinkerer and possibly pulled your heater up - be aware of all written above and maybe follow the steps to reposition the heater by re-sheathing its terminals so you can be sure to have it positioned correctly.

 

[delloy]

Im not fiddling with the ceramic heater at all that isnt the issue, its the constantly moving HC causing me grief and these shims. Would it be possible to take some photos of your shims and how you bend them to stop the HC slipping. I just want it to fit centred behind the end cap and then not have to adjust it after each use because it keeps slipping back into the body.

edit: @Herb-nerd followed your instructions best as I could and that seems to have done the trick

Will report back after a bit more experimentation

 

[Herb-nerd]

Im not fiddling with the ceramic heater at all that isnt the issue, its the constantly moving HC causing me grief and these shims. Would it be possible to take some photos of your shims and how you bend them to stop the HC slipping. I just want it to fit centred behind the end cap and then not have to adjust it after each use because it keeps slipping back into the body.

edit: @Herb-nerd followed your instructions best as I could and that seems to have done the trick

Will report back after a bit more experimentation

Glad to hear, we blow our glass in house and although our glass blowers are highly talented - they are not as precise as machines.
Im working to remedy this and believe to have simple answer i just realized today, but ill need to investigate more.

I needed to stress the safety of moving the heater, as doing so can cause the unit to fail. If anyone has opened their unit and fiddled without due care then does this, they could be in for a nasty shock.
I know how much we all like to fiddle in this community, so i feel i need to warn those who open their units to be aware.

let me know if you have any more issues, glad the tips works - but still it annoys me not to see straight lines, even in my head when writing on forums haha.

 

[Just some guy13]

http://www.dhgate.com/product/d020-...tor-smoking/187214099.html#s1-0-1b|1607640845

Would the 19mm WPA be the correct adaptor for that bubbler? Ordering my LSV and bubbler soon and don't want to screw anything up lol. Thanks in advance for any help

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Would the 19mm WPA be the correct adaptor for that bubbler? Ordering my LSV and bubbler soon and don't want to screw anything up lol. Thanks in advance for any help

Yep

And that bubbler will come with a m2m so you can try both ways

 

[Just some guy13]

Yep

And that bubbler will come with a m2m so you can try both ways

Awesome! I can't wait to try them both since there doesn't seem to be a consesus in the WPA vs M2M debate. To each his own perhaps

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Awesome! I can't wait to try them both since there doesn't seem to be a consesus in the WPA vs M2M debate. To each his own perhaps

I like them both -
I prefer a m2m when using it with a claisen or some other type of carb setup, and the stock WPA if using a non-carbed setup

 

[The Caveman]

I have a DBV do you guys think the LSV is a worthy upgrade from it?
I just want a nice water setup

 

[Tweak]

LSV is a worthy upgrade from it?

If your intentions is using it through water, then yes the LSV and DBV compliment each other great. I still use both my SSV and LSV.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

I have a DBV do you guys think the LSV is a worthy upgrade from it?
I just want a nice water setup

That's tough to say. Both the DBV and the LSV have similar heaters and work the same - you will be comfortable using it. But the real difference between the two is the form factor. Are you interested in this form factor? Or do you really like whips?

If you're looking for an "upgrade" you might want to consider a vaporizer from a different manufacturer (spice things up a bit, why keep with the same heater technology - there are so many other ways to vape your herb!). Maybe check out the E-Nano

 

[hoptimum]

If your intentions is using it through water, then yes the LSV and DBV compliment each other great. I still use both my SSV and LSV.

I think they're pretty complementary; the LSV is very versatile. Plus you can use the DBV wand in the LSV for direct draw.

 

[Frederick McGuire]

That's tough to say. Both the DBV and the LSV have similar heaters and work the same - you will be comfortable using it. But the real difference between the two is the form factor. Are you interested in this form factor? Or do you really like whips?

If you're looking for an "upgrade" you might want to consider a vaporizer from a different manufacturer (spice things up a bit, why keep with the same heater technology - there are so many other ways to vape your herb!). Maybe check out the E-Nano

Isn't the e-nano essentially just a smaller sized heater setup of the LSV?
That's how I've always heard it described as far as I can remember.
I got to use a friends enano a couple of times and I really didn't get they hype...

It's a nice log - but that's it... (IMO)
I don't really see any reason for it to get any more or less love than an underdog or HI for example...

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Isn't the e-nano essentially just a smaller sized heater setup of the LSV?
That's how I've always heard it described as far as I can remember.
I got to use a friends enano a couple of times and I really didn't get they hype...

It's a nice log - but that's it... (IMO)
I don't really see any reason for it to get any more or less love than an underdog or HI for example...

True, but it's a different vape. It's much more efficient than the LSV/DBV configurations. I only suggested the Nano because it's like a mini LSV (similar in function, easier to handle).

There are other options out there, but I'm not quite sure I personally would call the LSV an "Upgrade" from the DBV

 

[Frederick McGuire]

True, but it's a different vape. It's much more efficient than the LSV/DBV configurations. I only suggested the Nano because it's like a mini LSV (similar in function, easier to handle).

There are other options out there, but I'm not quite sure I personally would call the LSV an "Upgrade" from the DBV

I only asked because you mentioned trying different heater setups, the recommended a vape with the same style heater only smaller

My SSV has essentially been collecting dust since I got my lsv (few years now, ssv was my main daily driver before that and it was my 1st vape ) Imo it's definitely an upgrade
IF
your primary usage pattern is through a water pipe.

For dry hits there are pros and cons between all 3 DBV/SSV/LSV, but specifically for water pipe usage, Imo it's a distinct upgrade

 

[hoptimum]

True, but it's a different vape. It's much more efficient than the LSV/DBV configurations. I only suggested the Nano because it's like a mini LSV (similar in function, easier to handle).

There are other options out there, but I'm not quite sure I personally would call the LSV an "Upgrade" from the DBV

I use a log (UD/HI) when I want one great tasting rip and the LSV/SSV when I'm looking for a 4-hit or so session. With the LSV you get at least 3 WPA options, plus the transfer or SSV/DBV GG wand. So its versatile. You can get by with a very small amount of herb in the 18mm M2M WPA. Not as small as the log, but pretty small.

 

[fidget]

The flavour disks are on our site, might be worth picking up a few with any future orders and filling them down a little as i did.
Alternatively - i have some i can send to Uk residents

would love one - pm sent