Monk Debate
The monks do be debatin’
Has anyone been able to compare this to the Carta?
KandyPens Oura
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At this point, I think unless your atomizer comes DOA youre going to be shit out of luck getting a replacement from them
Summer
Long Island, NY
You don't know this yet - too early to tell how their CS will be for this vape. Right now, this seems like it could be a contender to the Carta & Peak. So one would think they don't want to tarnish it with bad CS. If they are smart, they won't deny any legitimate warranty claims. Time will tell. Stick around.
Carta compared to the oura:
Pros: Cheaper, Bluetooth temp control, replaceable batteries, Rebuildable Atomizer, also works with herbs, Support from the glass community with 3rd party accessories and glass attachments being made
Cons: Longer metal vapor path that is harder to clean
Oura just came out so im sure there will be 3rd party attachments and accessories coming soon. They both heat up really fast which i am not really a fan of as it seems to scorch the oil in the process I prefer the more gradual heat up of the peak
Justpassedu
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Do you happen to own a Oura ? You can use a lower heat setting to achieve a cooler hit similar to that longer heat up the peak gives you , only you are there much quicker with the Oura if that is something that may worry you . I been using it for some time now and also have a peak since release . Also the included ceramic bucket rather than the quartz will give you what your looking for with the Oura , it takes longer to heat .
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I have not used it, that is just my experience from using the carta with its rapid heat up. Someone that owns the oura had a similar complaint.
Its not really a cooler hit im looking for, I still want vapor and clouds, i just feel like the rapid heat up skips and burns away some of the lower temperature terpenes and flavor
shredder
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Adjustable wattage like a mod has would fix that. Or at least give you options.
In my saionara, using my mod, it's a trade off between high wattage, speed and splatter, or lower wattage and longer heat up but less splatter. I like being able to adjust that myself.
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jeffcoleland
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I’ve been following this thread because I’ve been looking to purchase. I just Instagram messaged Kandypens. I asked them if they would replace the coils for free if they stopped working from normal wear. This is their response, “Yes, We don’t nickel and dime customers like other companies do. If you invest a lot of money in a product you shouldn’t have to buy faulty replacement parts.”
So they replace coils under lifetime warranty for life! Yea, I just bought one.
So they replace coils under lifetime warranty for life! Yea, I just bought one.
Monk Debate
The monks do be debatin’
Well color me impressed!
Traveler
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I might wait till they actually add that before i switch 8DMe too, guess which one of these devices just went to the top of my list.
They should update their site to say;
Lifetime Warranty(All parts, including coils)
ohmygodimsohigh
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I've been enjoying my Oura
I really like the build and the shape and the color options, and that it came with quartz installed instead of titanium or ceramic.
I'm not a fan of the touch-button. The base of the unit is small and compact and I'm CONSTANTLY touching the button and either ending my hit or changing the temp.
I haven't noticed anything to complain about in the vapor path. It appears to be silicone from the atomizer all the way to the glass.
The atomizer is a cool design and I've been abusing it harder than usual to see if I can get it to fail. The only issue I had was when it arrived the heating coils were bent down a bit and it heated up more slowly.
I don't mind the Oura hits. It doesn't hit as hard or quick as the Carta, but it will get hot enough to give you that burnt oil taste on the hottest setting.
My device functions considerably better with a different carb cap (namely, an empty 1g jar)
I really like the build and the shape and the color options, and that it came with quartz installed instead of titanium or ceramic.
I'm not a fan of the touch-button. The base of the unit is small and compact and I'm CONSTANTLY touching the button and either ending my hit or changing the temp.
I haven't noticed anything to complain about in the vapor path. It appears to be silicone from the atomizer all the way to the glass.
The atomizer is a cool design and I've been abusing it harder than usual to see if I can get it to fail. The only issue I had was when it arrived the heating coils were bent down a bit and it heated up more slowly.
I don't mind the Oura hits. It doesn't hit as hard or quick as the Carta, but it will get hot enough to give you that burnt oil taste on the hottest setting.
My device functions considerably better with a different carb cap (namely, an empty 1g jar)
Justpassedu
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I like mine also . The button is touch sensitive, I had that same issue but got used to it quick so I try to keep my finger away while hitting it and learned all the presses now. There is a guy on Instagram making a sort of cover so you can’t hit it that is 3D printed , they go by zc_glass .
ohmygodimsohigh
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Oh nice, zc glass is on the ball. They have a lot of cool accessories. I have the one-handed operation knob for the blazer big-shot, got it from them.
Niiizy_503
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Just ordered one of these beauts.. Went w/ the black, would have gotn a color if they weren’t all so light n easter egg shade. Ive had both the Peak (3 of em lol) and Switch since pre-sales, and have been putting my Carta through the ringer since I got it a couple months ago. Really looking forward to putting this thing to work, and really comparing the performance to the Peak n Carta. The super quick heat up time n high ass temps makes me think it’ll prob be closer to the Carta. I was really on the fence about buying this since I already have so many e-rigs on hand, but after checkn out the specs n how well it was made, then seeing it comes w/ a lifetime warranty, I was sold! Will post comparisons once it arrives
Niiizy_503
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My Oura arrived today, first impressions...
Out of the box you can immediately feel how beefy n sturdy the base is. The glass piece wasn’t as nice or thick as I was hoping it would be, compared to the Carta especially, but its still cool. The bowl size is very similar to the Peak, its not quite as deep, but its a little bit wider. The carb caps for both the Oura n Peak are pretty compatible, My EQ marble peak cap is the perfect size for it. The sensor button is definitely touchy, but Im getting used to it.
The coil heats up reallly fast, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the quartz bucket is at a good dabbing temp yet, since the heating source doesnt have as much contact coverage as the ceramic plate on a Peak for example. It does have haptic feedback, but i wish it would vibrate to let u know when your at your dabbing temp, similar to how the Peak does. With the Oura, u just double tap it, n the lights dim n glow n let u know its heating, but theres nothing to let u know that its ready, u just kind of have to time it yourself. Ive noticed im getting milkier hits, if i dab it, opposing to cold loading it like a Peak and Carta. When i cold load, so far the hits have been kinda whispy on the first go round. Ive noticed it hitting a lot better on the 2nd round when the dish still has some heat in it. Ive only been playing with it for a few hours, n im sure Ill get it dialed in better.
So far its a nice piece. The quality and build feel great, n its definitely a nice addition to the collection. As of now I still prefer the way the Peak operates, but with a little tinkering, and a glass upgrade, the Oura has some serious potential.
Out of the box you can immediately feel how beefy n sturdy the base is. The glass piece wasn’t as nice or thick as I was hoping it would be, compared to the Carta especially, but its still cool. The bowl size is very similar to the Peak, its not quite as deep, but its a little bit wider. The carb caps for both the Oura n Peak are pretty compatible, My EQ marble peak cap is the perfect size for it. The sensor button is definitely touchy, but Im getting used to it.
The coil heats up reallly fast, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the quartz bucket is at a good dabbing temp yet, since the heating source doesnt have as much contact coverage as the ceramic plate on a Peak for example. It does have haptic feedback, but i wish it would vibrate to let u know when your at your dabbing temp, similar to how the Peak does. With the Oura, u just double tap it, n the lights dim n glow n let u know its heating, but theres nothing to let u know that its ready, u just kind of have to time it yourself. Ive noticed im getting milkier hits, if i dab it, opposing to cold loading it like a Peak and Carta. When i cold load, so far the hits have been kinda whispy on the first go round. Ive noticed it hitting a lot better on the 2nd round when the dish still has some heat in it. Ive only been playing with it for a few hours, n im sure Ill get it dialed in better.
So far its a nice piece. The quality and build feel great, n its definitely a nice addition to the collection. As of now I still prefer the way the Peak operates, but with a little tinkering, and a glass upgrade, the Oura has some serious potential.
Can some one explain the appeal of this product to me? I know the company themselves is pretty reliable, however can someone explain the reasoning why the temps are so insanely high? Are they needed for the quartz and ceramic? :/ Truly racking my brain trying to figure out if they know something about temps that I don't or if they are just only concerned about cloud chasers?
kuzko
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Are you talking about the stated temperatures in the manual? Or from experience? I don’t find the temperatures too hot at all. In fact, out of the four temperature choices I would say only the hottest one gets anywhere near too hot. If you are talking about the temperature numbers that the manual indicates this could mean that the physical heating element is getting that hot, but it doesn’t necessarily mean the quartz bucket is getting that hot. Temperature setting for most vapes are arbitrary because there are so many other factors like draw speed and heat loss through materials or actual oil. Just find which temperature settings work for you and go with that.
Niiizy_503
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So far from my experience with it, these listed temps definitely arent what the actual temp of the bowl is. For example, on red setting on a Peak, which is supposedly 600, I get wayy milkier hits, and it seems to vape my trates more efficiently then even the red setting on the Oura, which is listed as a lot more then 600. I dont know how fond I am of the heating element on the Oura so far. I feel like the thin wires doesnt give the quartz dish enough coverage to transfer heat.
kuzko
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I feel you there. A donut coil or flat ceramic coil under the quartz would probably be better. Wishful thinking is maybe KandyPens comes up with more atomizer designs for the Oura.
Niiizy_503
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Ive been thinkin the same thing. An atomizer upgrade/redesign with a new heating element would really take this thing up a notch. Otherwise this is a really nice device. The build quality is A+, n the way the atomizer is recessed into where it screws in is a nice touch. It feels insanely sturdy in hand, like its very well made. The glass is a little sub par imo tho. Cant wait to see when some glass upgrades will be poppin up.
That makes a lot more sense, thank you so much. I'm coming from a Carta where I thought 650 was too high for me lol. So that was where I was getting confused then, the temps stated aren't that of the dish inside, but how hot the actual heating element gets. Is there any way or some rule of thumb you can use to decipher how much a 900 degree f heating element will transfer to the ceramic or quartz dishes? Do they put down any of the secondary heat temps(meaning what the dish reaches to)? This thing has certainly peaked my interest(no pun intended) so just trying to decipher as much information as I can before deciding
kuzko
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If that is the case here, I’m not sure that anyone has calculated that for these types of atomizers. But that would certainly be helpful. I know some members of this forum have tools for measuring the temperature of vaporizer chambers while in use so maybe we’ll get lucky.
You too can measure oven/bowl temps for as little as $5;
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TM902C-LCD-K-Type-Thermometer-Temperature-Meter-Probe-Thermocouple-Probe-AU/302191561978?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&var=601035452736&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Has anyone else had any issues with the oura? I received the oura I ordered yesterday. I turned it on, used it once, then went to restart the cycle and it just blinked red 3 times. All the other functions work fine and it's fully charged. Every single time I try to start the heating cycle it does this now. I'm very confused and sad because I really liked it. I would greatly appreciate it if anyone has any input on why my device is doing this!