Herb Grinders

Aimless Ryan

Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
Man, none of my stuff is anywhere near that color. I was thinking the color of my kief looked too green, but now I know. The frustrating thing, perhaps, is that I have used so many different screens, but nothing has come out that color.
 
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EverythingsHazy

EverythingsHazy

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The screen used is the bottom of a "Free Gift"4-Piece Metal Grinder from VaporFiend. By itself, the grinder is decent, pretty sturdy, but gives a coarser grind than I like. I just use bottom now.

Are you rubbing the bud against the screen to scrape the trichs off? If so, that might be causing the darker color. I would think that method would get more plant matter grated into the kief through the screen, than just letting it fall through as the grinder is moved around and as you use the bud sitting in it. Also, what kind of grinder are you using, and how coarse are you grinding your bud?

If you vape a pure bowl of the kief, it can produce a bunch of huge clouds, and it tastes noticeably different than regular ground bud. I think it is the higher THC ratio, but it tastes a little bit like a cannabis vape pen cartridge. It hits a hell of a lot harder tho, lol. Also, if you put a couple millimeters of it in a GonG on a fine screen, and tamp it a bit, very little gets pulled through the screen when you hit it. Just have the heat applied when you start hitting so the hot air makes it get stick together. For several hits, it will have the consistency of that Moon Sand stuff they sell on tv for kids. It ends up looking very dark brown, almost black, and very powdery when done. It doesn't get gooey or sticky.

EverythingsHazy said:
In general, even for 2-piece users, keeping parts 3 and 4 from a 4 piece grinder, and putting your ground bud in there to hold while you have your sessions, and in between sessions if you grind more than you use in one sitting, will collect you a nice amount of kief, without making any noticeable changes to the herb's potency. Each hit is barely changed.
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Aimless Ryan

Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
@EverythingsHazy I had been using a 5-piece Diamond Grind for a while, until recently. Which I'd call a very functional grinder, especially in the sifting department.

I also have four Santa Cruz Shredder 4-pieces, including one with a screen that only lets nearly-microscopic material through. I have been using a small 4-piece SCS lately (with a fairly coarse screen).

Now that I think about it, it seems one of my cheap headshop grinders may contain some blonder kief. I'll have to take a look whenever I remember where I put those grinders.

I don't make any effort to force anything through the screen. When I use the 5-piece grinder, I do shake it a little after grinding, but I don't put a coin in it or anything.

I haven't been too concerned about kief lately, and I may never be again, but I am still interested in figuring out why I don't seem to end up with kief that's anywhere near as blonde as yours.

I think I know the taste you're talking about. It's probably the same taste as what I guess you'd call grinder hash.
 
IAmKrazy2

IAmKrazy2

Darth Vapor
Alright, I want a new good value grinder. The bigger the better. I am actually thinking a simple two piece may be ideal. I already have a few 4 piece ones. I am looking for a little more corse grind, not super powder.

Any suggestions for best values would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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KeVo23

KeVo23

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IAmKrazy2 said:
Alright, I want a new good value grinder. The bigger the better. I am actually thinking a simple two piece may be ideal. I already have a few 4 piece ones. I am looking for a little more corse grind, not super powder.

Any suggestions for best values would be appreciated. Thanks.
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This is an awesome 2 piece that i came across and really have come to like a lot, The design allows for extra leverage giving you the ability to stuff it full and have minimal resistance. The grind is very fine whether its packed or your just grinding a nug, the grind consistency is comparible to an SCS 2 piece if not finer. I just personally wish the logo wasnt there but overall its top notch quality.
http://www.newvape.com/fine-grinder-titanium-gray-2726/
 
Frederick McGuire

Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
Can anyone confirm for me, on the 2pce SCS, whatever the official name for he medium sized one is, what is the black ring thing in the middle made of and is it safe to ISO wash?

Basically, can I just Throw my whole SCS 2pce in ISO and clean it?
 
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mikeben

mikeben

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virtualpurple said:
Can anyone speak to their thoughts on how the Santa Cruz shredder compares with a small space-case?

I have a small space case currently, but am debating picking up a second grinder so that I can experience alternative grinds or so that I can keep ground up sativa separate from indica (not that I usually have the selection).

The small space case has worked really well for me but the kief screen isn't remove able as far as I know and it probably could stand to have a deep cleaning but I'm not sure the best way to minimize waste when cleaning out the space case.

This thread is kinda a bear to sift through because there are so many different grinders out there and it's hard to keep track of who are the overall top dogs in performance and quality.

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I like my small space case a lot, when I don't want too fine a grind I simply don't put any in the top, nor grind upside down, when I want it real fine I do both those things first. I heard nice things about Santa Cruz, am getting their cookie cutter dabber. As far as kief, I have had very little trouble getting it off the screen. I just tap and scrape with the triangle.

I don't press it as it goes into my Haze real nice the way it is. I like Kief a lot. So as far as your question, you can't go wrong with Space Case as far as I can tell, but Santa Cruz seems like a good company and I trust my dabber will be great.
 
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howie105

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My taker on grinders has changed from a one grinder to fit all approach to the right grinder for right vape approach. Not saying you can't get grinder X to do the job of grinder Y just that success may not be as good, as fast or perhaps as easy. For example in my case is that the MF finishing grinder is indeed the best grinder (results wise) for the MFLB but the resulting grind from it doesn’t work as well in the E-Nano as the grind I get from the three piece and the three piece grind doesn’t work as well as the coffee grinder if I grind correctly. At times the grinder doesn’t matter as much, with a little monkeying around I can get the LSV to pretty much vape anything I put into it within reason. The kief collection thing I understand but don't ascribe to. There are just so many better ways to do that that don't involve involve stripping it off the MJ I am going to use. So I guess that goes into to be look at later column. Enjoy
 
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EverythingsHazy

EverythingsHazy

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In regards to kief collection, aside from the coffee grinder, I never force kief off of my bud with a coin or by rubbing it, etc.. The tiny amount that comes off by itself isn't noticeable in each hit, but over time can build up enough to make a few nice pure kief bowls. Even with the electric grinder, you can always just pour the collected kief back over your ground bud if you want.

If the bud is cracker dry, the two piece pyramid teeth acrylic grinders are great. If it is stickier or moister, the coffee grinder will get the final product finer than a hand grinder, unless you are sitting there twisting it forever lol.
 
dubbydoo

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Is this product really worth 200 bucks.. has any body got one or reviewed it
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simoninaustralia

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mikeben

mikeben

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simoninaustralia said:
It says 'Lighter Mate' on the thing on top of the grinder, which leads to this site...

"Mama P's Classic Grinder The MATE Grinder, brought to you by Mama P's Wholesome Grinding Company, is proudly made in the USA."

http://www.lightermate.com/accessories/view/24


...and a search for that grinder company leads to their site...

http://mamagrind.com/product/mama-p...nder-special-offer-get-the-best-herb-grinder/
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I think it looks like a gimmick with the ash tray and lighter included on top. Without using it who knows really? Maybe it works well, but my Space Case is pretty unbeatable. It and Santa Cruz seem to have set the gold standard. I mean unless they totally reinvented the dynamics of it, but seeing the sites didn't make me want one. I suppose the price is they hand make it, warranty, replace the screen etc. I did find a few youtube vids, and it is so huge, I couldn't see using it functionally.
 
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zor

zor

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Ignoring the absurdly high price, I still got a pretty vile taste in my mouth reading this on the mama grind site:

One of the unique features of Mama P’s grinder is a replaceable screen of 60 micron Titanium. When the screen on every other grinder in the market get’s clogged, bent and damaged over time, a whole new grinder is the only option. With Mama P’s we simply remove the old screen and replace it with a brand new one for a very modest service fee.

Um, there is another option: soak the thing in ISO, rinse it, dry it, voila, good as new.

:rolleyes:
 
mikeben

mikeben

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Aimless Ryan said:
I just stumbled upon this while looking for something else:

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Yeah I think that's the one I saw, and yes it is funny you need to order the multi color $250 one now. At least that first link simoninaustralia put had them at $150. Still seems WAY too much. These seem to be novelty products. Again they might work great, but unless you frequently throw huge flower parties and blow throw an OZ a day who needs that big a grinder or pollen press?
 
Aimless Ryan

Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
Some of you may remember that not long ago I was using my 4-piece grinders exclusively right-side up, mainly so I could compare them all using the same criteria. From what I remember, my results were: Small and large 4-piece Santa Cruz Shredders produced a consistent medium grind, while my mini 4-piece SCS produced more of an inconsistent medium grind. I can't remember how the Diamond Grind 5-piece performed (because I probably didn't even try it), and I haven't really focused on any of my cheaper 4-piece grinders.

I have recently decided to try grinding upside down again. With the herbs pictured below (ground in a mini 4-piece SCS), I loaded the bottom teeth with 0.5 g, then immediately flipped the grinder upside down and turned the lid until I was sure I didn't feel any resistance from the herbs. Once I was sure I felt no resistance, I flipped it right-side up, gave it a few turns, and hit it against my palm a few times, to make sure all loose herbs fell through the holes.

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Thoughts:
  • Looks like a consistent fine grind to me. It's not powder, but I didn't want powder (and I'm sure I could probably make it more powdery by grinding upside down a little longer).
  • To my surprise, I was easily able to grind 0.5 g, while I believe I am only capable of grinding 0.3 g or less with my mini 2-piece SCS (because on the 2-piece there's hardly anything to grab for leverage on the bottom piece).
In an attempt to keep the male and female edges from getting gunked up, I had been loading the lid, then grinding upside down (for plenty of turns), then flipping to right-side up. No sideways grinding. However, because of the four large spaces between the bottom teeth (on this size), I have started loading the bottom, making sure to load everything as close to the center as possible (so nothing touches the inside of the female ring).

I don't know if grinding sideways creates more gunk than grinding either right-side up or upside down, but I can say that doing it the way I described here seems to keep it from gunking up. The main reason I'm staying away from grinding sideways right now is because I am currently trying not to complicate my "experiments." Grinding sideways may be a future experiment.

I think I'm going to keep using this mini 4-piece regularly for a while. Partly to become more familiar with what it can do, and partly to see what happens after I sift a lot of herbs with the very fine screen.

At this point I am beginning to think grinding upside down may once again become a regular part of my ritual.
 
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Aimless Ryan

Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
I've watched the video a few times now, and I think I've decided the grinder looks like it's probably a very good grinder. Also, it obviously has lots of features. Which might be useful to: 1) Someone who smokes (lighter and lighter storage area); 2) Someone who smokes (pipe and custom pipe cradle); 3) Someone who smokes (shit, I forgot what I was going to say here); 4) Someone who smokes (rolling tray/ash tray); 5) Someone who smokes ("place to wrap your spliffs"); 6) Someone who likes to pay $100 more than any grinder is worth.

Yes, it comes with a lot of goodies, but it also comes with a lot of goodies I would never need, probably even if I still smoked. And if I did still smoke (and if I did want all that stuff), why would I want all of it to be a part of my grinder? I could see how I may want some of that stuff as options (if I still smoked), but I wouldn't want all of it as a package. And even if I did want all of that stuff, it still wouldn't be worth anywhere near $200 to me. Maybe $100 (assuming the grinder is of good quality, which it appears to be).

And that's only because the grinder is huge, which is yet another option I would never need.

Based on what I've seen, it looks like this thing must be selling. (And that dude is one hell of a salesman.) But I don't think it's been sold to anyone who's ever spent more than five minutes on these boards (first of all because I've read this whole thread and this is the first time I remember seeing anything about it).
 
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