Pen Focus Vaporizer

[vaporcloud]

I prefer the higher temps ... always been a cloud chaser maybe it's a scar from my smoking/bong days ... so it's highest temp for me on the focus. Even then I'm having to really work it to get satisfying clouds. It will never beat my desktop vape for clouds but that's not what it's about. Just had a wake and bake session sitting on my deck in the warm spring New Zealand sun. Two bowls of the focusVape and I'm toasted. You can't beat that

 

[moondog]

I find with the Focus I use temps much higher than I do with other vapes. Not sure if it's just the style of vaporizer, where they're measuring or what?

I usually start around 420F and work up from there.

You guys find the same thing?

I had been stepping up from 390F to 420F and finding the vapor quite tolerable albeit not all that tasty (but that comes with the conduction territory, I think.)

But then yesterday I spent some time reading this thread and found the charts indicating that at 400F and above you start generating Benzene. Since I gave up combusting to avoid that kind of shit, I had to rethink my approach. Last night I started at 365F and stepped my way up to 390F. Definitely got better tasting vapor and was still plenty medicated. This works for me because I'm not a big time cloud chaser.

Last night was also my first time consciously trying Highness' heat soak method and opening only 2 airholes rather than the full three. I think those things contributed to my getting thicker vapor.

Using the bubbler (dry because I need to really be in the mood to deal with emptying that thing) allows me to see that yes indeed, I'm getting healthy pulls even if they're not video-worthy clouds.

 

[His_Highness]

@vaporcloud - Two Bowls!!! I can't do more than a half bowl without breaking into song

You either got a really high tolerance or need a new connection

@moondog - Thanks for the info on the benzene. Happy you clued me and sad about my favorite temps.

 

[moondog]

@vaporcloud - Two Bowls!!! I can't do more than a half bowl without breaking into song

You either got a really high tolerance or need a new connection

@moondog - Thanks for the info on the benzene. Happy you clued me and sad about my favorite temps.

I'm with you Highness. I read about/watch these folks and their multiple bowl sessions and I don't know how they do it. Although I do have vague, dim memories of times many decades past where multiple bowls were a regular occurrence. Of course, our medicine was nowhere near as potent back in the day.

As for the news on high temps - yeah, that was quite a shock. I just always assumed that if you didn't combust you wouldn't be releasing anything like that. Easy adjustment for me to make since up until recently I spent all my time in the mid-300s. The Focus does seem to lend itself to higher temps, but they are by no means necessary.

 

[vaporcloud]

My current stash is not top draw quality. It's still pretty much the wild west in NZ when it comes to scoring top quality product. Due to its legal status no such thing as a dispensery or outlet for medical grade cannabis. It's all down to contacts and what you're prepared to pay ... or risk growing yourself.

Was getting some quite acceptable clouds last night. Fine grind with very dry bud with a 30s heat soak was producing nice white vapor clouds.

 

[moondog]

My current stash is not top draw quality. It's still pretty much the wild west in NZ when it comes to scoring top quality product. Due to its legal status no such thing as a dispensery or outlet for medical grade cannabis. It's all down to contacts and what you're prepared to pay ... or risk growing yourself.

Was getting some quite acceptable clouds last night. Fine grind with very dry bud with a 30s heat soak was producing nice white vapor clouds.

Living where the prohibitionists hold sway definitely adds obstacles to the pursuit of our brand of happiness, for sure.

Glad you're getting better results.

I believe that it was here on FC that I learned that a fine grind is best for conduction vapes. Should have thought to mention it sooner. I guess I've been a little too "Focused". I'll show myself out...

 

[vaporcloud]

To be fair I was aware of the fine grind theory through years of using a PD and then my solo, although the solo kind of bucks the trend because it will zap a whole nug .. and the PD is (was) a convection vape. I find the focus works fine with a course grind but if your a cloud chaser you'll need to make sure your product is dry and ground fine.

 

[Vapor_Eyes]

For those having trouble getting the bubbler dry, I recently read a tip in another thread to use a hair dryer to heat the glass and evaporate leftover water.

 

[His_Highness]

I have a MFLB and used to grind to a powder like consistency. I thought about grinding to the MFLB level for the Focus but thought better of it when I noted the size of the screen holes in the bottom. Maybe I'll try to grind a little larger than powder and smaller than the average size that comes from my grinder. Thanks Guys!!!!

 

[kbrown5523]

Just got my Focus and I love it! I'm not feeling too good about the amount of money I've spent on expensive vapes, only to find this one because I was looking for something I could afford to dispose of at the end of a vacation. I've already ordered another one because I won't be able to live without it.

After using the PAX OG and an ESV2 I found out that I need airflow and I prefer conduction. I sure wish I hadn't had to spend that much money to find all that out.

 

[Sativajobs]

 

[moondog]

Focus Pro Review Part 1

[This review is presented in 2 parts because I have exceeded the 10,000 character limit. Part 2 will follow immediately.]

Some time ago I promised a review of the Focus Pro. I've been using it as my primary vape for a number of weeks now. I feel like my "review" has come out in dribs and drabs in response to people's questions and comments, and at this point I don't think anything I have to say is going to be news to folks who are regulars on this thread, but I figure it might be of value to new folks who are considering the Focus. So here we go.

First some background on your reviewer. As you can see from my sig, over the last few years I have been using several vapes; desktop and portable, convection and conduction. I vape for both medical and recreational purposes. A majority of my vaping is solo. I purchased the Focus Pro primarily as a sturdy backup for my Grasshoppers, which I fully expect to be my primary portables. The other use I foresee is for vaping with more than one friend on the go.

What's in the box

The Pro comes nicely packaged in an attractive, sturdy box with the unit itself cradled in a plastic tray. Under the tray you will find the accessories: A nicely weighted loading tool, a cleaning brush, a silicone cap for to protect the mouthpiece in transit or storage, an extra glass mouthpiece, USB charging cable, three extra screens for the mouthpiece filter assembly, and an instruction manual that tells you all you need to know. The unit ships with a single LG/Samsung3,200 mAh 18650 battery. Note: If you buy the Focus Pro Premium package you will also get the Focus bubbler tool, designed to slide directly onto the unit. More on that later.

Features

The Pro impresses immediately with its fit and finish. The nubbly outer coating provide a nice tactile contact with the unit and it feels hefty and solid while still fitting squarely in the "portable" category. Threading on the mouthpiece, body, and battery compartment endcap all feel smooth and well-cut. The OLED display is easy to read and delivers all the necessary info: unit status (if you're seeing a display it's on), battery status, and temperature. Just below the display are 2 buttons. These give you access to all of the unit's functionality. Above the display is a sliding ring. Sliding this ring covers or uncovers both the USB charging port and the three airholes that allow you to adjust the incoming air flow and hence the draw resistance. The glass mouthpiece pops on and off of the mouthpiece assembly very easily for cleaning or if you're going to use the bubbler. When it's in place it feels nice and secure there, especially with the silicone mouthpiece protector in place. With the glass mouthpiece removed, the rest of the mouthpiece assembly keeps the chamber contents in place.

Continued in Part 2.

 

[moondog]

Focus Pro Review Part 2

Functionality

One of the things that makes the Pro attractive as a first vape is its ease of use. The mouthpiece assembly unscrews to reveal the ceramic chamber that is quite easy to fill thanks to its inwardly beveled edge. Pressing either one of the buttons 3 times turns on the unit. The first time you do so (or after changing out a battery) you will then be prompted to choose either F or C for the temp display by pressing one or the other of the buttons. After that, the unit will remember your preference. It will also remember the last temperature that was selected. Otherwise, pressing or holding down one or the other button will raise or lower the temp. The temp range of the unit is 80 - 240 C or 176 - 464 F. Lots of flexibility there. After 5 minutes, the unit goes into sleep mode and stops heating. Holding down either button for 2 seconds will wake it up and it will heat up to the last set temp and be ready for vaping.

In Use

The Pro heats up nice and quick. I start my sessions at 365F and the unit reaches that temp in 30 seconds or less. (I haven't timed it exactly and that speed will be affected by battery strength.) A nice improvement over the Pinnacle Pro it replaced. As His Highness has pointed out previously (and I can now confirm), that fast heat up time means you might want to wait 20-30 seconds to let your material heat soak before drawing. That definitely increases vapor production. The Focus is a conduction vape, but it may be that using dry herb pods (see below) adds some small element of convection to the equation.

Another factor that will affect vapor production is your choice of airhole exposure. Again, on His Highness' suggestion, I found that covering up one of the airholes and leaving 2 open is my sweet spot for draw resistance versus vapor production. Three holes open makes for a nice easy draw but lighter vapor.

The ceramic chamber is easy to clean with an iso dipped swab. Be sure to do this with the unit upside down to prevent iso dripping into the heater. As I mentioned earlier, I've been using the Pro nearly daily for weeks and I have yet to need to clean the chamber. I'll explain why in a bit. It was only last week that I felt like the mouthpiece filter assembly was clogging up. All you need to do is unscrew the cap at the bottom (chamber side) of the mouthpiece assembly and remove the screen and ceramic filter. I toss both of those (carefully cause they're small) and the glass mouthpiece into some iso for a while; rinse them off, let them air dry, and reassemble.

Battery life with the high capacity 18650 is very good. I haven't been real good about keeping detailed data (I've been having too much fun), but I'd say I'm getting at least 6-8 sessions before I need to recharge. Charging with the included USB cable is easy and straightforward, but I tend to charge my batteries externally with a Nitecore D4. I have used the internal charging method and it works just fine. The display lets you know what's going on and the unit shuts off when the battery is fully charged.

I've seen people on line generating huge clouds with the Pro but that's not how I use it. I start my sessions at 365F and temp step after one or two draws to 375 and finish at 385. According to what I've read here, I'm getting the effects I'm looking for while steering clear of the nasty byproducts of higher temps. Yes, temps above 400 provide for more clouds, but I vape to avoid the Benzene and other negative products of those higher temps. Taste-wise, the vapor produced by the Pro feels to me like that typical of conduction vapes. It can be a bit dry and hot but I find it easily tolerated. If it does get to be too much I just open my lips a bit and draw in some air around the mouthpiece.

The only part of the Pro's functionality that has been anything but dead simple for me is the auto shutoff feature. I invariably find that I reach the 5 minute mark and the unit turns off before I am ready to stop vaping. But I'm already medicated enough that I can never remember whether I need to briefly press or hold down the button to wake the unit up. I usually end up turning it off, turning it back on, and letting it reach temp. A minor glitch that is totally attributable to user error.

Accessories

A couple of the accessories deserve a little more examination.

I really appreciate the silicone mouthpiece cover. It protects the glass mouthpiece and makes the transporting the unit feel a whole lot more secure.

But the clear winner in terms of Focus accessories are the dry herb pods. My advice is: don’t buy a Focus Pro without picking up at least a couple of these. They are well built (especially after their early redesign), easy to fill, and make refilling the unit on the go an absolute breeze. Once a load is done you just wait for it to cool off, open the chamber, remove the spent pod, drop in the new one, and you're ready to go. Ignoring the cool-down period, you can reload your unit in the dark in 10 seconds. Yes, using the pod reduces the capacity a bit but to me the trade-off is worth it. The pods are great for microdosing and using them keeps the chamber nice and clean. These days I never use the Pro without a pod. I did try a chamber without the pod and didn't notice any difference in vapor production, which was my only concern.

I am not as impressed with the bubbler. It is nicely designed in that if you remove the glass mouthpiece the bubbler slides snugly and securely down over the mouthpiece assembly. The bubbler is a bit finicky to fill. It's super easy to overfill it and it's difficult to remove just a little bit of water (you have to blow into it to do so) so there can be a fair amount of "oops too much, oops too little, oops too much" involved. The bubbler does its job of cooling well enough but I get enough cooling effect using it dry and I do so because it is very difficult to get all the moisture out of the thing. You can't just pour the water out and even blowing through one end doesn't remove it all. I'm a bit OCD about my gear and I want the bubbler to be completely dry before I store it. The only thing that has worked for me is to place the bubbler on top of the dehumidifier and leave it there overnight. Not worth the hassle to me since I get enough cooling just by extending the vapor path by using the bubbler dry. Added bonus to that method: nice visual feedback on vapor production.

I'll be getting another water tool before too long and I look forward to using the Focus with that; employing the last accessory I'll mention: the stainless steel water tool adapter. This fully replaces the mouthpiece assembly (screws in the same way) and it looks like it can mate well with 14 or 18 mm pieces. I'll let you know how that works when I get to try it.

Customer Service

Here's where the Focus Pro shines. If you read back through this thread you'll see that some of us had some odor issues with early units. I contacted iFocus Technologies directly and had one of the best customer service experiences EVER. Even though they are located in Hong Kong, I received prompt (allowing for time differences) responses and they followed up with me constantly to make sure I received them. When they sent me a replacement unit they included all sorts of accessories as a thank you for sticking with them. iFocus gets a 12 out of 10 (not a typo) for their customer service. Add that to the fact that you can buy the Focus from PuffItUp, who also rate a 12 out of 10 for CS and who have more than once put the Focus on sale for $99 and you have some very compelling additional reasons to give this unit a try.

Summary

So the Focus Pro is very easy to use and clean. I appreciate that I can hand it to a friend, say "just suck on the glass", and know he or she will have a satisfactory experience. It's not the device I would reach for if I'm looking to melt my frontal lobes. I don't get those kind of effects from it (of course, I have yet to really try). For me, it's a great portable to take to concerts, movies, etc. where I'm not looking to get totally wrecked. I'm looking for discreet experience enhancement and the Focus provides that in spades. The flexibility provided by the fully selectable temperature setting and airholes allow you to tailor the unit to your vape use preferences. The pods make for super easy on the go refills. I would not hesitate to recommend the Focus Pro as a first vape or as a sturdy reliable backup to higher tech, bleeding edge units (I'm lookin' at you, Grasshopper.)

I'll certainly be keeping an eye on iFocus' other vapes, which will also be available from PIU, hopefully soon.

 

[kbrown5523]

Focus Pro Review Part 2


But the clear winner in terms of Focus accessories are the dry herb pods. My advice is: don’t buy a Focus Pro without picking up at least a couple of these. They are well built (especially after their early redesign), easy to fill, and make refilling the unit on the go an absolute breeze. Once a load is done you just wait for it to cool off, open the chamber, remove the spent pod, drop in the new one, and you're ready to go. Ignoring the cool-down period, you can reload your unit in the dark in 10 seconds. Yes, using the pod reduces the capacity a bit but to me the trade-off is worth it. The pods are great for microdosing and using them keeps the chamber nice and clean. These days I never use the Pro without a pod. I did try a chamber without the pod and didn't notice any difference in vapor production, which was my only concern.

Which pods are you using and where did you got them? I've read that the FM pods and X-max capsules both work, but it sounds like you're using ones specifically for the Focus.

 

[moondog]

Which pods are you using and where did you got them? I've read that the FM pods and X-max capsules both work, but it sounds like you're using ones specifically for the Focus.

I'm using these. I got mine directly from iFocus but had purchased a pair of the original-style pods from PIU when I first bought the Focus. If you're going to get them, definitely get them from PIU.

 

[His_Highness]

@moondog - GREAT REVIEW!!!!

 

[moondog]

@moondog - GREAT REVIEW!!!!

Thanks. I was just trying to meet the high bar you set with your earlier reviews (which are what convinced me to try the Focus in the first place, so thanks!!)

Decided it was time to get it done because my Grasshoppers arrived today and my Focus will be getting some well-deserved time off while we welcome the newest family members.

 

[MonkeyTime]

Focus Pro Review Part 2

Functionality

One of the things that makes the Pro attractive as a first vape is its ease of use. The mouthpiece assembly unscrews to reveal the ceramic chamber that is quite easy to fill thanks to its inwardly beveled edge. Pressing either one of the buttons 3 times turns on the unit. The first time you do so (or after changing out a battery) you will then be prompted to choose either F or C for the temp display by pressing one or the other of the buttons. After that, the unit will remember your preference. It will also remember the last temperature that was selected. Otherwise, pressing or holding down one or the other button will raise or lower the temp. The temp range of the unit is 80 - 240 C or 176 - 464 F. Lots of flexibility there. After 5 minutes, the unit goes into sleep mode and stops heating. Holding down either button for 2 seconds will wake it up and it will heat up to the last set temp and be ready for vaping.

In Use

The Pro heats up nice and quick. I start my sessions at 365F and the unit reaches that temp in 30 seconds or less. (I haven't timed it exactly and that speed will be affected by battery strength.) A nice improvement over the Pinnacle Pro it replaced. As His Highness has pointed out previously (and I can now confirm), that fast heat up time means you might want to wait 20-30 seconds to let your material heat soak before drawing. That definitely increases vapor production. The Focus is a conduction vape, but it may be that using dry herb pods (see below) adds some small element of convection to the equation.

Another factor that will affect vapor production is your choice of airhole exposure. Again, on His Highness' suggestion, I found that covering up one of the airholes and leaving 2 open is my sweet spot for draw resistance versus vapor production. Three holes open makes for a nice easy draw but lighter vapor.

The ceramic chamber is easy to clean with an iso dipped swab. Be sure to do this with the unit upside down to prevent iso dripping into the heater. As I mentioned earlier, I've been using the Pro nearly daily for weeks and I have yet to need to clean the chamber. I'll explain why in a bit. It was only last week that I felt like the mouthpiece filter assembly was clogging up. All you need to do is unscrew the cap at the bottom (chamber side) of the mouthpiece assembly and remove the screen and ceramic filter. I toss both of those (carefully cause they're small) and the glass mouthpiece into some iso for a while; rinse them off, let them air dry, and reassemble.

Battery life with the high capacity 18650 is very good. I haven't been real good about keeping detailed data (I've been having too much fun), but I'd say I'm getting at least 6-8 sessions before I need to recharge. Charging with the included USB cable is easy and straightforward, but I tend to charge my batteries externally with a Nitecore D4. I have used the internal charging method and it works just fine. The display lets you know what's going on and the unit shuts off when the battery is fully charged.

I've seen people on line generating huge clouds with the Pro but that's not how I use it. I start my sessions at 365F and temp step after one or two draws to 375 and finish at 385. According to what I've read here, I'm getting the effects I'm looking for while steering clear of the nasty byproducts of higher temps. Yes, temps above 400 provide for more clouds, but I vape to avoid the Benzene and other negative products of those higher temps. Taste-wise, the vapor produced by the Pro feels to me like that typical of conduction vapes. It can be a bit dry and hot but I find it easily tolerated. If it does get to be too much I just open my lips a bit and draw in some air around the mouthpiece.

The only part of the Pro's functionality that has been anything but dead simple for me is the auto shutoff feature. I invariably find that I reach the 5 minute mark and the unit turns off before I am ready to stop vaping. But I'm already medicated enough that I can never remember whether I need to briefly press or hold down the button to wake the unit up. I usually end up turning it off, turning it back on, and letting it reach temp. A minor glitch that is totally attributable to user error.

Accessories

A couple of the accessories deserve a little more examination.

I really appreciate the silicone mouthpiece cover. It protects the glass mouthpiece and makes the transporting the unit feel a whole lot more secure.

But the clear winner in terms of Focus accessories are the dry herb pods. My advice is: don’t buy a Focus Pro without picking up at least a couple of these. They are well built (especially after their early redesign), easy to fill, and make refilling the unit on the go an absolute breeze. Once a load is done you just wait for it to cool off, open the chamber, remove the spent pod, drop in the new one, and you're ready to go. Ignoring the cool-down period, you can reload your unit in the dark in 10 seconds. Yes, using the pod reduces the capacity a bit but to me the trade-off is worth it. The pods are great for microdosing and using them keeps the chamber nice and clean. These days I never use the Pro without a pod. I did try a chamber without the pod and didn't notice any difference in vapor production, which was my only concern.

I am not as impressed with the bubbler. It is nicely designed in that if you remove the glass mouthpiece the bubbler slides snugly and securely down over the mouthpiece assembly. The bubbler is a bit finicky to fill. It's super easy to overfill it and it's difficult to remove just a little bit of water (you have to blow into it to do so) so there can be a fair amount of "oops too much, oops too little, oops too much" involved. The bubbler does its job of cooling well enough but I get enough cooling effect using it dry and I do so because it is very difficult to get all the moisture out of the thing. You can't just pour the water out and even blowing through one end doesn't remove it all. I'm a bit OCD about my gear and I want the bubbler to be completely dry before I store it. The only thing that has worked for me is to place the bubbler on top of the dehumidifier and leave it there overnight. Not worth the hassle to me since I get enough cooling just by extending the vapor path by using the bubbler dry. Added bonus to that method: nice visual feedback on vapor production.

I'll be getting another water tool before too long and I look forward to using the Focus with that; employing the last accessory I'll mention: the stainless steel water tool adapter. This fully replaces the mouthpiece assembly (screws in the same way) and it looks like it can mate well with 14 or 18 mm pieces. I'll let you know how that works when I get to try it.

Customer Service

Here's where the Focus Pro shines. If you read back through this thread you'll see that some of us had some odor issues with early units. I contacted iFocus Technologies directly and had one of the best customer service experiences EVER. Even though they are located in Hong Kong, I received prompt (allowing for time differences) responses and they followed up with me constantly to make sure I received them. When they sent me a replacement unit they included all sorts of accessories as a thank you for sticking with them. iFocus gets a 12 out of 10 (not a typo) for their customer service. Add that to the fact that you can buy the Focus from PuffItUp, who also rate a 12 out of 10 for CS and who have more than once put the Focus on sale for $99 and you have some very compelling additional reasons to give this unit a try.

Summary

So the Focus Pro is very easy to use and clean. I appreciate that I can hand it to a friend, say "just suck on the glass", and know he or she will have a satisfactory experience. It's not the device I would reach for if I'm looking to melt my frontal lobes. I don't get those kind of effects from it (of course, I have yet to really try). For me, it's a great portable to take to concerts, movies, etc. where I'm not looking to get totally wrecked. I'm looking for discreet experience enhancement and the Focus provides that in spades. The flexibility provided by the fully selectable temperature setting and airholes allow you to tailor the unit to your vape use preferences. The pods make for super easy on the go refills. I would not hesitate to recommend the Focus Pro as a first vape or as a sturdy reliable backup to higher tech, bleeding edge units (I'm lookin' at you, Grasshopper.)

I'll certainly be keeping an eye on iFocus' other vapes, which will also be available from PIU, hopefully soon.

Great review Moon!

I'd agree with almost everything you said like gospel truth, except maybe the CS. While I think they tried very hard, and that alone puts them in the upper ranks, the follow thru was iffy. The replacement unit they sent me for the replacement unit didn't have the bottom screen installed in it. It's pretty useless w/out the pods.

I really liked the glass, although it can be a bit finicky like you mentioned. I'm guessing it would work great with your new GH's, I was going to make a silicone adapter until I got the DDave kit for my Milaana. It's got a 14mm small glass piece that is perfect for the GH!

I need to finish the temp based vaping thread, I see you brought up the Benzene issues above 390F. From what I've read thru, it sounded pretty debunked, does it pop back up?

Ok, enough off topic, my bad, should have sent a PM....

Great summation of all of your postings here, with a great deal of detail for those on the fence, fine work!

 

[moondog]

Great review Moon!

I'd agree with almost everything you said like gospel truth, except maybe the CS. While I think they tried very hard, and that alone puts them in the upper ranks, the follow thru was iffy. The replacement unit they sent me for the replacement unit didn't have the bottom screen installed in it. It's pretty useless w/out the pods.

I really liked the glass, although it can be a bit finicky like you mentioned. I'm guessing it would work great with your new GH's, I was going to make a silicone adapter until I got the DDave kit for my Milaana. It's got a 14mm small glass piece that is perfect for the GH!

I need to finish the temp based vaping thread, I see you brought up the Benzene issues above 390F. From what I've read thru, it sounded pretty debunked, does it pop back up?

Ok, enough off topic, my bad, should have sent a PM....

Great summation of all of your postings here, with a great deal of detail for those on the fence, fine work!

Thanks MT. I appreciate the kind words.

Bummer that iFocus didn't stick the landing on your CS experience. Did you follow up with them? I'd be surprised to hear they didn't make good for you.

I'll be interested to see if the GH and the Focus bubbler play well together. I may have to invest in one of Ratchett's nearly universal adapters. We'll see. I'm leaning heavily towards a MF Orbiter, which I can use with the hoppers, the Focus, and whatever else ends up in the roster.

The Benzene issue was debunked? I must have missed that. I'll need to do some follow up reading. Apologies to all if I have propagated misinformation.

 

[MonkeyTime]

Thanks MT. I appreciate the kind words.

Bummer that iFocus didn't stick the landing on your CS experience. Did you follow up with them? I'd be surprised to hear they didn't make good for you.

I'll be interested to see if the GH and the Focus bubbler play well together. I may have to invest in one of Ratchett's nearly universal adapters. We'll see. I'm leaning heavily towards a MF Orbiter, which I can use with the hoppers, the Focus, and whatever else ends up in the roster.

The Benzene issue was debunked? I must have missed that. I'll need to do some follow up reading. Apologies to all if I have propagated misinformation.

I didn't follow up with them. They did try very hard, but I honestly felt bad having them send another unit, and the one is usable, just not new condition.

The focus glass with it's special size needed a special size rubber stopper, it's much larger than a standard 18mm, so I'm not sure if the Ratchett one would work. The Orbiter on the other hand will be mine as soon as the green/walnut is back in stock!

From where I was at in the thread, it was brought up, and Pak (the mod) pretty much shot it down and asked for something disputing his claims. I'm only half way thru, but I haven't seen it pop back up as a subject. And by the way, thanks, you're the one that posted it the first time that got me reading it, very interesting stuff!

 

[moondog]

From where I was at in the thread, it was brought up, and Pak (the mod) pretty much shot it down and asked for something disputing his claims. I'm only half way thru, but I haven't seen it pop back up as a subject. And by the way, thanks, you're the one that posted it the first time that got me reading it, very interesting stuff!

I went back and did some searching and the way I read things is not so much that Pak completely debunked it as pointed out that there was more testing and standardization of procedures and terms that was needed. He did come down firmly on the skeptical side and that's cool. And my interpretation could be me seeing what I want to see. Who knows?

My take away is that there may or may not be undesirable by-products released through vaporization at various temps. Whatever it is, it will be far less than your exposure through combustion. It's up to each of us to decide our level of risk and that's why a vape with fully selectable temps (such as the Focus - whew, brought us back from OT) is such a great tool. Lately I've been feeling a bit squeamish about it so I'm staying below 390F. Maybe at some point I'll say "fuck it" and crank it up to higher temps.

At the risk of once again veering OT, I will point out that the Grasshopper, which people are constantly categorizing as a device that kicks like a mule, tops out at 410F. Again, who knows?

 

[His_Highness]

@MonkeyTime / @moondog - really appreciate the info trade on temps...good stuff.

BTW - Planet of the Vapes just started selling the Focus Pro for $99, Free Shipping, Free 4 piece aluminum CNC grinder and a Free TightVac Air Tight Storage container!!! POTV has one of the best warranties around, if not THE best. 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed-no questions asked full refund.

 

[moondog]

@MonkeyTime / @moondog - really appreciate the info trade on temps...good stuff.

BTW - Planet of the Vapes just started selling the Focus Pro for $99, Free Shipping, Free 4 piece aluminum CNC grinder and a Free TightVac Air Tight Storage container!!! POTV has one of the best warranties around, if not THE best. 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed-no questions asked full refund.

That's a great deal and they deserve our patronage just for their name alone!

But...

I notice that they don't sell any Focus accessories. PIU is also offering the Pro for $99 and they sell the accessories. PIU also offers a free 4-piece grinder as part of their package. Since I already have one, I asked Jake if they would instead send me a couple of Focus dry herb pods instead. He was totally amenable to that. Big win all around. Now, that was back with the original pods and I don't know if the new style are more expensive (I don't remember what the old ones cost), but it couldn't hurt to ask.

PIU isn't offering a storage container as part of their deal, but for me, the pods would be the priority and PIU's got 'em..

 

[His_Highness]

@moondog - Good points all! Too each their own for sure.....I don't have a TightVac Air Tight Storage container yet

 

[moondog]

@moondog - Good points all! Too each their own for sure.....I don't have a TightVac Air Tight Storage container yet

Agreed Highness. Didn't mean for it to read that I was suggesting one over the other. Just offering up options depending on which accessories folks need to round out their arsenal. Ideally, there are enough of us with enough VAS and VAAS to keep all these good folks in business. All good!!