Ok, so mine showed up yesterday. I’ve only put four bowls through it but it’s my current favorite. The feel is much better/natural than the nine. If it heats up faster, it’s not by much. I temp stepped the first couple (after a burn-off) and then tried one on 440°and then one unregulated. I think I’ll probably stick with a few hits on the first setting and then jump straight to unregulated to finish it off. I absolutely love this thing! I didn’t even fire up any of the desktops last night.
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No it won't. Unless you get an absolute seal, it will go down even if the path upwards appears to be easier. You have to have a shitload of resistance to force the fluid to go the long route. I had admittedly forgotten that there's capsules with sealed sides, but even then, unless you get a complete seal with the ceramic, it won't work to the scale that you want. And if you do get a complete seal, the extra turns are gonna add a hell of a lot to the draw resistance. I suggest you actually use the thing. You want capsules so you can use small loads. My FW7 is stellar with just enough to cover the screen.obviously, this force is the suction force.
"Water does not flow under a lying stone, but will bypass it"
If there is a lighter movement of air through the grooves than between the walls of the capsule and the chamber, the airflow will move upward through the grooves under the action of SUCTION FORCE, then enter through the capsule lid, pass through the flower and exit through the bottom of the capsule into the mouthpiece. This is obvious if you imagine that the capsule is inserted into the chamber without any gap.
WhyWhyWhy?
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Apparently, you and I will not come to a common opinion)) Although you already partially agree that if the capsule fits tightly into the chamber, it will be difficult for the airflow to squeeze between the camera screens and the capsule))
I'll tell you one more thought - hot air rises up under the action of the laws of physics )) I.e. there will not necessarily be a downward movement. The air is not an apple that fell on Archimedes' head.
In general, additional air channels between the capsule wall and the chamber (grooves) can change the direction of air movement to the one described above - the air flow CAN go up in the grooves, enter through the capsule lid and exit through the bottom of the capsule into the glass stem.
Falconflys
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I thought the myth was Isaac Newton headnot an apple that fell on Archimedes' head.
WhyWhyWhy?
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Yes, this is a legend about the fall of an apple, but Archimedes' law itself is not a legend. It works, you can even check it by standing under an apple tree
Kaptan
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Unregulated? What is the button press method to get to this setting? I don’t see it listed in the manual.
Also, I’ve tried using the xmax / Roffu capsule in the FW 7 and FW X without the lid ( would not fit otherwise). It was not very desirable at all. You must put the temp at max and not much vapor production. I would not recommend!
WhyWhyWhy?
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You probably used a capsule with a FLAT lid, like this : https://xvapeusa.com/product/roffu-dosing-capsules/ right?
It's just that there is another version of the capsules, with a concave lid, which is smaller in height than with a flat one. With a concave lid, it is 11mm high and should fit into the camera without having to remove the lid : https://verdampftnochmal.de/xvap-xmax-oont-dosierkapseln_1
Tell me, what is the gap between the wall of the Xmax capsule and the wall of the FwX chamber? how tightly does the capsule fit into the chamber?
cx714
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Maybe we should start a new section: Untried and Untested Mods for Upcoming and Unreleased Vapes.
Thinking this urinary fluid dynamics contest isn’t of general interest.
delta hotel
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I admire the determination to make it work in a way you'd like. I'll be honest though, I'm questioning 'Why why why?'
This user came prepared when they created the account.
JK, I hope we can all enjoy a FWX or at least, find something that works for us and does what we're looking for.
This user came prepared when they created the account.
JK, I hope we can all enjoy a FWX or at least, find something that works for us and does what we're looking for.
It’s not in the manual but it’s same as activating it on the FW9, four quick presses and the hold the fifth. It’ll vibrate 4 times, and begin heating. There’s no second vibration for temp as now it’s just wide open.
WhyWhyWhy?
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This is not the "Ask a urologist" section. Anyway, good health to you!Maybe we should start a new section: Untried and Untested Mods for Upcoming and Unreleased Vapes.
Thinking this urinary fluid dynamics contest isn’t of general interest.
I'm just trying to make it convenient for MYSELF. I like capsules, I have 150 of them for different varieties of flowers. Hyperdyne, TM2, Xmax V3 pro and Roffu work on the same capsules. There were no upgrades to the devices, except for the refinement of the cooling element in the TM2. I don't think there will be any problems with FwX either. If the capsules don't work well in it, I'll be the first to write about it here and switch to the built-in storage.
Kaptan
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It is indeed the flat top capsule without the lid. The other capsule you mention must be at least 1mm shorter to fit. When inserted there is a slight gap on the circumference, but not much….about 1/16mm? If you do try with capsules, I think you will find it be very inefficient. You will waste herb and battery life will also be impacted because it will require much higher temps.
All that being said, I hope you find what works for you.
Regarding usage, I have been very unimpressed with the low temp settings on my unit as I barely get vapor below 380, but it does well set at 440* and unregulated. I’ve previously mentioned this to Marc and there may have been a heater assembly issue so I’m sending mine back. It just seems like the temp is about 40*F lower than the set temp in comparison to my FW 7.
Edit: I forgot to mention the airflow on the FW X is much more open compared to the 7. The 7 is more restricted due to the stem adapter.
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delta hotel
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I can see why you'd want to use them if it's convenient, and you seem to have a LOT of them. Curious, if they don't work out, is the device a bust for you, or do you just use it without?This is not the "Ask a urologist" section. Anyway, good health to you!
I'm just trying to make it convenient for MYSELF. I like capsules, I have 150 of them for different varieties of flowers. Hyperdyne, TM2, Xmax V3 pro and Roffu work on the same capsules. There were no upgrades to the devices, except for the refinement of the cooling element in the TM2. I don't think there will be any problems with FwX either. If the capsules don't work well in it, I'll be the first to write about it here and switch to the built-in storage.
No wrong answers, just wondering how you're looking to approach any successes/failures.
WhyWhyWhy?
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I sympathize with your experience. I wonder if it's just you who has a problem with the heater, or if the new heating chamber has such specifics.. Let's see what others write.
I hope my FwX will arrive to me in Europe without defects, because I will not be able to send it back ((
Thanks for the measurements! You've been very helpful. By the way, I think I've found an almost perfect capsule option for FwX. These are capsules for Hyperdyn: https://www.dynavap.com/products/dynavap-dosing-capsule-hyper-5-pack?_pos=3&_sid=0a5266454&_ss=r
I have one of them in my hands now and its height is only 9mm (Xmax flat 11mm, Xmax concave 10.5mm), it may even be located just below the top of the air inlet ports.It is the same diameter as Xmax + a few microns. And another advantage is that this capsule is cheaper than all the others.
I accidentally remembered about it now, it was bundled with Hyperdyn and was stuck in Hyperdyn. This is some kind of massive defect from the manufacturer...I contacted Vapcap and they sent me a Hyperdyn tip in which the capsule should not get stuck, but I put the capsule in a drawer and started using Xmax, which proved to be excellent in Hyperdyn. So for the record.
I agree about the increased battery consumption, but based on my extensive experience using capsules in different vaporizers, I will say that the thin metal shell around the flower creates an additional pleasant conductive effect.For example, I didn't like using mesh capsules in TM2. The all-metal ones seemed better. And this is with the same effect, with faster extraction in a mesh capsule (almost 2 times faster than an all-metal one)
I can already tell you that the capsule will work in FwX. The question is how well...And this is a subjective point. Just like now, I once asked a lot of questions about capsules in TM2 and saw a lot of opinions that capsules in tm2 are an absolute evil)) As a result of a long search, I tried 7 different types of capsules and chose capsules not from TinyMight (for certain reasons). I use capsules and I can't get enough of finding my own option. The capsules work amazingly, they always contain the same amount of flower, they do not bring clutter and always give the expected result. Contrary to the opinions I've read.
I do not know what effect the capsules will have in Fwx, if the result is unsatisfactory, then I will adapt to the built-in storage. But the problem here is that I fill the capsules using precise scales, and the ceramic chamber by eye. And here you can not guess the number and suffer. Plus, in general, it can provoke an increase in tolerance.
Despite my love of capsules, I am sure that baking in a ceramic chamber is the most delicious option. It's pointless to argue here.
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HighTime
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In this situation, if you keep an empty capsule handy, perhaps you could use your precise measuring method for your capsules and then pour your capsule full of measured herb into the ceramic chamber? It seems that would help you avoid the potentially inaccurate amount of herb you are concerned about.
WhyWhyWhy?
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Maybe. But I don't fill a full capsule, but either 0.02 or 0.04 grams... plus, the general convenience here is that I fill a large number of capsules once and no longer think about measurements and weighings. …
Trulukkyphrank
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Can anybody please share some more detailed pictures of the heater and the bowl setup? Where is the heating element?
zatonic
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I believe you would have to remove the 2 main screws to split the two halves of the body to expose the heating element.
Have any early adopters dared to split their X open yet? Not it!
Hot air rises when no other forces are acting on it... Unless it is a complete seal, its mostly gonna go down the sides. That's how fluids work when under suction, especially when they're not very viscous and easily compressible like air is.Apparently, you and I will not come to a common opinion)) Although you already partially agree that if the capsule fits tightly into the chamber, it will be difficult for the airflow to squeeze between the camera screens and the capsule))
I'll tell you one more thought - hot air rises up under the action of the laws of physics )) I.e. there will not necessarily be a downward movement. The air is not an apple that fell on Archimedes' head.
In general, additional air channels between the capsule wall and the chamber (grooves) can change the direction of air movement to the one described above - the air flow CAN go up in the grooves, enter through the capsule lid and exit through the bottom of the capsule into the glass stem.
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Mine arrived today as I was walking out the door for a music festival. Quickly ran a bowl through it. Not a fan of the rattle of the stem, and the oven door is stiff to close. Other than that, what feels like a much quicker heat up and a bit more open airflow (been a while since I've used a FW regularly and was in such a rush didn't think to check those two factors on my others before heading out), and it's the usual firewood experience that I've come to love. Dunno how to quantify it better than that.
Can answer questions tomorrow, but this thing isn't a mistep in the slightest. It's gonna sell like hotcakes.
Can answer questions tomorrow, but this thing isn't a mistep in the slightest. It's gonna sell like hotcakes.
I’m thinking the storage compartment piece will hold the stem snug, but I’m only speculating after looking over the instructions. I put a tiny o-ring on mine. It holds it snug.
See that's how short a time I got to spend with it, haven't even looked at the storage bit yet. That bowl took my head off though and was just bliss. Love a vape with wood in airpath and the fw is easily one of the best in the game, so I was super stoked to see that it looks like it's still the case.
I’d echo this 100%. Agreed on the rattle. But the fw9 had that too.
Otherwise it’s an awesome vape and is up there with the 7. Shares a lot of similarities. I do like how rhe 7 has the retractable stem.
But the X is great and much better than 8/9 IMO. Unless you need capsules.
lol. No. Also not it.
Yeah that doesn’t sound right. My first session either the X was on the lowest preset temp. I got good clouds and flavor and didn’t feel the need to go beyond.
The window is stupid handy for knowing when it's ready for the first hit. Does well with a full bowl or just covering the screen. My oven door has loosened up nicely. Loving the economics of the thing too.
Is there an on/off button combo? Already hit temp in my pocket couple of times...
Is there an on/off button combo? Already hit temp in my pocket couple of times...
Bonesvapechi
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just got the X, how do we change the temp, I heard there’s an unregulated mode?