Mulehead
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If they started doing exotic woods, I might pony up for a backup
+1 maybe 2, if swappable batteries are incorporated!
If they started doing exotic woods, I might pony up for a backup
The firewood does have swappable batteries in the form of a battery pack.+1 maybe 2, if swappable batteries are incorporated!
That's a stretch. I love the Firewood 3.0 but an aftermarket accessory is hardly swappable batteries.The firewood does have swappable batteries in the form of a battery pack.
Proud to have joined the club.
Look at these beauties
It's a great device. Didn't have to change the temp setup s. Worked just fine out of the box.
Compared to my beloved ESV the vapor is definitely hotter and harsher - but it's manageable and if you attach a different mouthpiece or bubbler these "issues" won't exist (am a little sensitive in this regard).
Flavorwise I find the ESV a small step ahead, a little richer and more distinguished. But I love the fw already - huge advantage for me: you can really sip this thing, not possible this way with the ESV. You get great results easily with the wood and it hits hard... I think it's super well extracting, very efficient.
Put in only a pinch, maybe 1/4 capsule.. Maybe even less. Got some nice hits. Later on I just put some more in, about 1/3 max.1/2 I'd say, and it really smashed me... Wow..! Never underestimate the power of an efficient vape..
Marc did and does a fanatic job. What a great vape. Love the wood, the looks, the smell, the feel. Very, very nice!
No, they go extra. I think if you order two additional mouthpieces, you get the holder. Mine was unfinished - but you get some wax for that too. Fun to do.Does every firewood come with the spare capsules and capsule holder?
I really love these mouthpieces people are rigging together. I love how customizable this vape is. I'm just filled with FW3 love right now
Been dialing in my FW (+6 feels a little bit like training wheels now) and, wow, not filling the capsule makes a huge difference for me. Wasn't liking mouthpiece sooo short as stock, found this 3"x10mm glass piece at a random headshop. Even tho stock glass is 11mm, 10mm works well, the silicone and gasket are pretty forgiving. Still good feel for the heat at this length, super smooth vapor, next I'll trim almost 1 1/4" for ideal form factor.
Edit: sorry, not sure image is making it thru. http://imgur.com/5ktpABj
The batteries are user replaceable. As batteries are usually the first point of failure in consumer electronics this is huge for the longevity of the device. In some devices when the battery fails you have to either toss the device or send it in for the batteries to be replaced. The FW3 uses a relatively common battery model that once your device's original batteries die you'll be able to take those out and put in new ones. As far as actual hardware the design seems to be a solid unit and most haven't had problems. There was a FW2.1 user posting a few pages back reporting that their device still works pretty damn well. Given the remarkably low failure rate based on user reports here I'd guess it'll last long enough for you to have more than got your money's worth out of it. I think it's far more likely that another iteration of the Firewood comes along that you have to have and you retiring your old one for the new one is more likely than your old one dying. As long as you don't actively mistreat it I'm sure it'll last long enough. Don't leave it in a freezing or hot car for a while, don't get it wet, don't do anything to it that you wouldn't do to another small consumer electronics device and keep in mind that it's wood so don't do shit that harms wood to it and you'll be fine. Maybe put some wood conditioner on it from time to time, as wood can dry out and crack and that to me seems like the next most likely point of failure after the batteries. Also, I'm pretty sure maple lasts longer than walnut as a type of wood, but if you're really concerned do a bit of research into which type of wood tends to have more longevity.I'm heavily considering getting a FW3 as my first vaporizer. I know 3.0 probably hasn't been out all that long, so it would be hard to say, but can anyone comment on the longevity/reliability of Firewoods in general? Normally a 1 year limited warranty would worry me, but it seems like that's mostly because this is a small company that probably can't afford great long super comprehensive warranties (rather than a large company that could afford it but doesn't trust their own product, or maybe intentionally made their vape to last only a few years, just like cell phones are only designed to last a few)
Basically, as someone who would use it at MAX maybe once per day, without employing weird complicated techniques to increase longevity, I'd want it to last well longer than a single year
Also, from what I've seen, it looks like the only thing I'd need to really maintain would be the mouthpiece and capsule, right?
@RUDE BOY did you ever try this in a log style and how did affect your performance?
Interested in picking up a new daily driver.. I've got it narrowed down to a few choices. Looking at the Firewood as an option in the middle of my price range.
@RUDE BOY did you ever try this in a log style and how did affect your performance?
Been playing around with my new FW3 and after a bit of a learning curve (stoking is KEY with this vape)
By stoking do you just mean shaking/rearranging herb for even cooking? I thought that would be a little difficult in a capsule, can you give me a small pointer on how its done? (given that I'm only getting my first vape soon, so I don't know anything)
I did try it and it helps for a little quicker session (I think), the FW3 is serving as my daily right now but I'm down to using .5 gm a day or less right now in 3-4 sessions.
Did you use an extra screen or tamp the herb to keep it from falling on the heater? Everybody seems to get mixed results when it comes to visual feedback (clouds). When it comes down to it the effects are most important but good vapor production satisfy my psyche as a recreational user.
I didn't have a need to tamp using the "straw method" of filling my capsule, like using a nylon stem for the UD or HI it just seems to stay put for me once it's in the capsule. I am now getting good visible vapor on most hits with some really big clouds at times. The effects are outstanding for the amount of herb I'm using per load clouds or not which is why I'm using it so much right now. Like i said above for me the learning curve was difficult to overcome for a while but now I'm very happy I didn't give up on it too early.
Now when I use it i can't even tell why it was so hard to get decent results other then needing to step up the temp, wait for the coil to glow(6-8seconds) after setting the temp and before taking a hit, and drawing much slower then I was originally. Those three things changed my experience greatly.
With a fully loaded capsule, I would do 5-6 draws at #3 (amazing flavor) and then move to setting #4. After 8 draws, I'm still getting impressive clouds but by then I'm getting what I needed and I'm getting bored so I stop and reload for later. Probably wasting some but I have very small windows in which to partake.
Mine has a faulty switch, but if I press harder than normal, it responds so I haven't sent it back yet. Mostly because I don't have a replacement yet. I'm last in line for another certain wooden vape.The Firewood brand has not been prone to faulty units. I think you, me and payton are the only ones to have a defective/malfunctioning unit and mine happened the day after I used it with the micro-bub for a full day so it is possible I dropped water in it. Lots of others have had their FW3 for several months now with no problems.
You can spend more money, but that does not mean you will be getting one that works consistently. All those big money vapes have returns too, check out their threads and read about 2 or 3 pages and you will see what I mean.
These comparisons make a lot of sense to me, and my goal is to limit CBDs. I use a SS hopper and a walnut FW and it's a great combination.This is kind of a part two, I suggest reading part one on the grassHopper thread.
I understand not everyone goes on reddit; I did a comparison of the Firewood against the grassHopper. If you would like me to include more details or go over other subjects please ask. I kind of just ranted about time management and extraction.
The Firewood battery life is longer but it sacrifices the quick and easy battery swapping. You do get the ability to use battery packs if you don't have any batteries in the Firewood or if they are dead or if you want to ensure you're having a full powered session. I'd say I get at least 40-50+ hits from the Firewood. It may sound like double but the amount of sessions I can go through with the Firewood far surpass the Hopper.
Going back to time management I feel I should mention the Firewood's disadvantages in that category. I mentioned the batteries weren't the easiest and quick process; they are held in by 4 lengthy screws that require a flat-blade/slotted screwdriver. I have had 3 Firewood 3.0 units and they have had pretty snug holes for where the batteries slide in to; wouldn't rely on changing those batteries very often, I know the ones I have for my battery packs are a bit snug and will most likely get stuck if I attempt to insert them in there.
When it comes down to usage you must press and hold the bottom button for a few of seconds to turn the unit on. The unit will buzz on, buzz battery, and wait for you to choose a temp.
An example of heat up time comparison;
(First test) the gH heats to max temp before the Firewood starts its heatup (Was able to select temp four and heard 3 buzzes before the blue light came on).
(Second Test) the gH (heated once until it reached max temp then immediately turned off) heats to max temp before the Firewood finishes telling its battery life.
Not a big deal, but the real wait for the unit to start heating has yet to begin. By the time it has heated and you can draw you are probably choking on a cloud from the Hopper. Bowl loading process takes a while, if you purchase two capsules at a time you get a holder which simplifies swapping on the go. The capsule is too hot to touch after a session unless you use the unit log style and remove it after every hit or only take a couple hits. That inconvenience slows down or impedes the reloading process which is pretty quick on the Hopper. Maintenance takes a bit longer with the extra screens; the Hopper is a simple iso'd qtip swab.
I think the Firewood is the clear winner in extraction.
..and back extraction; I prefer an extraction further than the picture before; something like the extraction in this video (abv shot at 1:18).
I also prefer being able to finish the load to that entirety in 1-3 hits; the closer the Hopper comes is 6 hits and its still not really that finished. Which kind of sucks considering that I am trying for that result from less than .1g of herb.
The extraction I prefer is a high temp one, a bigger focus towards CBD. A big advantage of the Firewood over the grassHopper is a higher temperature and the ability to scale the internal temperature higher. But it does introduce the inconvenience of combusting with improper usage which isn't a concern for the Hopper.
So.. more words right.. Flavor is probably not something you want my opinion on. I focus a lot on high temps and really enjoy the flavor of some rich dark abv. It kind of depends on the day or situation with my vape. Since the Firewood can combust you can get that smell in your unit. Its gone after a good session unless you just blew smoke all into it. You can also get a particulate or something to fall down and it might make it seem like you combusted or something. The grassHopper just doesn't taste that stellar; its not bad but I've got some pretty pure units. There's metallic feeling from it and the vapor feels dirty when I am milking a tube. On low temps it is very flavorful but doesn't milk on low.
I personally am siding with the Firewood on flavor. The wood is very noticeable at first, but you begin to enjoy it and it blends in with herb complimenting it. grassHopper is better at keeping the flavor consistent and shines on temps lower than 3.5. Overall the Firewood tastes pure to me (not VAP3 pure); but from that first light low temp hit to the final rich taste of blackness its definitely more pure than the gH.
(Primarily intended for newer reddit users) I don't feel I covered it but production is a lot different than extraction. I will have to take another video of my grassHoppers for a better example but those units have better production than extraction, while the Firewood is the opposite with a better extraction than production. When I say production I am referring to vapor production, extraction is referring to how thoroughly the unit darkened the herb for the hits taken (herb can still be fully darkened but poorly extracted). The grassHopper can give you a hit that makes you stammer and drool. Where as the Firewood will have the same size load black but the water pipe will have gotten skim at best.
Here are my Firewood 3.0 videos (in order of popularity), 1 - 2 - 3 - 4